Harry & Meghan 14

[yolofish]

A thread for those who wish to discuss what's in the news and what your take on it is.

"don’t see why H&M couldn't be entirely financially independent immediately"

If you've be in service to a firm all your life you should get a settlement. Especially when it's a job he never applied for.

"20 million was spent on a wedding and soon after the bride decides its not for her to live in UK"

I agree that's outrageous for a wedding! I'm not a royalist and wouldn't want to spend that on any royal wedding. But it's pretty standard. If they wanted to step back but the wedding had only cost 10 million would that have been ok? 5 million? £20,000? I don't think the cost of your wedding means you should be fair game for attacks from the press, or from some posters on threads like these.

Harry Sussex with no title, job or old friends and family does not sound like a happy prospect.

@Poppyfields21 Sun 26-Jan-20 09:27:28
Peridito applies to everyone so it’s fine to disagree with statements but disagreements surely also have to be fully referenced to reputable sources if suggesting an alternative

is that in response to this

peridito Sun 26-Jan-20 09:24:04
And a big shout out to those posters who are now able to say that what they are posting is only an opinion .Only their opinion .???

rockingchaircandle

Is Meghan's mum a public figure?
I'd consider her to be a private citizen, just as I'd consider Kate Middleton's parents to be private citizens.

I am using the @poster to attract the posters attention .I don't always but am doing so now because the posts in question were some time ago and I have noticed on MN that ppl can't scroll back .I have never been on a thread where the use is considered rude and it is not my intention to be so .

Back to RL and trains buses and planes .Might cattch up later if I'm still functioning !

Roussette he's been away from Britain since Thanksgiving .....his holiday is over. The reality will be hitting him now.

rockingchaircandle

If you've be in service to a firm all your life you should get a settlement. Especially when it's a job he never applied for.
So he applied to reduce his hours at his firm to part-time and was turned down. If he's taking redundancy let him be paid Redundancy pay in the same way that other employees of the RF would receive. How many weeks pay would he be entitled to? He hasn't always worked for the RF. He did about 10 years in the military so surely shouldn't get much for his few years royal work?

I don't think royal weddings should be funded by the tax payer at all (but that's another story so I'll just leave my comment there). Maybe the security on the day but not the actual wedding.

apple.news/AzxL99GlLSRSGicSCL4Um6g apple.
If this is true it puts a new slant on things!
Headline in the sun
Says queen offered mm ph quite life without titles before the wedding!

"When you’ve seen a bit of life and people and observed and experienced a variety of relationships, you get a gut feeling about things"

This is strange as it seems to imply that academics and or, posters who disagree with you or use evidence haven't got life experience. Relying on that gut feeling can be dangerous though. It's interesting to me why and how people form opinions.

I was actually going back to copy this quote, from when I asked what Andrews shenanigans were "Well, taking favours from rich, well connected people." He's a man who has very serious sexual crimes alleged against him. Anything M&H have done does not compare. If you want to imply they are taking favours from rich people, you should make that point and leave out the Andrew comparison.

NotEverything the difference between Kate’s mum and Meghan’s mum is that Kate has never brought Carole on any of her official duties.

Wow! If that Apple article is true, I can't even!

I know!
I feel quite cross hope it's not true!

ilovejeffgoldblum
That would really put the cat among the pigeons.

Says queen offered mm ph quiet life without titles before the wedding!

Yes there is a precedent for this.
Princess Madeleine of Sweden’s husband Chris O’Neill refused a title so he could continue working in finance.

But being without the title would not have been part of Meghan’s alleged plan
Harry is not rich by billionaire standards. The title was the most valuable bit.

I know not , but really I does seem to follow a certain narrative about mm intentions and goals.

I wonder how long before a book of this is published.
Lady Colin Campbell and Alastair Morton must be furiously typing away and interviewing anyone who will talk.

"If you've be in service to a firm all your life you should get a settlement. Especially when it's a job he never applied for."

So he applied to reduce his hours at his firm to part-time and was turned down. If he's taking redundancy let him be paid Redundancy pay

Well exactly, I was replying to a question asking why they should be entitled to any money at all. (It's hard without being able to name people, I might have to do it again for clarity, not bully!)

But the metaphor does break down, and I think that shows why the idea of a settlement and how much is so contentious. He's worked for this 'firm' his whole life. He had no say about joining. He's never been trained for anything else useful because of this job. This job has left him and his family needing security for the rest of his life. So it's not really just a job, he wouldn't just deserve normal redundancy.

It's very sad really, but it's the institution not H&M who are to blame.

CurlyWurlyTwirly , don't think I could take a book! , don't know why I'm so irritated by it all really . A whole book would finish me off!

It is quite interesting (despite being speculative) to think of the difficulties in "stepping back" in terms of the wider compensation culture.

Interesting perspectives come from different posters. So Thank you to all.

I agree Kate's and Meghan's mum's are private citizens

People get lots of transferable skills in the armed forces. Also did H not get hugely specialised training to fly helicopters?

Lucky lad.

Hi all 👋

Been busy at work.

But you are all here still and all ok I trust?

Have seen the upstaging this week ...

*his job has left him and his family needing security for the rest of his life. So it's not really just a job, he wouldn't just deserve normal redundancy.

It's very sad really, but it's the institution not H&M who are to blame.
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How you can say this! His life has been one of privilege and splender . He has no idea how the other half live , going without food , electricity and heating. His lifestyle comes with rules (quite rightly!) . He can't have his cake and eat it!

That article is very interesting. Especially the bit about working on suits for seven years and being ready for a new challenge rings very true doesn't it? And that new challenge would have been a HUGE step up.

I have no concern whatsoever with them having stepped back and leaving but I cannot help thinking that the reasons given and the dramatic way it's been done and the reasons given - "racism", "press intrusion", "uk people didn't support me" is manipulation on a massive scale.

The thing is everything Meghan does is actually what many people would do. Leave a job for a new, much better one, get excited about it and brush aside warnings. Find it's not what you thought it would be and wish to extricate yourself so perhaps exaggerate the negativity so you don't look flaky to those who warned you and to maximise your chances of getting something better. Look for a better job, you're more suited to and take steps to achieve it. This is all perfectly normal behaviour IMO but don't label and cast aspersions so publicly on the people and country who welcomed you and financed you. I think the U.K. is collateral damage for her. She knows the things she's said are not true but we don't mean anything to her and her eye is on the prize of fame and wealth in the US and the rest of the world we are flailing in general as a country at the minute so she can afford to kick us in the teeth.

IMO.