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Harry and Meghan Resigning - HRH No More

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TheMustressMhor · 18/01/2020 18:42

Thread Nine.

How will they react to this?

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TheMustressMhor · 19/01/2020 13:06

Well if he really was such a useless puppet you are happy to see him go, right?

Yes.

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Planeplane · 19/01/2020 13:06

It occurs to me that Meghan has probably sold Canada to Harry during that six weeks off. Amazing house in a beautiful scenic location. Great walks, privacy etc. He loves nature and probably thought ‘this is so much better than living in Windsor in a goldfish bowl’.

Only now it appears that she wants to live in Toronto. So if they live there they’ll be in a busy city surrounded by her friends. She’ll be busy touting for work. He’ll be at home with the nanny all day.

Yes, I think this is exactly what has happened.

WobblyAllOver · 19/01/2020 13:07

New to this thread but I think the statement from the RF is what I would call a 'win win' for both parties. Both sides will feel that they got what they wanted with a little bit of compromise so both will be happy. A good outcome for all and is what you want from any 'divorce'.

Whether it works in the long term for each side we will just have to wait and see.

extrastrongnosugar · 19/01/2020 13:08

sirching: the record suggests he was happy to keep doing his royal engagements and the queen decided for him not to.
so maybe direct all that anger at the queen?

MasakaBuzz · 19/01/2020 13:08

I expect Andrew thinks that he can turn this situation to his advantage, and inveigle his way back in.

If the Queen does allow that I think she will see the Monarchy die before she does.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 19/01/2020 13:10

Listening to the Dear Jane letter from King Edward VIII to the nation, delivered in sombre and sonorous tones, has made me reflect on the lack of majesty in Harry and Meghan’s exit from the royal stage. Of course their case is of much less constitutional importance but, still, I find myself feeling that something is fundamentally lacking in the approach adopted by them.

King Edward got a lot wrong in his life but addressing the British people and making his case clearly was admirable.

Like everyone else, I discovered the equivalent of a glossy leaflet advertising grandiose future plans on my doormat but what I felt was needed was a proper letter from Harry and Meghan, addressed specifically to us, the British people, acknowledging the past and finding something good to say about it, whilst explaining clearly why the relationship between us could not continue as it was.

We have had lucid statements from the Queen but from Harry and Meghan we’ve had very little clarity.

They are not happy. It’s our fault - or the media’s - or that of other Royals. People have been toxic, racist, unwelcoming. That appears to be the message, bringing together the little that has been said by them directly and what they seem to be allowing friends to say on their behalf - if media reports are to be believed. Do they really want this narrative to stand? It seems from their silence on the matter that they do. (Steps were taken by the Palace to counter the rumour of a rift between William and Harry. So there is certainly recent precedent for speaking out to rectify such stories.)

I think most people in this country are painfully aware of the pockets of racism in the UK, the risk of insularity attached to being an island nation and how monstrous the press can be, but surely, even amongst all that, there is something gracious to be said in the parting of ways. Now is the moment for them to be generous and conciliatory.

But he’s only the 6th in line to the throne. Why the fuss, you might say, if their departure is ill-tempered?

The answer to that is Harry and Meghan set themselves up very publicly as royal representatives of the UK. There was the introductory grand tour of the countries in the UK when Meghan first arrived, the pomp-and-circumstance wedding and the high profile Commonwealth tours. What was that all about if they can then skulk away with scarcely a direct word to the British people?

And I’m saying that as a republican and someone who doesn’t feel the whole Britishness thing personally.

It’s hard to make any sense out of how this has been handled. Even out of self-interest, if your planned future product is going to be royalty in some shape or form, why diss it, or allow it to be dissed, by friends?

I seem to remember when Gerald Ratner called his products crap, it did not do much for his jewellery business.

A thoughtful and dignified Dear Jane letter to the nation, then, a valedictory address in the manner of King Edward, who knew something about noblesse oblige, that is what is needed, and what might bring some honour to this whole affair.

No need to invite Emily Maitlis along to help out though. Just ask Uncle Andy!

But, Harry and Meghan, saying a few words on camera directly to the British public could be powerful.

Taking your cue from King Edward, you could reaffirm your loyalty to the rest of the family and commit yourself to continuing to support them all in a private capacity, recognising that your departure will mean that others will be called upon to do more.

You might clarify the situation with respect to your patronages too. And you might speak fondly of the British people and all you have learnt whilst working alongside them. Thank them for the memories. Touch on your reasons for leaving but let it not be too much a matter of blame but more of a growing recognition that your aspirations are not compatible with being royal.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 19/01/2020 13:10

From quite a bit earlier n this thread:

Why are they pushing for voiceover work, specifically?

Because as Harry Enfield playing Prince Charles in 'The Windsors' put it, "There's so much work for over-40 actresses in Hollywood

astrogirl99 · 19/01/2020 13:11

@SirChing
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Great comment.

TheMustressMhor · 19/01/2020 13:11

Perhaps I should have qualified my previous comment.

I am happy to see PH go, in the sense that I believe he has behaved disgracefully, and because there is a good deal of evidence that the demands of the Sussexes were very much on the cards even before Meghan had Archie.

This debacle has been planned for ages and it does not make me respect PH at all.

He has collaborated with his wife in a highly disrespectful series of acts against his elderly grandmother and the Crown itself.

So - yes. I am glad he has gone, from that point of view.

Leaving Prince William and his family to bear the burdens of royalty and kingship was, however, the act of a cad.

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queenofarles · 19/01/2020 13:13

Has anybody heard about the diary Meghan is keeping? The royals are all in it, stuff that isn't common knowledge, how the staff treated her. All the dirt. And she journalled it all.

I’d take everything with a generous pinch of salt,
This is classic, "see it’s not me it’s them and how they treated me and here is the proof"
Not to mention how creepy is that Shock

But To be fair ,I think her response about being here for pitch is her way of saving face , it must have been an extremely embarrassing situation for everybody except Harry who thought nothing wrong of it.
Perhaps they argued and MM was not happy at that time, he just seemed like desperate and really trying hard to please her.

These two videos are really humiliating and maybe her visit to the charities in Canada was damage control.

SingingLily · 19/01/2020 13:13

I think she will continue with the court case. People of her personality type cannot let go.

I agree, Mustress. Winning is the only thing that matters. From what I've read, MM probably would win the case purely on the basis of ownership of copyright but the MoS will put up such a strong defence of "public interest" that it will entail washing a great deal of dirty laundry in public first. It will be a Pyrrhic victory.

She will have lost whatever good reputation she had left. The MoS and its sister newspapers (as well as the world press generally) will sell a lot of newspapers.

And all those A-Listers? They'll make a careful and calculated choice. They'll stay well clear of it all because they won't want to limit their opportunities to hobnob with the Royals at public events. After all, look at David Beckham's leaked emails about Katherine Jenkins and her honour. Up until then, it looked as though his K was all but assured. Now hell would freeze over first.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 19/01/2020 13:13

anyway, it's a free for all site, and a lot of people love harry and megs and what they are trying to do.

Indeed. There's a thread praising them running at the minute. Maybe take a look? I've only read and not posted or ridiculed anyone posting on it as I wouldn't want to force my views onto anyone else or attempt to prevent the discussion. It would feel really arrogant to do so.

GlitchStitch · 19/01/2020 13:14

the record suggests he was happy to keep doing his royal engagements and the queen decided for him not to.

Do you think she had much choice, when they were caught touting for jobs whilst still being working royals, and when Meghan started emailing charities and turning up for photo ops? It would have been too difficult to establish who they were representing at any of their engagements.

SingingLily · 19/01/2020 13:14

Ooh, forgot to add, share some homemade food chez Mhor?

I'm already on my way, Mustress. Thank you!

extrastrongnosugar · 19/01/2020 13:16

I think its a win:
harry gets out which is what he wants.
charles gets to slim down the RF family which is what he wants.
the princess sisters get to pick up more work, which is what they want, probably, and also gives them a chance to rehabilitate their father,
which is what the queen wants.

all that's left now is for the people to swarm to the next outrage, give it a few days.

TheMustressMhor · 19/01/2020 13:18

Just bear in mind SingingLily that you cannot really rely on West Coast Motors to actually run the buses they say are on the timetable.

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OVienna · 19/01/2020 13:18

@Outwiththecrowd

Very well said.

GlitchStitch · 19/01/2020 13:19

Winning is the only thing that matters. From what I've read, MM probably would win the case purely on the basis of ownership of copyright but the MoS will put up such a strong defence of "public interest" that it will entail washing a great deal of dirty laundry in public first.

Yep. The defence submitted by the MOS suggests quite a lot of stuff that will reflect very badly on Meghan, even if she 'wins'.

SingingLily · 19/01/2020 13:19

that you cannot really rely on West Coast Motors to actually run the buses they say are on the timetable.

But at least they have onboard loos, Mustress. Handy if you're going via Calgary.

TheMustressMhor · 19/01/2020 13:25

There's a thread running praising them running at the moment

Link, anyone?

I can't find a thread praising the Sussexes anywhere.

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lyralalala · 19/01/2020 13:28

the princess sisters get to pick up more work, which is what they want, probably, and also gives them a chance to rehabilitate their father,

I don’t think the York girls will pick up any bigger role

Harry and Meghan are keeping their patronage’s so there are none of those to be covered

The Queen’s are being dished out and will now fall mostly on William and Kate. I think their odds of having a fourth child have now dropped dramatically

Rather than the York’s stepping up I think we’re more likely to see Edward and Sophie focus a little less specifically on the Duke of Edinburgh Awards and the foreign royal weddings and they’ll become more visibly active in other areas

The biggest impact this will have will be on the Cambridge children. They won’t have the luxury of being in their late 20s or 30s before they become full time working royals as their parents are going to be the only ones of their generation working

In 20 years, assuming no revolution or anything like that, Edward will be 75, Sophie 74, Anne 89 and Charles and Camilla both 91. George, Charlotte and Louis will go straight in as full time royals after university more like Charles and Anne than the way william and Harry had their time first

I wouldn’t be surprised if that wasn’t partly behind the frostiness between the brothers. William will not have wanted that for his kids

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 19/01/2020 13:30

Charles will hopefully bring on yep thé York princesses.
I think Eugenie would be particularly good, especially at the «boring, uk based» charities.
Apart from a questionable taste in hats, despite their father’s shenanigans, they have behaved.
Meghan and Harry were doing about 200 engagements between them.
That is a lot of extra work to put on William and Kate. I think the understanding was that they could raise their families whilst the children were young, because being Monarch and Consort is not a job they are going to just retire from aged 70.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 19/01/2020 13:34

Yes the Wessexes will definitely be higher profile.
When Phillip dies; they will be the a Duke & Duchess of Edinburgh.

Maybe Harry will come back in a fe years, when Archie is Olderand do more Commonwealth work with wife no.2

TheMustressMhor · 19/01/2020 13:34

I have a feeling that in 20 years, PW will have become King, and George will be Prince of Wales.

Prince Charles never looks very healthy to me. I think his reign will be pretty short.

Princess Charlotte will (eventually) become Princess Royal, after her marriage and in recognition of work done for the RF. It isn't a given, obviously.

The Princess Royal before Princess Anne was Princess Mary, the Queen's aunt, who lived until 1965.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Princess_Royal_and_Countess_of_Harewood

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strictlymomdancing · 19/01/2020 13:35

This thread moves too fast.

I wonder if PA with the Queen is a way of easing him back into ft working royal again?

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