H & M - The Cat, The Barber and the Argyll Pheasant Pluckers

[TheMustressMhor]

I hope I've got what everyone wants in the title of this, the twelfth thread in the series.

Does work even count if it’s not on the ‘gram and at least 500k randos liked it

Not in some people's minds, I suppose.

I imagine Princess Anne has no interest in social media. But I'm guessing. Maybe she stays up all night wondering how to increase traffic so that she can make more ££.

Or maybe - she knows she has much more than just about everyone else in the country and is satisfied with it.

I really can't see Princess Anne being excited at the prospect of meeting Elton John and David Furnish.

Oh, and no cats came to wake me up in the middle of the night, for a change.

The thing about the suit though-maybe TM just thought it was fun & wouldn't be used/held against him?

Self promotion isn't as frowned upon in US as UK is it?

@SingingLily

Just catching up with the thread. My apologies for not getting back to NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite sooner about my one day as a bodyguard for Princess Anne. Don't want to go off-topic but if I mention that she is Harry's Auntie, does that keep me within the rules?
Wow, Princess Anne has gone up in my estimation. Always thought she was a good egg but I am laughing at the scene of the naked guy waving and her not batting an eyelid. All in a day's work, eh? 😂

Hello! I’ve lurked through several threads worth of guilty pleasure/fascination with the whole Harry and Meghan situation.

I just wanted to delurk to add my own takeaway from the Thomas Markle documentary last night, which is that having felt genuinely fond of Harry for years and thought that despite his flaws, he seemed like a basically kind person... I’m not sure I will ever view him in quite the same way again. Whatever the rights and wrongs and permutations of the situation, how appalling to leave TM without any support, never bother to meet him, offer useless advice to just ignore being harassed by the paparazzi (something he’s always so quick to condemn publicly), and then tell a guy who’s had a flipping heart attack that he brought it all on himself, essentially?

It just comes across as a totally self-centred, uncaring and high-handed approach - a cruel approach, which is not what I would have expected at all. I now think that actually Harry has disappeared up his own arse and grown into a rather unpleasant and bitter individual. Disrespectful to the Marines, his elderly grandparents, his vulnerable FIL. I’ve officially gone right off him .

Anne always seems the one who has kept herself to herself the most, in terms of her feelz. Everyone knows she loves horses and dogs (like HMQ) and that she doesnt suffer fools at all, let alone gladly (like PP) and that she has a strong sense of duty. Apart from that we really know very little about her. Which has served her very well.

Maybe some of the younger members of the RF should be looking at Anne's example? I actually think Kate has taken a bit of a leaf out of Anne's book - not the famed tetchiness, but the being very careful about what she says to who.

Mustress mine was calm too. But - I fed him at 1 pm...when I came upstairs having fallen asleep on the couch.

@CurlyWurlyTwirly

Regarding Thomas Markle and money, @NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite did an excellent summary again.
Thank you.

(FWIW, $20k as a percentage of her $4million fortune is actually like $200 as a proportion of $40k) peanuts.
Agreed. I was actually basing the rough calculation on estimates of her annual earnings from suits which seem to range from $340k - $440k per series.

How do we even know she has $4m.? Isn't that more than she would have earned from her whole time on Suits, and even assumes she spent nothing?

Especially as she would give him gifts of $5,000 and he said he occasionally asked for $2k.
If she gave him $5k as a Christmas gift then I can't see why $20k over a one year period is that big a deal. Maybe this is what she sees as having taken care of him?

The Obamas are really classy! I’m not surprised they have so many friends and are feted wherever they go.

They really put in the hours, as does PA, and PC... whatever you think about them, taking helicopters or whatever, they do the work and you can’t fake that.

I’m mean PC’s schedule must be brutal for a seventy year old. And her Maj is just super impressive in her 90s. Crikey.

There’s something really tragic about Harry, and all the bad choices he’s made. I wonder if he can see his future at all for himself? I wonder has he a fatalistic outlook?

It’s sort of fascinating isn’t it? And I have to admit there’s a part of me that’s castigating myself for this fascination.

A lot of us on this thread have said they have also experienced people with narc traits... I have that experience too, so I wonder are we primed to see them, as we’ve had the inoculation so to speak. Our immune system reacts to exposure.

It’s easy to see it if you’ve experienced it, and really difficult to see it if you haven’t experienced it.
Maybe that’s why there’s so much divisiveness and polarisation of opinion.

Those who have survived a narc, see through the shenanigans, and those who haven’t are struggling to ascribe a narrative, because it’s really impossible to put your finger onto what’s going on unless you’ve earned your stripes with a narc. and then the patterns are really clear.

Do you mean 1 am, OVienna?

Fed at 1am..

@FlickingVees that's exactly it. I discussed this with my therapist last night (who agreed actually) that once you have seen / lived with certain traits, you spot them so much more quickly. I have come to the conclusion this is a lot of the divide. Many who have had no dealings with a narc just cannot see it....

PS i am not thriving and not ok... hope everyone else is ...

He says she was living with him before she went to college, and yet she was apparently living with her mum.
He said she lived with him until she went to college but if you revisiit it he seems to check himself, did a quick think and then reiterated it. He really seemed to think she was there until college. Channel 5 put a headline up that she spent the few months before college living at Doria's.

I didn't see this as him lying but not remembering quite when she left. (I often think my mum re-writes history as she could get something like this wrong too).

OVienna do you find that when you feed cats at 1 a.m. they repay your kindness by throwing up while you're asleep, thus ensuring that you have a difficult and nauseating stain to deal with once you get up?

Mine are very good at this.

LilyBetsy I am sorry to hear that you are not okay. Godspeed a big improvement.

The thing is did Harry really say that to Thomas Markle? We only have his say so about this or maybe it was framed in a different way to how he makes it come across? Remember that they have never met each other. Harry was getting grief from the courtiers who wanted to know if her dad was coming over to the U K or not and probably really upset by the negative publicity and getting involved with the papers. He was stressed and dealing with a person who his future wife didn't seem too bothered about really ( or that's how it looked) maybe he just said what he said as she was telling him to say it knowing it would put him off coming over for the wedding? I'm not making it clear here but we only have his side of that particular conversation and I bet Meghan was behind a lot of that thinking too? Sometimes things are said and it just comes across as bad but it's not meant to be? Or his just a pampered prince who doesn't really care or understand anything about the real world and just feels that he should have known better !
We only have one side of that particular argument here. Meghan was probably telling him all sorts about her family at the time all to put herself in a good light. She needed him on her side!
That's how I see it.

I think Harry followed Meghan's lead in how to treat her Dad tbh. I said previously and agree with others that she's embarrassed by him and/or just doesn't like him very much. He just treated him like she did. Would have thought he might have better manners though. Or maybe there's a good reason for it and Harry was rude and thoughtless because he knows something about him we don't.

Good morning everyone, just caught up on the thread. Thank you so much for the summaries (will watch later). Had the first night in a week when my youngest didn’t wake with a very bad cough or nosebleed every hour through the night. I passed out next to her just before it started.

Love the PA story singing . And so sorry for your narcissist experiences Mustress and Curly.

I actually feel a bit sorry for MM now. Going to one of these expensive schools, desperate to fit in, trying to re-invent herself, probably being liberal with the truth whilst doing so - and now all her chickens are coming home to roast.

As for TM not being a good dad and “the family she never had”. I just wonder what on Earth she (And others) thinks most families are like? I loved my closest family (most of them dead, hence past tense. I haven’t gone NC ), but they were not in any way perfect. My uncle, there was simply no excuse for him. But then I never expected my family to be perfect.

I wonder if MM has been so into social media that she believes that others lives are more perfect than they are and is trying to recreate it. And that is why she is more keen on the instant adoration, the followers and the likes than the low key work. I am pretty sure that it is a huge difference in views between the normal people going about their day and the instagram followers. And maybe MM is looking mainly to the latter....

Re TM's lottery win:

Thomas won the lottery after his divorce and when MM was 9 yrs old.
He used some of his win on a car for Samantha, setting up a commercial business for his son Tom and MM's private school.

The rest he invested and lost in a badly advised jewellery business.

He applied for bankruptcy 3 times once before the lottery win and twice after.

He had no money to pay for MM's University education. He paid only for her school education. MM paid for her own Uni education.

Regards where Meghan lived maybe she went back and forth ; bit of a boomerang?
My friend was like this : back and forth to her mums then moved out then back again. You couldn't keep up at times! Her mum probably wouldn't remember things that happened in the 90s either or what time frame she lived with her or not.
Maybe Meghan played one parent off the other one? Children do this a lot as well.
I wonder what Doria thinks about this interview? Maybe her take on it would be different?

He did play the victim in this interview a bit.
The thing with the poison pen letter was odd ; he now thinks people are out to get him ( paranoid)
Which is understandable but might ramp up again after this? Will it be shown in America?
I think he is after money as well ; feels she owes him for helping her so much as a kid?
He is loyal to her mum. Very complex situation and I think he could be a bit dangerous as he is clearly bitter about things.

No, no throw ups. But I realised this morning that we have him on that feeding schedule because we are out during the day. Only my DH and I will give him wet, the girls would give the cat dry. But that doesn't COUNT. That's not the SAME.

Paranoia about people being out to get him, cutting deals to get money, only interested in money. The apple really didn’t fall far from that tree.

PinkSun9
That's very detailed information - where did it come from?