Harry and Meghan (15)

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No harm in having it ready for the next event/announcement...

Here:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1757448.stm

Rocking, Harry has discussed his mental health in the public before. I’m not speculating... it’s in the public record, and is fair use.
I don’t claim to be a HCP, so can’t diagnose anyone.

I never said that Harry received treatment for smoking pot, LaMarchallin, just that he was brought to a rehab centre and afaik did some group work with the addicts there.

I don’t think it’s harmful to discuss mental health problems. Churchill also had depression- there nothing to be ashamed by saying you’re ill.
If you had a broken leg you wouldn’t feel the need to hide it or keep it a secret.

Many x service personnel have PTSD. It’s a fact of life in the services, and affects many many veterans and those caught up in conflicts today.

Harry has been vocal about his mental health and the toll his mother’s sudden and violent death, and public life has taken on him (and his brother) (So much so the Queen told them to stop talking about it{which I don’t agree with}).

Again, I don’t think it’s harmful to talk about mental health issues. I think it frightens a lot of people, and that’s ok, but not enough of a reason to stop talking about it.

Breaking news, I just saw this on the tube:

Clearly things have got so bad for Harry he’s been forced to resort to being a tradesperson and advertising on the underground

Where you off to, Dandy? Somewhere fancy's
Never thought I’d say this, but I miss London.

I never said that Harry received treatment for smoking pot, LaMarchallin, just that he was brought to a rehab centre and afaik did some group work with the addicts there.

Well, you did say he "had" to go.
I suppose being told by his father he should go and be educated counts as an imperative.

Seriously, he can't have done much "group work" with the people being treated there in the "couple of hours" the chief executive said he spent there.

Again, I don’t think it’s harmful to talk about mental health issues. I think it frightens a lot of people, and that’s ok, but not enough of a reason to stop talking about it.

No, but this isn't a mental health thread and I think it's intrusive and harmful to speculate about anybody's mental health above and beyond what they themselves have said about it.

However, as I've said before, there are a lot of would-be psychologists and psychiatrists on MN.

He didn't do group work or go to rehab himself. He was taken on a visit. A very different thing.

I say A common criticism in these threads for example is that Meghan has said that she hates England and this seems to be accep[ted as a fact .Another is that H&M wanted to cherry pick which events they would attend as representatives of the Queen .

and provide examples (you're right not all of them good examples and aplogies to those who feel misquoted )

and then follows many accusations that I am stirring
and stuff like this
Yet now you’re back, inaccurately accusing people of emotively exaggerating and stating certain views as facts

It's not me that's stirring .I've said very little compared to all the posts about my comment .
Right ,off you all go again .....

I don't "feel" misquoted.

My quote was picked out and used to prove some point it was irrelevant to. It was also made to look as if I were myself misquoting the Sussexes or lying.

I am not impressed.

@peridito please can we all agree that we only quote and judge posts that have been made on this thread. Doing that would have cut down a lot of back and forth.

Speaking personally, (1) I’m not going to argue again and (2) I don’t agree with Coffee’s views in her last few posts but I respect her right to hold them.

@7Worfs The Serpentine Gallery for some culture and park life!

Felicity I don't understand your point, the quote I used

The painting a whole nation as hateful is not rational though

was the only sentence in your post ,it was the entire post .

I have no idea where you are getting the idea It was also made to look as if I were myself misquoting the Sussexes or lying

I used it as an example that on these threads ( I didn't realise that it was considered bad form to refer back to previous threads )it is a common crticism that Meghan has said she hates England ..

If you were suggesting that the painting a whole nation is hateful was done by someone other than Meghan I apologise for not understanding .

I am not making out that you are lying or that you are missquoting the Sussexes .

oh FFS! Do you (the plural you) want to talk about what we think the Sussexes have done/are doing/might do? With all the associated issues around that...

Or do you (the plural you) want to nitpick, post posts from 11 billion threads back, and police perfectly normal people having an online conversation just because you don't like the tone or the content?

Dandy sorry cross posted .

Yes we can agree that .

I've been following these threads and it seemed natural to me to view them as a whole ,especially when trying to explain how I've formed an opinion .

But yes I guess each thread can be taken as just standing on it's own ,there must be posters only just popping on to them ,unaware of anything that has gone before .

And of course we can leave it there - I did suggest that many posts ago .

yolo I agree with your post above .Regarding the scrolling back ,have some pity for me the pedant rising to the bait when asked "where? "

also ( and I;m resisting scrolling back to find it ) but I do recall someone getting ticked off because they said they weren't going to scroll back and provide examples . IIR something along the lines of "well you can't be very interested then can you if you're not prepared to find examples "was said .

But happier ,calmer times now I think ,and your interjection is timely and to the point .

well thank you peridito! (sorry that sounds snarky, but not meant to be!)

Now you have it peridito.

Other posters around that time had said UK is "hateful" place "don't blame them" etc.
I thought / think it is good to remember most people wish them well.

Painting groups, nations, (a few random posters drawn in by a resonant topic!) into a homogenous whole isn't positive I'm sure we can agree!

It’s the BAFTAs tonight. William is The President or whatever it is. He is apparently unhappy about the lack of diversity in the nominations. We’ll see if M&H do an Instagram post tonight

If my memory serves me rightly, Harry did have to go to the rehab centre, and was ordered by Charles. He also had to sit in a group session with other drug users, and listen to their experiences.

Whether he was officially there as a “drug user” on a programme, or whether Charles used the addicts’ group as a some kind of cautionary tale to an impressionable caught-red-handed teen is a moot point, and IMO doesn't paint Charles in a good light.

It is proven than drug use in teens and especially the use of cannabis increases the risk of mental health issues later on.

In no way is talking about mental health on this thread disrespectful to the posters on the mental health threads, LaMarchalline.. it’s completely pertinent to the discussion, and information on Harry’s mental health is in the public sphere. I fail to see what the correlation is, unless you just want to control what other people post, and where.

Can I remind you that these threads are unmoderated, that there are no thread police, and, if you have objection to anything that any poster has to say, report it if you think it’s breaking the talk guidelines.

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And this also!

We all saw the LA move coming, Canada was only ever a base to test the waters until they found somewhere to buy amongst the Hollywood celebs. Probably coinciding with the end of their ‘transition period’.

I wonder if he will need to jump through the usual hoops to get his green card (or do a Trump and claim a unique talent).

Yes as Canada is part of the Commonwealth it is an easier “sell”. But ultimately a stepping stone to LA imo. I’m guessing the reasons they’ll give are:

• being closer to her mother so they have family around them
• having enjoyed the much-needed isolation in Canada and now recuperated, they are ready to be part of a community and live in a city
• easier and less costly security-wise
• closer to business contacts for their Foundation
• better placed for Archie’s education long-term

From the Sun article:
They are getting their ducks in a row

Perhaps they do take some advice from MN...

Ha LaMa They’ve LTRBs