Harry and Meghan 19 (The One With The Capitalisation)

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Off we go.

Interesting that Tom Bower, PC's biographer, said we're now seeing M's true nature and motives.

Peridito, I think it is good that they won’t use the royal name. They want to do things their own way and make their own living. I genuinely wish them well. I do think that they have been badly advised in terms of what they can and cannot do and what they should and shouldn’t communicate publicly and when. Hopefully they will learn.

In terms of what they do, I don’t think the royal family should be associated with banks like JP Morgan which was at the forefront of the subprime mortgage and CLO collateralization and the subsequent sub prime crisis. I have no idea if the Goldman Sach rumours are true, but Goldman was the bank which put on the derivative which helped cook the books for the Greek government and almost resulted in Greece being kicked out of the Euro. The Greeks are still suffering badly from the fall out.

As private individuals, I see no harm at all in them working with those banks for philanthropic reasons and of course they can both make money from it and raise money from charities.

The Royal family as an institution needs to be much more careful with its associations or they will endanger the entire monarchy (I know, Prince Andrew, etc, but the more reason to be very careful)

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Nope.

I’m not clear on how them actively not using HRH but still formally being HRH will work on practice.

So sure they may not refer to themselves as HRH. But if anyone refers them to that in writing or when introducing them, will they be corrected when it’s technically correct?

apple.news/AZogbZZH9QJ27900bHpxLBA
Hidden dig at Eugenie and Beatrice?

https://apple.news/AllxLmZ-QE-fCCrr_oUkxJA

Sorry above link says m will have low key role in pb wedding!

Basically I think it’s a legalease loophole.
They won’t use the HRH, but can’t stop others from using it and would look churlish if they corrected people.

Observer article on Sussexes anger at Palace over the ban on the use of the word Royal.

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/23/harry-meghan-anger-palace-losing-royal-branding

but I'm not sure how they could shut all their media down when their entire brand seems to depend on it

Agree, I’m not sure how they fix it either, all I can think is they do a shit ton of charity work, stop making ludicrous statements, and focus heavily and solely on the charity work, with lots of pics of them doing family shit with Archie. A concentrated pr effort of charity and Archie until it turns round could do it,

The issue is the first paid gig they have, is going to blow it apart.,her pud acting, or him speeches, especially if he talks about his royal life. Then they are back in the trenches,

No one is going to pay a million bucks to hear him talk about setting up a charity, or how he loves being a dad, for that kinda money he needs to dish.

In addition they need to tread carefully in their personal life. Private jets, stays at famous people’s homes etc is going to see them under attack.

They loose the media protection they have when they stop being royal in the spring. After that it’s gloves off, and what they are seeing now will seem gentle in comparison to the arena they are entering. Every single inch of their lives, every time they cough or fart, it’s going to be in the media and it’s going to be analysed in a way that takes their breath away.

And agree their statement was aimed at the over seas market, hence their comment on the queen not having jurisdiction over seas. They have failed to take into account the Queen is popular in the states, but more than that, people every where, irrelevant of geography tend to have morals, and dislike over exaggerated entitlement and self importance.

They also seem to have forgotten that they are, at this moment, living in Canada, where, you know, the Queen is our Head of State. "Royal" means something here. (Although it is also the name of the cab company I usually use. )

I saw an article in the Times online- I'm sorry I don't know how to link - saying that people who volunteered on building the Invictus games are angry with Harry. They say before he left the country he neither thanked them or reassured them about his commitment to the charity.

Perhaps they need to stop branding themselves and just get jobs like normal people.

And where and what are they trading on the name ? What have they earnt trading on the name ?

What are they going to be able to do to earn a living and support themselves that doesn't involve trading on the name and status of being royal? Meghan does have an option and a profession to return to, if she chooses. She earned her recognition fair and square as an actress before meeting Harry. What can Harry do? Virtually nothing, at a high earning level at least, that won't be offered to him because of his royal status. He wasn't asked to the J P Morgan event because he was a financial whizz.

Agree,,Meghan had a trade and was a relatively successful actress before she married. Not a list, for sure, but definite b list.

Harry has nothing, as pp said, he wasn’t paid a million bucks to speak at the jp Morgan event because of any other reason than his royal back ground. Even Meghan wouldn’t have commanded that sort of money pre marriage.

She wouldn’t even have had the head of Disney return her calls, she’d have had to audition like other actresses, and go through normal process. Now because of the royal connection her husband can pitch her directly for a job.

And successfully it seems too. Yes she’s rumoured to be giving the fee to charity, but that was only because at that time they were still royal and prohibited from earning. Next time she will pocket it.

That’s trading on your royal name all day long.

They loose the media protection they have when they stop being royal in the spring. After that it’s gloves off, and what they are seeing now will seem gentle in comparison to the arena they are entering. Every single inch of their lives, every time they cough or fart, it’s going to be in the media and it’s going to be analysed in a way that takes their breath away.

Which is why it was gracious of the Queen to allow them a way back in after a year review.

Meghan wasn’t B List, probably C List. TV and movies are hierarchical. A List is usually used for who’s starred in movies or been the lead actress of at least one tv series, like the lead in the Handmaiden’s Tale. I think someone like Ellen Pompeo would be seen as B List, as she’s led her TV shoes for over 10 years but doesn’t have any major credits in any other tv series or films.

Suits was MM’s big break, she didn’t have many guest starring roles on other tv shows, more small supporting guest roles with one or two lines.

I think she’d find it hard to get back into actor. She’s now got A+ name recognition but not the acting chops or credits. If she was hired, it would look like that had happened because of her name. And as Prince Harry’s wife, she probably wouldn’t want the same casting she had before, which was hot girl who showed a leg or a bra strap or two.

What I can see her doing, and being good at, is a talk show host, something semi serious. That would utilise her being A Personality. Or running a lifestyle brand, as she was gearing up to do with The Tig.

What can Harry do? Virtually nothing, at a high earning level at least, that won't be offered to him because of his royal status. He wasn't asked to the J P Morgan event because he was a financial whizz.

Take the route of his uncle? Professional fixer upper. Interested in A? Need permission for B? I'll provide access to this highly useful person in exchange for £££ as I know them from my Royal days and still have their ear.

What I can see her doing, and being good at, is a talk show host, oh for god's sake, Dandy, don't give them any ideas

Yehdivvy
from the Guardian link you posted

Posts on the couple’s official website suggest they are angry at the way

Suggest I'm sorry but this statement

While there is not any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word ‘Royal’ overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020

does not suggest anger to me ..

Take the route of his uncle? Professional fixer upper. Interested in A? Need permission for B? I'll provide access to this highly useful person in exchange for £££ as I know them from my Royal days and still have their ear. That's quite shady, behind the scenes, business though, Catherine, and doesn't fulfil the need for fame and adoration and I think he also has a thirst for.

And the possibility for dirt being dug up on that line of work is huge

I agree that she would excel at another hyped up version of The Tig. I have to hand it to her that that blog was very professionally organised and put together, and she has certainly picked up a lot more lifestyle and travel tips since marrying into the RF.

annie yeah, sorry about that