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Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 2

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DaveCoaches · 23/02/2020 21:26

I wimped out of the other thread title I planned as I thought it might look goady.

But please let’s keep it as the reality-and-let's-avoid-idle-speculation-and-reliance-on-dodgy-sources thread (thanks Seneca!).

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LaurieMarlow · 01/03/2020 15:07

So true mummy

They almost need their PR people working out ‘what’s the worst spin the DM can put on this’ for all possible options and then choosing the least worst.

If she takes him, she’ll be accused of disrupting him/putting him in danger to make a point.

If she leaves him, she’s an uncaring mother, devastated great grandparents Hmm, keeping him from the people of the UK.

I wouldn’t blame her for giving up trying to please anyone.

Samcro · 01/03/2020 15:13

why is it about Meghan leaving/bringing the baby? Harry is also a parent.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/03/2020 15:19

Prince Charles is his grandfather

Hang on a sec - isn't it quite widely reported that Camilla (who barely lives with him anyway) sees her GC in the more homely comfort of Raymill so they don't rampage through his priceless antiques and his holistic garden? And didn't William say in some interview that they aimed for Charles to see more of their kids (when actually he could see them plenty if he chose)?

They'll all pose for the occasional happy snap if it's good PR, but frankly I'm not convinced Charles would be any more keen on goo-gooing over the GCs than his ma and pa

LaurieMarlow · 01/03/2020 15:20

It would be odd for Meghan not to bring Archie after she didn’t bring him in January either. Prince Charles is his grandfather.

Would it? I can see why she wouldn’t want to bring him commercial at the minute. She’ll be savaged if they go private.

Fair enough if there’s a risk of coronavirus but then the sensible thing would be for M to stay with him.

Just imagine what the DM et all would make of that. We told you she’d never be back and we were right. Can’t even be bothered to finish the contract. Disrespecting the Queen. And so on, and on.

Harry is also a parent.

Quite

DandyAF · 01/03/2020 15:20

@samcro that’ll be down to simple logistics and not sexism. It’s quite basic to grasp. Harry is already here and so cannot physically bring the baby unless he travels back to get him. Meghan is presumably currently with the baby and she to fly over, so she is the parent who will be bringing or not bringing him.

DandyAF · 01/03/2020 15:23

I’m not sure the DM would be able to have a field day if Meghan doesn’t come due to coronavirus risks to her or Archie. It would be a pragmatic decision and many people right now woukd respect it.

LaurieMarlow · 01/03/2020 15:25

It would be a pragmatic decision and many people right now woukd respect it.

Many people would.

I doubt that would include the editorship of the DM, who have never, as far as I can see, given her the benefit of the doubt over anything, ever.

DandyAF · 01/03/2020 15:28

I think it’s a ridiculous to speak in absolutes Laurie. We’re possibly days away from the govt advising not to travel unless urgent. If that were to happen or a similar recommendation was made in Canada, it wouldn’t be MM’s choice.

Mummy195 · 01/03/2020 15:36

Dandy

Both threads are about to finish. I am late in this game and just browsed through the threads. I did not realise that the other thread did not allow positives about MM.
Maybe next one should be called the opposite of this, like this who are unhappy about H&M / hate them/ MM bashing etc. instead of having an objective title like what's next, which can be interpreted anyway. Then people like me, can stay well away.

You also bash me on saying what they did in the past, when I am actually answering people who are referring to things they did in the past. Maybe reprimand those posters for bringing up things from the past.
Unfortunately, all the media scrutiny of H&M as well as the critics, also refer to W&K, so I also have to refer to them. It does not make sense to criticise H&M for the same things K&W do and then say, oh but we should not talk about K&W. Sorry it doesn't work like that. You criticise all equally.

DandyAF · 01/03/2020 15:45

I did not realise that the other thread did not allow positives about MM.

Eh? Confused I didn’t say that and it’s evidently not the case. There are positive posts on there.

I didn’t bash you. I made a suggestion. If you want to discuss it then do so in the other thread. It’s not relevant to this one.

LaurieMarlow · 01/03/2020 15:46

I think it’s a ridiculous to speak in absolutes Laurie.

I didn’t.

And obviously, if international travel advice changes, that would impact their position.

Equally obviously, I’m referencing the situation as it stands right now.

LaurieMarlow · 01/03/2020 15:47

I don’t see any problems with Mummy’s contribution to this thread. Anyone else?

Roussette · 01/03/2020 15:54

I've enjoyed them! I learnt some stuff.

LaurieMarlow · 01/03/2020 15:55

Yeah me too

Encyclo · 01/03/2020 15:57

Same. Welcome to the conversation Mummy.

ilovejeffgoldblum · 01/03/2020 15:57

I think dandy is referring to the posts mummy made on the other thread!

Mummy195 · 01/03/2020 16:02

Phew, as a sort of newbie here on these threads - I do browse when I have time and may have contributed now and again on some other MM threads. But I worried of putting my foot in it, and offending people about these links on MM, like I did on the other thread. So I am relieved that I can post about popular misconceptions of here on this thread, and that is welcome.

Thanks guys.

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Samcro · 01/03/2020 16:13

Had a look back over what @MUmmy195 said and can't see anything wrong.
Of course there will be comparisons between how W&K and H&M are treated by the media, it is relevant.

LaurieMarlow · 01/03/2020 16:14

but I’d bet they’re there.

I’ll believe that when you link one.

I’m happy to be proved wrong, but I don’t recall seeing one ever.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/03/2020 16:19

Call me a spoilsport, but on the endless will she/won't she thing, I'm not sure exactly what the point is in Meghan returning to the UK at all?
Rightly or wrongly it's pretty clear her interests lie elsewhere, so I don't quite see why she needs to attend ceremonies in support of organisations who may be unlikely even to see her in future

Granted there's the separation from Harry, but that was always likely to happen while he saw to a few remaining duties, and anyway they've managed a long distance relationship for a lot longer before

Overall I just wonder if it isn't time to stop the shilly-shallying and leave them to the consequences of their own choices

DandyAF · 01/03/2020 16:23

Laurie Fair enough! If and when I gave the time and inclination, I’ll have a look and get back to you.

Puzzled I agree.

drina27 · 01/03/2020 17:20

Overall I just wonder if it isn't time to stop the shilly-shallying and leave them to the consequences of their own choices
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Skierrdery · 01/03/2020 17:45

But they've left Archie in Canada. Why are you all wondering will she/won't she still?

meercat23 · 01/03/2020 17:50

Surely the whole will they bring hum wont they bring him comes down to how long their trip is? If they are coming for just a few days or a week or so then putting him through that long return journey in a short period might sound unnecessary. If they were coming for three months, leaving him for that long might sound unnecessary.

What is appropriate depends on the length and nature of the trip doesn't it? As far as I can see they are only coming for a week or so and, for me, it would be understandable if they decided to leave him with the nanny.

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