Harry and Meghan 19 (The One With The Capitalisation)

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Off we go.

I see the DM has collected comments from royal correspondents and biographers, and they are all quite scathing.

Do we have posters based in the US and Canada, what’s the media reporting there?

"While there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution, for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, a 12-month review period has been put in place."

I think this seems particularly petty because, as I had understood, the 12 month review period has been put in place for their benefit - to give them the option to return to being full time royals if it doesn't pan out.

It seems incredibly churlish to be complaining about that.

HMQ is indeed badass!

H&M are sounding more petulant by the day.

Other titled BUT LESS IMPORTANT OR RELEVANT members of the Royal Family. You can get your royal sweet cheeks that if those “other members” had included the Cambridges, they’d have been named.

Bet not get

Unless I'm mistaken then the other titled members weren't senior royals were they? Harry is still 6th in line to the throne (as they reminded us) and extremely high profile so of course it's got to be handled differently (if it has been handled differently of course).

I do find the 12 month review thing strange. Because I just don't see how any of what's happened so far can be reversed now.

I don't understand why they don't take their instagram down. It is full of really critical comments now. They just seem to be ploughing ahead despite really negative public reaction. They'd be better to keep a very low profile for some time and then relaunch when they've sorted themselves out .

Just seen 'Markle and Spencer' as a suggestion for their new brand name online!!

I know someone who worked for Prince Charles and by extension Prince William and Prince Harry and their view was that the boys were always a bit spoiled -understandably- as they were devastated by Diana's death and Charles indulged them so Harry (and this is my take) probably has pretty much gotten his way his whole life.
And people always deferring to him and kowtowing to him his whole life will give him a skewed view of his power and influence.
I also think Meghan egged him on and assumed his popularity would see them clear but popularity is a fickle thing and people feel badly used by the pair.
I think they are flabbergasted at the current state of things as it looks like they thought they would present Megxit as a fait accompli and everyone would clap and cheer and throw money at them...

Pelican we are being robbed, journos stealing jokes from these threads.

We demand royalties!

Thanks for the new thread.

I enjoy robert cramptons writing, thanks for share token :)

Well, well, well.

Have to say BG source(s) are pretty much spot on.

I don't think Charles is great at giving guidance or setting boundaries. I imagine there's a lot of guilt about the past and the effect Diana's death had on the boy's lives. HM does seem to have read the riot act to both boys at times by their own admission. Once she is gone there will be no-one to keep a firm hand on the rudder any longer. I think Charles will concentrate on William as the heir and leave Harry to go his own way. He obviously really liked Meghan in the early days but I guess he has a very different view now.

I assumed that the 12-month review was so that if it turns out that H&M are disrespecting the monarchy in any way, then they can subsequently have titles/funding revoked, rather than giving them everything they've demanded and then see them renege on the deal.

I do find the 12 month review thing strange. Because I just don't see how any of what's happened so far can be reversed now.

It seems to have yet another gesture on the part of the Queen probably to ensure the door to their return - or the prince’s return - was not firmly closed. Akin to a cooling off period, in a way.

...to have been yet another gesture...

What I’d like to know as other pp is when & how soon did the royals realise the two of them were up to no good...

I think (IMO) that the 12 month review was put there so that H can come back when it all goes tits up. TBH I cant see this marriage lasting, especially now the Royal bonus has been removed. That's not what M married for - she may loved/still loves him, but apart from being her baby's father he can't offer her much else.

Financially, she'd probably be better off doing a megabucks spillthebeanz to set her up for life. Then she can go her own way and not have these constraints put upon her.

Which leaves H in the lurch - but she's bolted before, she'll probably do it again.

I would desperately hope to be wrong and that they really love each other and are going to live a quiet, happy life, but it's not looking like that so far.

A few thoughts:

To be fair to Harry, he probably hasn’t had to ever be involved with the wording of press statements on a detailed level, One has Staff. It would make sense if he trusted Meghan on this, as she has had extensive social media & marketing experience. That’s not to say he didn’t approve the wording or should have known better of course.

The Palace announcing that the Queen’s lawyers were involved regarding the use of ‘royal’ is a very smart move, even if that legal involvement was minimal. It gives the Queen distance. It’s one thing accusing her of making racially-motivated decisions, it’s a step further to accuse a factual legal opinion on long-standing law of being racist.

Laying low for a few years would do the world of good for the public image of these two...the trouble is they want to be high profile, BUT on their terms only. Which doesn't really work for members of the RF.

Neither of H&M appear to understand the distinction between celebrity and royalty.

This whole affair is a monumental disaster. And it keeps getting worse. The damage it is doing to the Monarchy is breathtaking.

And we really don't need a constitutional crisis right now. We haven't even moved clear of Brexit yet. The instability this is causing at this time does not bode well; we are in the kind of climate that leads to significant upheaval later down the line. And these two are just adding to it.

I just keep wondering why no one is saying to them that they cannot bicker over rights granted by the goodwill of the British people while flaunting their privilege and disdain for ordinary folk.

I just played back their engagement interview. Interesting viewing in light of what has now transpired.
And the difference between Meghan then and in the Africa "not many people have asked me if I'm OK" one.
And they were both raving about the warm welcome into the family she'd received. There was a question about the negative attention she had got regarding her ethnicity and she said that it was disheartening that those attitudes were still out there in "the world," (not just racist old Britain).

Sorry - really should have proof-read that last post! Appalling grammar.

I am not sure it is doing damage to the monarchy now that the Queen has shown herself to be a badass.

But it is sad for PH I think. I think he desperately wanted a loving, more emotionally nourishing simpler life, and instead somehow a nuclear bomb has gone off in his life instead. It is going to separate him from his family and friends, everything that gave his lfie some sort of meaning.

Neither of H&M appear to understand the distinction between celebrity and royalty I think this is at the root of everything that has happened.

They do not seem to understand that the privilege of royalty comes along with not just a set of responsibilities but also an extensive and long established protocol about how to behave in every situation.

Also as a celebrity, the most popular wins. As a Royal there is an unbreakable hierarchy.