Harry and Meghan Resigning - HRH No More

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Thread Nine.

How will they react to this?

Then it’s likely that there would be Meghan, Duchess of Sussex (unless she had voluntarily dropped the title by that stage) and New Wife, Duchess of Sussex, Princess Henry

So there’d be two Duchesses of Sussex? Was Diana a duchess of anything?

Not exactly a "progressive new role" if they are stepping back completely! It was only recently that they said they wanted such a role, so again I doubt these conversations have been going on for many months like the statement said, and H&M just wanted QE to say that to make them look better.

Very true. Has that bit been wiped from their website yet? It was rather presumptuous of them wasn’t it?

Camilla is duchess of cornwall, not princess of wales.

So if PH remarried, his new wife might use one of his other titles.

HMQ knows that the longevity of the RF is built upon sharp ears & sharp elbows - listen to what advisors, the Great British Public & Commonwealth countries are saying, consider, reflect, take decisive action & move swiftly on.

HMQ grew up in a RF that let a wayward charmer Edward go his own way & the institution survived.

The family photo at Christmas of HMQ, Princes Charles, William & George shows a more assured line of succession than in living memory (or even further ?) - four generations’ worth. Whether the RF & a constitutional monarchy lasts beyond Charles is another matter.

They have won. Lots of opportunities will come their way, fame and £. Still royal even without HRH but without restrictions and the stultifying royal life. They are living the dream. I don't think they will split.

What would happen if Harry were to remarry one day (and was still the Duke of Sussex at that point?)

Same as Price Charles did, use one of his many other titles for his new wife. Camilla is Duchess of Cornwall because PC is also Duke of Cornwall, amongst other things.

Harry's full titleis (His Royal Highness?) The Duke of Sussex, Earl of Dumbarton and Baron Kilkeel.

Oh Harry , so well loved and reasonably respected .
Such a shame !
I do hope the queen has left a way back into the 'family firm' if things deteriorate further , I really do .

Camilla is duchess of cornwall, not princess of wales

Camilla is Princess of Wales. She's never in a million years going to use that title though. I wonder if Kate will, or stick to Doc?

strictlymomdancing - if PH remarried, his new wife might use one of his other titles

or Meghan would be Lady Dumbarton? Or the Countess Dumbarton?

They are living the dream.

I’m not so sure. Harry has given up a huge amount for this - I hope his new life turns out to be worth it. Time will tell.

Camilla is definitely Princess of Wales, as she is married to the Prince of Wales, but she won’t use that title because it wouldn’t go down well with 99% of the UK I think. I don’t know if she will be known as Queen Camilla, it will be interesting to see how that pans out in the future.

Camilla is Princess of Wales. She's never in a million years going to use that title though. I wonder if Kate will, or stick to Doc?

Yes she is and I'm surprised how many people don't realise this.

It's the same manoeuvre as has been done with H&M tbh re: not using HRH but equally not having the title taken from them - in hindsight an obvious gambit.

I do think Cathrine's position is different though.

When PC is King he will decide (or not) to appoint PW as PoW (but given PW has spoken publicly about learning the ropes re: the Duchy of Cornwall I think this is a foregone conclusion).

There's no "emotional" issues about Cathrine being PoW - rather a natural succession that would have happened anyway if PC/Diana had not divorced.

The family photo at Christmas of HMQ, Princes Charles, William & George shows a more assured line of succession than in living memory (or even further ?)

Tail end of Queen Victoria's reign was the last time - Victoria, the Prince of Wales (future Edward VII) his son the Duke of York (future George V) and his two elder sons, future Edward VIII and George VI.

I know she's princess of wales, I meant she doesn't use it.

So yes, the wives would have different titles.

ha ha Meghan on Horrible Bosses right now!

Chelsea Davy could not face being a royal wife. Oh the irony.

As a Canadian I’m intrigued to see where they end up. I’d rather they shifted out of my backyard and at least went 5 hours east to Toronto. It’s a bit peculiar them being on the west coast when her friends are all in TO. Is it proximity to LA that got them to BC or did Harry not fancy a Toronto winter?

As for us (Canadians) paying for their security, fuck that. Neither of them is Canadian, they invited themselves, our tax money should go to the greater good, not be spent on a pair of uninvited layabouts.

Although Harry and Meghan will be on a high now, free to do what they want when they want, I think in the end, it will be a case of careful what you wish for (well for Harry at least) for now they will be the new global super star couple and be the darlings of the A listers, but give it 5 years when their profile is not backed up by doing royal tours of the commonwealth etc, their profile will be of less value. In the meantime the royal family will sadly have 2 state funerals, a coronation and I’m guessing an investiture. William and Kate’s profile will be huge, the royal family will never be overshadowed, not in the long term. Never underestimate the power of the crown 👑

They still have the use of Frogmore, but will pay rent when they do use it. Allegedly (BBC news tonight).

The Invictus games - I do think Harry did a great job with that and I hope he can continue so we'll see what happens in the next games.

My objection to them receiving money from Charles is that it is the opposite of independence. Hopefully his financial support will be needed less as their own earnings kick in.

Security arrangements - I doubt we'll hear anything about that, on the grounds of security. There will be plenty of speculation though!

I expect their website will change again, can't really claim to be 'serving the Monarchy' now! Agree that having the Queen's quote about serving her whole life on the front page doesn't really chime with their own actions.

According to the DM, Mr Markle has done an interview for Chanel 5

“The Duchess of Sussex’s estranged father has spoken in depth for the first time about the Megxit crisis – and accused his daughter of ‘cheapening’ the Royal Family and throwing away ‘every girl’s dream’ for money.

In a TV documentary, Thomas Markle describes Meghan and Harry’s behaviour as embarrassing, says they are ‘turning into lost souls’ and, in a reference to a discount American supermarket giant, adds: ‘They are turning it [the Royal Family] into a Walmart with a crown on.’“

Channel. 🙄

This is like a made for tv film drama

Joining the thread to say that I think HMQ has played a blinder. If she had stripped H&M off their HRH and Frogmore she would have had little to hold over them to ensure that they don't embarrass her.

If PC has any sense, he will continue to fund them for the same reason - they will be less likely to bite the hand that feeds.

It's sad that it is mostly Harry that is losing out. Meghan may well think she has won: she keeps her title, the house and can do what she likes.

Harry knows that not being allowed to use the HRH and represent the Queen means he is in disgrace. See also him losing his military positions.

I think the RF have been very cunning. Appearing to give Meghan what she wants, supporting her publicly in the statements, so there can be no comeback, but making it crystal clear to Harry what he has lost.

Almost as if the RF want to leave the door open for him for the future, whilst having it hit home to him right now how much this marriage, and his wife, have cost him. Which could grate on him even more if Meghan is happy with it all.

The security thing has to be covered. Whether they are undertaking royal duties or not, they are a target in their daily lives, both at home and outside it.

They have both behaved appallingly, but they still haven't asked or deserve to be unsafe. Harry is a target through who he was born to, as is Archie and therefore Meghan. To withdraw their security would be bloody awful and make them sitting ducks. They don't get to opt out of being a target so the Royal Family need to pay for their security.

Joining thread to agree with Sirching

They have behaved like spoiled entitled children who haven’t heard the word ‘no’ much growing up.

@monkeytennis97 Thanks! Love the name, that episode always makes me PMSL