Harry & Meghan 14

[yolofish]

A thread for those who wish to discuss what's in the news and what your take on it is.

"Wtf will you do if nothing happens"

Be very pleased. If they bought some sort of estate in Canada, brought up DC in the great outdoors, did some charitable work in Africa, with veterans and with something like girls education worldwide, and popped over to Britaon often enough that it was unexceptional; then I wouid be very glad.

There have been a number of actions recently that do not seem to fit a pattern of stepping back. And they do seem to be losing the rotections of the voluntary agreements with the British press about intrusion. So I fear they might not have a clear lead of future role and have made themselves more vulnerable to press intrusion, I don't think that's a good mix

I also think there might be a bit of a void ahead.

So you've dumped your old life, moved (temporarily?) to a new country, you're still in holiday mode and it's all lovely.

But at some point that's going to get boring and then what do you do? It's not like moving to France to restore a chateau or Spain to open a bar, both of which represent some sort of goal.

I've been lurking on all the other threads. My view is probably so far behind everything it is irrelevant but wanted to say regarding Harry.

Leaving the forces is difficult. You need something structured and positive to go to. Otherwise you flounder. Harry found this in the Royal structure and positive things in charity work, especially with the forces.

Being a trailing spouse is difficult (that is what he is now). Again you need a structured and positive life for yourself in those circumstances. I really don't think he has that.

He has left all this behind with what seems no real idea of what he will do. It doesn't bode well for his future.

I'm not sympathetic to him, he comes across as a very arrogant and entitled young man. (My little P* friend). A man who is so entitled he can't grasp that he has such an utterly privileged life.

I have to say that I am still wondering why they've said they're going to support themselves now.

Are they going to get jobs? Can't they manage on thirty four million quid?

I know I could.

Wtf will you do if nothing happens, cry.

I'm assuming that's a question rather than a statement. Or perhaps a command?

Personally, yes - of course I'll cry.

I'd only just perfected the delicate balance between fuming* and frothing.
You have to fume** just enough to evaporate some of the froth (so you don't drown).

However, you need to keep coated with enough froth to prevent the vitriol burning your fingers.

It's not as easy as it looks.

*Or "fumming"/"fewmin" if you prefer.

**Or "fumm"/"fewm" ditto.

Vanity Fair article on Megxit effect on RF.

toscanello yy re the structured life in the forces, and indeed probably in the RF too. That's what I meant about potentially being in a bit of a void/limbo now.

@peaceanddove

MM was global ambassador for a charity called World Vision (a charity I actively support - well, with a monthly direct debit) - and her visit to India was in connection with that charity. She has done a lot of work with and for that charity.

As regards what class flights she too or the cost of her hotel, like you, I don't have access to that info and so cannot comment and choose not to speculate

Part of the problem (according to the VF article) is that Meghan was not prepared enough.
Apparently a couple of year’s training, is necessary to prepare someone for life in the RF.
Even in scandinavia; Prince Daniel and Princess Sofia of Sweden were sent to Prince/ss school for their training.
You can see William and Kate started very early, and gently with their eldest 2. George would have been about 4 and Charlotte 2; with official overseas visits and so far culminating in the Christmas Day walkabout.

Meghan Markle’s work for World Vision Canada

Yes okay so she went as an 'ambassador' to India. But doing what exactly? Did she have to struggle or go without herself, did she ever get her hands dirty or break a sweat? How did she personally add anything to the charity other than showing up and looking photogenic?

www.worldvision.ca/stories/gender-equality/meghan-markle-humanitarian

I'd only just perfected the delicate balance between fuming and frothing.*
You have to fume just enough to evaporate some of the froth (so you don't drown).

However, you need to keep coated with enough froth to prevent the vitriol burning your fingers

That's a bit of genius

I thought we were waiting for some 'big event'! Really hoping this thread stays pleasant- towards posters on here and people in real life. As it's a discussion forum, I think people can expect people to critique their opinions or ask for clarification without this being distorted!

2 things have increased my sympathy towards Harry already. Did Diana really think Harry "was always meant to support William"? That seems one sided from a mother. And it seems harsh to presume to judge him on behalf of his dead mother.

And the thought of the latest generation already being "started early, and gently". The Royals really have no say in joining the firm, do they? They really should have the right to leave, with a fair settlement and security. And I imagine Kate and Will's other children will be in a similar position one day.

That's a bit of genius

The thing is, most slebs decide that a bit of charidee 'work' is good for the profile.

So you pick the one you like and hope that your chosen charity is grateful enough to have you and/or that you match their particular sleb requirement and they dont think you're going to fuck up/bring them into disrepute.

Then you pitch up to have some photos taken, and then fuck off back home again and then both you and the charity hope that each has raised the profile of the other.

That's pretty much how it works. If sleb and charity are high profile enough then they can become 'ambassadors' and be used for media to highlight charity's latest project, and of course sleb's latest project too. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Shame about the bold fail...salutes to you LaMarschallin, best bit of writing i've read in while!

yolo what a sad cynical post that is. Anyone with a high profile can bring a huge amount to a charity. charidee is rude and reminds me of a poster from yonks ago on the trump threads who insisted on calling it that.

I admire anyone be it a celeb, a member of the RF, ordinary people, my daughters and my DSS who all do something for charity. They take time out to try and help. Is it better to just do nothing?

Apparently "silent but steely" Doria is behind it all now according to the DM. Im not feeling it tbh.

Interesting that Harry is supposedly very close to and getting so much out of his relationship with her when apparently Meghan never really had a family to rely on.

roussette call it sad and cynical if you like - but at the higher echelons it is pretty much true. I am chair of a very small charity (for which I receive no income), have worked with charities throughout my career. I know the game.

And I know the game too.

Yes. Sad and cynical. A reasonably famous person endorsed a branch of the charity I was involved with, she took time out to get involved, it helped us a lot.

Why do the Trump threads keep being mentioned on these threads? Can't you just post on them? We get that you've been noticed by academics and quoted etc and you're feeling pretty good about that but it's not relevant to these threads is it?

I have only mentioned that the word charidee reminded me of someone. Hardly 'keeping mentioning' on this thread is it? This is a new thread.

So just exactly as I thought Yolo and very accurately described by you by the way. True charity is giving something of yourself whilst expecting nothing in return.

Yes but you were banging on about them repetitively on the last thread too. I just don't see the relevance. This is a thread about MM and PH.