Harry and Meghan 19 (The One With The Capitalisation)

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Off we go.

I don’t think they will be booed. They deserve it but I hope they aren’t.

I think it's just as likely Harry could be booed!

Yup. And then the spin will be that it’s because the racists view him as a race traitor (or some such twaddle).

I actually think there’ll only be 1 or 2 vocal dissenters in the whole crowd.

It’s Weird, their statement says there is. Precedent in the royal family, apparently referencing Beatrice and Eugenie, who keep their titles and work and earn money,

But there is a huge difference between getting a full time job, ie working in an art gallery, prob not earning hugely, and doing what this pair wanted to do, use the royal brand to earn millions.

There is no precedent for that. I’m sure if they wished to go work in an art gallery the queen would tell them to crack on.

Yes can ,,it would only make the UK look bad and garner sympathy for them abroad. A dignified silence is more in keeping with the usual UK way!.
I'd rather they just stayed away to be honest ,coming back seems forced when we know they'd rather be elsewhere!

Bluntness, yes I find that odd ! As far as I can tell , it doesn't apply to senior royals only those on the fringes. I could be wrong here but I'm sure I'm not

The tide has turned, and it was absolutely The Statement that was the tipping point.

The contempt for their actions is no longer confined to the tabloids.

The BBC has criticised them.

The Telegraph criticised them yesterday in several pieces.

The Times Invictus piece is quietly but powerfully damning. It has quotes from longterm Invictus volunteers saying that Harry made the announcement he was leaving without any word to the organisers and volunteers about it. He gave them no reassurance about his future commitment or thanks.

Meanwhile on Instagram, the negative comments are plentiful and mocking.

Their own words have made them a laughing stock. Not racism (although that was undoubtedly a factor before), or misogyny. Whatever filter of perception you read that statement through, it is surely hard not to miss the bitter undertone and the complete lack of focus on thanking others for support, reassurance about paying Frogmore renovations back, and specific details about how they planned to stay committed in practice to their patronages. It was all about what they hadn’t got and what they were entitled to, very me me me.

Them being a laughing stock is going to be detrimental to their support from A-listers. Unless those A-listers are really only concerned with making money through the interest in seeing what Harry and Meghan get up to.

I feel let down by them, as I had such high hopes for what the two of them, particularly with Meghan being bi-racial, could bring to the monarchy and country.
But I sincerely hope they will not be booed when they visit (if she comes), as I fear what that would do to their already fragile mental health. Yes, they seem to be behaving petulantly, but that doesn't mean they're not also suffering behind the scenes.
I wonder if the Palace will engineer it so that there are limited opportunities for the public to be close enough to let their discontent show.

The pair of them have the hide of rhinos so I don't think they'll be bothered about what the lowly general public think. They have to keep coming back and showing up at royal things to keep the royal thing going. They need more "pomp" Instagram stuff; can't keep trotting out a wedding photo in a carriage for ever.

I love yes, I think you’re right too.

And agree on the me me me statement,

They told us how they told the staff personally and how hard it was for them. At no stage did they say in that statement, that they wished to thank the staff for their expertise and the fantastic job they did for them, how they will miss them etc, nothing about the staff, just how hard it was for them to have to tell them personally.

When we have had a redundancy at work, we thank the person for their years of service etc, make it about them. I’ve never seen a statement before where the employer says “that was really hard for me” and doesn’t refer to the staff at all.

I hate to say it but I can imagine Harry heading towards a nervous breakdown over this. They can't fail to see how they are now being perceived.

That said, booing is a very piercing sound. One person doing so can be heard amongst many more cheering. But surely the negative comments online must be as hurtful and damaging to them.
I wonder if they're aware of what organisations such as The Times and Telegraph and Invictus are saying too. When they write, "thank you for all the support," is that a face-saving thing?
Are we an echo-chamber on this thread? The other thread seemed to have more people on it saying 'good luck to them.'

I wonder what their supporters are thinking? I’m sure they do have some though probably less than they did but surely even their supporters must be appalled by how grabby they are appearing.

I used to work for a family firm. My family member was the boss. In the work place he wasn’t my uncle, he was my boss! And I was treated as an employee.

HM is his boss as well as grandmother but in this situation she has to be the boss & preserve the firm not the individual.

I don’t think they will be booed. They deserve it but I hope they aren’t. They've already been booed.
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They may be suffering behind the battle lines but those wounds would have started healing on their departure.

If they want to pick their scabs as well as carrying on inflicting more damage on themselves then that’s their look out.

I suspect they know also, that’s why the leaked that the global charities were being set up, so people would see them in a better light and not think it was all about cashing in.

They are clearly focusing on the states right now, so would be interesting to see how the reaction develops there to their behaviour.

Things like Instagram, their websites, are all global platforms, the comments will be visibly globally, so there will be no hiding the negativity.

Angelina I think at the start there was more sympathy for them. But that seems to be evaporating. It's really a stretch to read their latest statements and conclude what they really wanted was a quiet royal free and simple life. Even liberal mined US media sources who published on the racism angle extensively have pulled back.

I hate to say it but I can imagine Harry heading towards a nervous breakdown over this.
Exactly. He has made it fairly clear that he has suffered with his mental health quite badly over the years. We don't know, nor should we, exactly what that means.
I initially thought, when they said they were taking a 6-week break, that it pretty much meant he'd (they'd??) been signed off on medical grounds. Now it seems that it was the start of the divorce from the Royal Family and the UK and it appears they've been using that time (and many months before that too, apparently) to further their plans for the future. But it doesn't mean he wasn't unwell too.
I don't get why, if they crave peace and an escape from the terribly intrusive British tabloid media, why they're not keeping a low profile. Or rather, I do get it - they need to keep their profile out there, in order to maximise opportunities. Do they think we're stupid?

I don't get why, if they crave peace and an escape from the terribly intrusive British tabloid media, why they're not keeping a low profile. Or rather, I do get it - they need to keep their profile out there, in order to maximise opportunities. Do they think we're stupid?

That's the conundrum. And yes, they probably do did

I’ve just looked at their insta, it’s thousands and thousands of comments, one after the other, all negative, they are having some deleted, but it’s an avalanche. And again, it’s global, not just the Uk,

What a mess.

I'm not on Instagram, or Facebook or much else! , I find that interesting, how could they judge a country so wrongly?

@derxa That maybe Boom you're hearing in that clip rather than Boo. Boom is good. Boo is bad but sounds similar. It has been a cause for consternation for performers etc at concerts wondering why they are being booed, before it is explained that it's not booing and a compliment.

Could be wrong but I think it's more likely to be this than booing.

What I can also see in the clip is a reminder of the deliberate and very affected baby bump clasping fgs....

I can’t hear it clearly enough to decide. But ole H looked positively pained or quietly fuming. Would ge not be more accepting of a Boom?

Yes. Was she ever capable of standing up without clasping her baby bump like that?

Bonkers and very affected.

When I click on their Insta I can only see pictures. How do you get to the written posts?

If you want to know what African American women think of the racism issue, read the MM threads on Lipstick Alley. Over 3/4 of its posters are AA. They point out that MM has always surrounded herself with white people, not AA.

I’m not certain that’s fair, as MM does identify as biracial. But, they largely dismiss charges of racism.

On media, I have read that Harry reads press articles and comments about him, and in the past, was upset with negative press.