Harry and Meghan 19 (The One With The Capitalisation)

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Off we go.

And the incessant bloody hand-holding!!!! They can't leave each other alone, even when sitting down.

This

*I wouldn’t like to see them be booed (although they arguably deserve it)

I think a dignified silence would be appropriate.*

Or no joe public turns up to “see them” “support them” or whatever you call it. Even the hardened royalists ie those that sit on a damp pavement for a couple of days before an event

You click on the pic and the comments are underneath.

HMQ is not just the Queen of England. And the Commonwealth has 53 member states. That's a lot of potentially pissed off people all over the world - including Canada.

Bluntness could you please post a link to the instagram account ? Pretty please , for idiots like me

Eeee. I can’t get excited at the bump holding. I hold my bump incessantly.

And I’m not advertising or signalling my cargo.

I have a fat bump and it is only truly massive when I need a wee. And my hand goes to it in a protective manner because if anyone knocks it there could well be an accident.

www.instagram.com/sussexroyal/?hl=en

I don’t care about the bump holding thing either. It’s a petty criticism compared to the legitimate, factual and impartial reasons there now are to criticise them.

I still don't understand what H&M have done that is so wrong that some people think they deserve to be publicly booed .

All this guff about disrespecting the Queen -they wanted to carry on supporting her but withdraw from being full time Royals .Which in my book does not equate to cherry picking events and horror of horrors being half in half out

They want to become financially independent - why is that motive translated into being money grabbing ?

Their update on their website is perfectly factual ,they are giving information
While there is not any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word ‘Royal’ overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020.

It's not petulant or arrogant .Unless you're determined to view it that way .

Intepretations ( mine as well ) do not equal facts .

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www.instagram.com/sussexroyal/?hl=en

The negativity, and it’s now up to 21k comments on their Bon jovi image, thirty five thousand on the one before, which is her vogue thing, is all about their statement, not what they are posting.

The negativity seems to be on two things, people feel they should not be airing their arguments to the public like this, to keep their dirty laundry private, not put it all over their website, and there is a deep dislike of them having a go at the queen, it’s being perceived as deeply distasteful.

People are telling them to remove the statement from their website, to have a bit of class, and basically asking who they think they are to have a go at the queen like this.

The queen is really popular, whether you’re a royalist or not, and it seems people globally don’t take well to the idea of them trying to publicly put her in her place.

There is little positivity on there, next to none, from what I can see. It’s just thousands and thousands of people posting saying this isn’t ok.

Oh blimey now we're back to being outraged by hand holding and bump cradling !

Thanks for the summary, Bluntness - lots here ( me included) don’t have an account.

Interesting that most comments are about the statement.

I’m a bit of an auld duffer and am not on any social media things.

But if the waft of negativity is for the reasons bluntness states then I can’t help but agree.

I don’t think Meghan will be setting foot in the UK. They used the press treatment of her as a reason to leave the country so now that they’ve opened themselves up to much wider criticism, I can’t see her returning.

Harry will but he’ll do his petulant ‘don’t want to be here but gan gan is making me’ whilst sticking out his bottom lip thing.

I do wonder if all of this is intentional now. Keep building the criticism, increasing the sympathy from their fans and giving them more fuel to do things like tell all interviews and books.

Actually looking at their previous posts, the back lash is enormous. People posting saying how can you take money from a bank and talk about your dead mother,, about how they want the privilege without the work associated with it, asking just how much money are they taking from Charles and the duchy of Cornwall, when will they pay for their own security, as well as what I said previously, people telling them to remove their statement and have a little class, and being upset by them putting the queen in her place publicly.

I honestly think they either have to shut all their media platforms down, or issue some form of statement to try to bring themselves back. Right now it’s shit storm of epic proportions. They are having comments deleted, the ones with the most likes,, but they can’t go quick enough,

This isn’t a few trolls, this is hundreds of thousands of people all saying the same thing,

It’s such an utter mess.

@Bluntness100

If you ever need a new username, CommonSense 100 might be a good one. Your contributions are always very helpful.

Bluntness

I have an HR background and the wording about their employees was one of the main things I was thinking of when I said the statement was me me me.

How difficult would it have been to do both? Say it was saddening for them but also add a line saying something like:

“we want to take this opportunity to thank them for their dedicated work and support; they have been a highly valued part of our working Royal life and we wish them every success and happiness going forward.”

Could even cut it down to 2 lines. Hardly much in such a long statement.

Peridito - I am quite surprised you don't find that bit of their statement you quoted even slightly passive aggressive. There was no just need to say anything more than 'we won't use royal' - they didn't need to get into the legalities - it just looks petty. And that is not a good look for anyone.

I hope they are not booed on/if ever they return. In this debacle, they have shown precious little dignity. Onlookers should demonstrate to them that can behave better.

I want Ann widdecombe to give me the euromillions numbers for next week as she called this all ages ago.

As did many many others. On this site people were regularly castigated (aka abused) for doing so. But we have been proven right.

I remember way, way back on these threads when we said we'd not bother to start another thread until something happened, if something even happened as it had all gone quiet...

I wonder what those who firmly believed that Harkle had disappeared into gentle obscurity to raise their child in Canada think of all this now.

Personally I can't wait till William gets the bit between his teeth. I feel like he will have very little patience for these antics.

The tide has turned, and it was absolutely The Statement that was the tipping point

I thought the infamous "Africa interviews" were the tipping point myself, but you're quite right about the tide having turned. Looking on the bright side, at least we don't have to listen to "you only criticise because you're racist" or "they've done nothing the rest of them don't do" any more. Sadly there are always some racist idiots about, but it's very clear that this whole thing's no longer about racial heritage

To bring in another point about American positivity - a quality I admire them greatly for, though like anything it can be overdone - I wonder what response Harry will get if he dares to mention that this endless self-absorption perhaps isn't the only way of doing things. Hard not to think it could hasten his becoming just another cast-off ...

I’ve just thought, the parts of the statement that go into the legalities, as mrsc says - I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re practically cut and pasted from a letter of legal advice.

Because a lot of it reads like the sort of thing I’d get from lawyers.

Stating out the facts: “the Queen has said this and this, including that you remain a valued part of her family, so she needs to be able to show that in practice.”

“Yes you can’t use royal in the uk without HMQ’s consent but she doesn’t have international jurisdiction over that word” etc.

“The Duke remains of course 6th in line to the throne.”

Etc.

The sort of stuff, even that which seems like stating the obvious, is stuff that is common in a letter of advice from lawyers summarising the statement. But not appropriate in a statement from The Duke And Duchess themselves.

It's not petulant or arrogant .Unless you're determined to view it that way

Intepretations ( mine as well ) do not equal facts

But by your own logic there, this could also read:

It's not petulant or arrogant if you're determined not to view it that way .

Intepretations ( mine as well ) do not equal facts .

What many people - not all, of course - see as objectionable is wanting to be 'financially independent' but

A) requiring lots of Charles's money in the meantime and for the foreseeable future in order to maintain the lifestyle they want . Normal people have to accept a cut in their income and lifestyle if they find the lifestyle that their family / current job allows unacceptable.

B) apparently planning to achieve this 'financial independence' by trading on precisely the royal name, status and connections that they claim to find so objectionable. If it's so awful, why not drop back to being Meghan Markle, working actress, and Harry Wales, soldier and/or campaigner for veterans? To be honest, I would willingly accept paying their security costs if they intended to work honestly and on their own merits to earn an independent living. I don't think that's their plan.

As did many many others. On this site people were regularly castigated (aka abused) for doing so. But we have been proven right

Well we weren't even allowed to say it without it being deleted as racist, unsupportive and finally "just jealous!"