Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan?

[DaveCoaches]

Just seeing if there’s any interest. I think they have their faults but I think this may turn out to be a good thing long term. Anyone want to join in?

Any sympathy I may have had for Thomas Markle evaporated totally when he said Harry isn't 12 anymore, he needs to be less sensitive. For anyone who doesn't know Harry was 12 when he lost his mum and made to walk behind he coffin .

My Gran used to say:
Where the life is empty the muck flies
She may have had a point there

Thanks, PortiaCastis

Aw that is foul Sunshine what a horrible man!

I’m glad posters have been enjoying the thread, it’s been nice to check back into every day or so.

Can you imagine the slating if her mother Doria had done a fraction of what Thomas has done?

I think an enormous amount of the hatred of MM is fundamentally down to jealousy.

She's beautiful, intelligent and successful. And now she's married a prince. I can totally see why a lot of women who are struggling or bored with their lives would hate her and want to catch her out, bring her down, and generally make her seem lesser.

A lot of the stuff you see on the threads is so completely unfounded in reality, yet people spout it as if they're letting everyone else into a secret no one else knows. They're making themselves feel a bit more important, a bit bigger, a bit more special.

Glad to see that this thread is still going.

I am avoiding the dark side now. Reading even snippets of those threads was making me feel like I was having the life sucked out of me, I imagine much like having a brush with Dementors.

Meanwhile, in Canada, hopefully a baby might be asleep and his parents relaxing with their dogs by the fire after a nice supper and focussing on the future. The best revenge on haters is to ignore them and be happy, but it's hard of course when such a vocal and negative minority are critically watching (or imagining!) your every move and willing you to fail. Here's to living your life and proving them wrong.

I heard a creepy sounding journalist being interviewed on The Media show on Radio4, I think it was, gleefully saying he had the info that they were moving to Canada on 28th Dec from some palace leak.
So I doubt they had any control over how the plans to go were put out.

Helga dreadful. But of course, what happened to the Spice Girls, Gordon Brown etc much worse.

I ventured on to the thread - many threads ago - totally misunderstood it, didn't realise how mad it was. These are the people who think Benedict Cumberbatch's wife stole him - from whom? - and faked pregnancy and I think stalked her! No wonder they live in LA now. So much easier to live behind a gate there.

oh and there was a member of a boy band who got married and had a baby and there were hate groups online? Quite scary really.

Apologies if you've seen this but I thought it was worth putting on here. It was published last Tuesday but you might've missed it.

I did link it on the H&M haters thread but I doubt anyone on there clicked on it!

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/21/what-explains-prince-andrew-rehabilitation-and-harry-vilification-misogyny

Just a snippet...

"Talk about a tale of two princes. While Andrew is described as a rock (he has the charisma of one), Harry is torn apart by the redtops, painted as an entitled brat who has abandoned queen and country to jet off and start a new life. Andrew has kept his titles and stipend from the Queen since the Epstein scandal, when he was made to step back from his public duties for the “foreseeable future”. On the other hand, Harry and Meghan have been forced to make a clean break from the firm and relinquish their Royal Highness titles and taxpayer funding. The Sussexes will also pay back £2.4m in public money spent renovating their home; Andrew has made no statements about his debts to the taxpayer"

It's worth a read.

Sorry but I have to ask this. why is mn hq allowing on line bullying? the thread where MM is being ripped apart and the sources are things like the sun or Daily hate.
shouldn't a parenting website be making a stand against this, rather that condoning it?
I would post on the thread. but I really am not in the headspace to be called names and attacked.
I do wonder what will be said if in the future mn hq what to join an anti bulling campaign.

Yes I agree MNHQ really do need to address the online bullying issue because it's dreadful to think one woman with a baby is being targeted by posters on a website by Parents for Parents

Totally agree. It's just a shame that those dishing it out can't see that.

Maybe it's tolerated because of the amount of traffic H & M are driving to the website. Mumsnet is a business, so I guess the thing that matters is revenue from advertising. I reported a post which called Harry a 'greedy fucker' and the response, verbatim, was:

Yes - we think in terms of people in the public eye (especially famous or royal), this is an okay comment.

It was surprising how long posts using the term SCOLDS were allowed to stand, but to be fair, I think a number of them were eventually removed. Such an offensive, loaded term to call other women.

It is stunning to me that MNHQ has let so many nasty threads and posts stand. The misogyny on some of those threads is the most disheartening thing I have ever encountered on MN. I'm so appreciative of this thread and I hope it keeps going as an antidote to the hate being spewed on the other threads.

Yes, the ad views will be going through the roof. Agencies will be happy. MN will be happy. Advertisers will be happy.

Who cares about a bit of bullying if you can boost your ad impressions eh?

FramboiseRoyale yes, agreed. And so so many of them. It's unprecedented AFAIC, never seen so many threads directed at one famous person. The trouble is... the posters on there now feel they've been given the green light by MNHQ to say what they want with no redress.

(p.s. your name reminds me I was given Chambord black raspberry liquer for christmas, to add to champagne/prosecco. Could just do with one now!)

The misogyny on some of those threads is the most disheartening thing I have ever encountered on MN

Yes, I agree. I thought about leaving here altogether tbh.

I did actually leave for a few days. I just re-registered under my new (and slightly more festive) user name.

oh wow, good thing I haven't looked

I had to install Ad Blocker because of MN. Never before, but it was all driving me mad.

Could just do with one now! Be sure to drop a few frozen raspberries in the bottom of the glass, Roussette.

I do hope Meghan and Harry and little Archie are thriving, and all of this media and social networking interest in them will subside. I just can't imagine what it would be like to have to live with that level of public interest and scrutiny.

I find the vitriol, meanness, spitefulness and general Meganphobia of the numerous threads dispiriting, disappointing and distressing. It's difficult to post on this thread without getting sucked into commenting on those hate-filled threads.

But back to subject head of thread.

I am happy for Harry that he has married a beautiful, intelligent, vibrant and talented woman with views on what matters to her (eg feminism and other social issues) and with a track history of charitable work (pre her involvement with Harry). And a woman who is unashamed of her mixed race heritage.

I am happy for Meghan that she has a beautiful healthy child and that her advance (late 30s) did not cause her difficulties conceiving. I am happy for her that she has a loving and supportive husband who, with her, is prioritising their mental health, sanity and general emotional health.

I am happy for them both that the queen has been supportive, that her public statement was warm and particularly kind in respect of Meghan.

The threads are appalling. I thought FWR was an awful echo chamber tolerating little dissent or even discussion. However, at least with FWR it's about an ideology as opposed to launching into sustained and spiteful attacks on an individual person

Totally agree with your thread of 16.33 Aridane. And I just hope they get left in peace.

I truly hope they are shagging, having just eaten roast chicken whilst watching The Crown.