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H & M - The Cat, The Barber and the Argyll Pheasant Pluckers

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TheMustressMhor · 22/01/2020 17:13

I hope I've got what everyone wants in the title of this, the twelfth thread in the series.

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OutwiththeOutCrowd · 23/01/2020 14:47

Actually I feel sorry for the Markles - Meghan, Thomas, Samantha and Thomas Jr.

They remind me of a family of hedgehogs interminably trying to get into a love huddle but ending up skewering each other.

TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 14:48

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Roussette · 23/01/2020 14:52

Gone where OP?

Where are we meant to be going? Have I missed something?

SirVixofVixHall · 23/01/2020 14:52

Very much agree with Myimaginarycathasfleas post at 14:09 on page 26.
Loved but rather spoilt child, in a flaky family .

OVienna · 23/01/2020 14:53

These are the quotes in particular that stuck with me from the Telegraph review:

But he also came across as oblivious as to how his actions might seem to others. Could he, for instance, understand why many would consider it a violation to share precious home videos of father and daughter from Meghan’s childhood and adolescence?

In one picture, he glares at the camera: he’s only 20 years old, but he already looks at the world through blank and suspicious eyes. A more astute documentary might have explored how he ended up that way, and whether he is still like that today.

At times like this, Markle was hard to read. His love for his daughter was unmistakeable. But director David Modell didn’t go far enough in interrogating his subject’s motives for speaking and his curious tendency to always stumble into the spotlight.

I left with the feeling that...he must be such a frustrating parent and also...the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree. If that makes sense.

I left with the impression that he was leaving a veiled threat on the table: look after me or else. But it's also curious to me that at the same time people are saying the RF better do what H&M want or else they'll give a warts and all interview....that Meghan is keeping diaries of 'wrongs.' From what I have seen of her dad..yes I'd be scared that could be true.

peridito · 23/01/2020 14:54

Don't fret yourself OP - SCOLD here ,all present and correct !

SirVixofVixHall · 23/01/2020 14:55

Although TM seems to have always worked hard, but made some unwise financial choices after the lottery win. i imagine from that, that his own background was probably pretty poor, and he tried to do sensible things with his win, but it all went awry.

Bluerussian · 23/01/2020 14:56

You didn't mention Brexit in the title. Just saying.

GuytheBeagle · 23/01/2020 15:00

Thanks for all the posts, and totally agree that once having lived in a dysfunctional family, you quickly recognise the signs.

Thanks most of all to the link @curlywurlytwirly posted about enmeshment and narcissism. Fantastic and thought provoking. Felt like the final few bits of my own puzzle fell into place whilst reading it.

TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 15:01

BlueRussian

Heavens above, Not mentioning Brexit in the title was undoubtedly remiss of me.

If we need a new thread, the following has been suggested for the title:

Harry and Meghan - The Return of Cousin Matthew

I suppose I could change that to:

Harry and Meghan - Will Brexit Affect the Return of Cousin Matthew

What does everyone think?

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TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 15:02

Guy how is your cat? You were going to the vet's for blood tests today.

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Albatross123 · 23/01/2020 15:06

TheBrokenPagoda I agree, he reminded me of someone I knew who was a very plausible to the outside world but behind closed doors was an alcoholic. I also wondered what else was in the letter that has remained secret. I guess this might come out in the court case if the whole letter is provided as evidence.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 23/01/2020 15:07

Who’s cousin Matthew?
( what have I missed?)

The SCOLDS seem to enjoy being part of this community.....

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 23/01/2020 15:10

He admitted to telling lie after lie, albeit maybe for the right reasons/intentions, but he's still lied, he's not exactly trustworthy.
He admitted to lying:

  1. To H&M when they asked about the set up pictures for the suit etc
  2. In an interview when he said he'd told H&M he couldn't come and had wished them a happy wedding and honeymoon. (He could hardly say he'd been lambasted by Harry and that he'd hung up on him. How would that have looked?).

He did lie. Lying isn't good. The term 'lie after lie' suggests more than these two that he's admitted to though. I wonder what kind of furore would have been created if he'd told the world in an interview what PH had said to him?

I am against lying but sometimes lie to protect those I love:
Was I worried when diagnosed with Breast Cancer? - "No. Everything is fine. It's been caught early. No point worrying about things you can't change". (Reality: too right I worried about whether it had all been cut out and whether my life would be shortened because of it. Not unduly but I thought about it).

I have a relative with poor MH who had a very serious potentially life-changing surgery. I put on a bright face and told them everything would be fine, lying by omission and as I didn't really know the outcome.

It doesn't mean I'm not trust worthy. It means I'm human, caring and protective of those I love.

Roussette · 23/01/2020 15:12

The SCOLDS seem to enjoy being part of this community.....

Nah. As Groucho Marx said ...
'I don't want to be part of any club that would have me as a member'

Apt I think...

SingingLily · 23/01/2020 15:13

Harry and Meghan - Will Brexit Affect the Return of Cousin Matthew

Heavens above, nooooo, Mustress.

That would be a lightning rod for all sorts of strong opinions, not least all the arguments over whether the thread should be on the Royal Family board or the Brexit Board.

DH recorded the TM interview so I'm going to watch it later - although I add my thanks to NotEverything for the summary upthread. It will help me to watch it with a more analytical eye.

TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 15:16

Yes, CurlyWurly - even though nobody answers them.

The CousinMatthew thread title possibility was posited by someone at the beginning of the thread...………

It came about because @MaisWeee kept telling us that she had no interest in finding out what we were having for dinner, and less interest in pictures of our cats.

Many people then said that we had formed a community of people who were interested in one another.
Then someone likened these threads to the Downton Abbey ones, in which people did form online friendship groups.

That is how we got to Cousin Matthew.

MaisWeee then flounced and started her own thread. In her OP she specified that nobody was to mention menus or cats.

Link

[[https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/3802418-What-next-for-Meghan-and-Harry RIGHT HERE]]

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rockingchaircandle · 23/01/2020 15:17

I think the spiteful speculation/ unfounded allegations about narcissism fall under the MNHQ warning. It came right after I reported posts and asked if they could please put out a warning to try and stop such shameful comments.

All this Cousin Matthew talk, please can't you all go and dissect Downton Abbey instead so you're not targeting real people?

TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 15:19

Oh and MaisWeee was spectacularly unsupportive when I mentioned that I had had a hospital appointment regarding possible skin cancer.

She told me I should start another thread in the "Health" section if I wanted support.

Thanks for that.

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GuytheBeagle · 23/01/2020 15:19

Thanks for asking Mhor She is having blood tests but v likely to be hyperthyroidism.

Treatment options pills, op, gel applied to ear or iodine radiation £2k Shock

Inclined to go for gel. May consider the expensive option as over time it could well be the most cost effective. Although the pills ( can't be crushed so not an option) are available online with a script, the gel appears not to be.

Will know more when I collect her this eve. Poor soul she cried all the way.Sad

TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 15:21

SCOLDS are like buses.

There are several pages without them, then several turn up at once.

If I was being cynical I would think that they alerted one another.

We are doing a good job of upholding the policy of simply declining to engage.

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TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 15:23

GuyTheBeagle

It's awful when they cry all the way to the vet's. I always feel so cruel.

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GuytheBeagle · 23/01/2020 15:23

When is your appointment mhor ? The waiting bit is awful.

TheMustressMhor · 23/01/2020 15:25

Obviously, anyone who comes to this thread with a genuine desire to comment on, or discuss events, will likely find a willing audience.

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Roussette · 23/01/2020 15:25

If I was being cynical I would think that they alerted one another

Grin Paranoia there OP!

Well done on directing your mean girls not to engage with us. Despite some of them wanting us to pull up a chair and discuss. You are some mean dude with power and rule these threads with an iron rod!