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Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan?

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DaveCoaches · 17/01/2020 13:40

Just seeing if there’s any interest. I think they have their faults but I think this may turn out to be a good thing long term. Anyone want to join in?

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Samcro · 21/01/2020 09:58

i am fed up with mn hq now. they seem to allow anyone to post nasty stuff now. the current thread going is full of vile stuff. mn used to be for parents. but seems only if your not royal.
they think its a laugh, but forget they are bullying real people.

Roussette · 21/01/2020 10:00

I think I need to start threads on Victoria Beckham and Katie Price as anyone is fair game now! (they've been taken down in the past as they 'are not in the spirit of MN')

Damntheman · 21/01/2020 10:06

I rather like Meghan. She's a talented hard working woman who has had significant success in her own right. She's opinionated and warm, she CARES and it's easy to see. I'm sad to see them go as I also hoped they might change the monarchy for the better. But it shouldn't lie on one woman's shoulders to change such an archaic institution. Good for them for not putting up with the shit that gets slung at them. I wish them all the best.

Roussette · 21/01/2020 10:10

Totally agree Damn

Zipadeedoodah · 21/01/2020 10:11

Any other way to complain to mumsnet other than email ?

HepburnKNotA · 21/01/2020 10:17

I really really hope they can find peace and happiness away from the toxicity of the British media (though they, the media that is, have a loooong reach and I worry that now H&M are no longer 'royal' they are no longer protected by the agreed codes put in place apparently after Diana died).

No reason at all why they should have to put up and shut up, just because others do it/have done it in the past. The vitriol towards them (75% stoked by one Piers Morgan, who as other have pointed out and as mentioned by Alan Rusbridger in the Guardian yesterday, just MAY have somewhat of an interest that he has never declared in the case of Harry and phone-hacking etc...) has been breath-taking.

I felt so sad for PH reading the text of his speech the other night where he said how happy he was to have had his charity rooting for him and Meghan, I think then his specific words were that people thought 'The second son of Diana finally getting hitched, hooray!'

For some reason those specific words made me feel so sad for him. :( It sounds as if maybe he very much sees himself entirely through the lens of being 'Diana's second son', and is aware of just how much interest there is in his life and his choices from total strangers, who wish him good or ill, either way it's quite a burden.

I don't know him from Adam but feel just very sad for anyone who lives their life in the kind of fishbowl he has, not just because he's royal but because (perhaps even more because) he's Diana's son. So sad for him that his life comes with all the burdens of her incredible level of celebrity but that he doesn't even have her around and missed years of his childhood with her. Worst of all worlds, really - she casts such a long shadow and yet he was deprived of her so young.

Money doesn't make up for any of that. I know he doesn't have to worry about paying the bills but it's just sad to see a young person, anyone really, so publically vulnerable.

I hope he's found his 'home' in Meghan and his son, and I hope he finds the peace of mind all of us deserve.

I don't think they've done everything perfectly, nobody ever does, and I feel a little as if they're now so over-sensitised to the hideous media barrage that they're in a bit of a bubble which can't be healthy for anyone, let alone people who have mental health challenges, I know myself that I can get quite gridlocked mentally if I have challenges and cannot get myself out of a deep groove and feel very aggrieved which isn't helpful.

But hopefully a little more space and distance will rebalance them.

Nuttyfellalovesnutella · 21/01/2020 10:17

I hate the monarchy and think it should be demolished. However, I have a great respect for H&M and think they are making the right decision for themselves as a family. It must be awful to have all the negative press, and the final straw was probably the publishing of Meghans letter. I’m not sure why they don’t like Meghanbut I think she is great, and a breath of fresh air.

They should be careful not to tarnish all press with the same brush though.

Aridane · 21/01/2020 10:21

Twitter?

Aridane · 21/01/2020 10:23

Has MN actually said why they're allowing TEN threads of vicious vitriol towards a married couple with a young baby? The level of spite and made up bullshit on those threads is appalling, especially on a parenting site

If this were about the McCanns, the threads would be deleted in a nano second. Anyone else even, after the first x3 reports.

But MM (and Prince Harry), let's leave up grossly defamatory and spiteful thread after thread, post after post. Knowing that libel proceedings are unlikely

Roussette · 21/01/2020 10:25

If this were about Victoria Beckham it would be deleted and has been before!

Mischance · 21/01/2020 10:28

It is such a breath of fresh air to read these kind and sensitive posts after all the rubbish and bitchery that is happening on social media and the media in general.

Good luck to them both!

BonnesVacances · 21/01/2020 10:55

But MM (and Prince Harry), let's leave up grossly defamatory and spiteful thread after thread, post after post. Knowing that libel proceedings are unlikely

Unlikely, but not impossible. Especially now they're essentially private citizens. I'd love it if they've employed a team to keep tabs on all the libellous statements and follow up where necessary. They've set it all out in the case against the DM, so not beyond possibility.

But WTAF are MN doing? Maybe they need to reestablish what the "spirit of the site" is? Or is it just a case of not wanting to be sued?

Zipadeedoodah · 21/01/2020 11:47

I complained - this is part of the response I got:

"Thanks for getting back to us. We're sure you understand that since Harry and Meghan are featuring so heavily in the news right now, we expect in turn an increase in the number of threads about them. In truth we don't feel it's a good idea to censor these discussions entirely - and it's reasonable that MNers want to talk about it."

Zipadeedoodah · 21/01/2020 11:48

I would say their response js tone deaf - they have absolutely no clue about this - I replied to say that I hope MN evolves or I need to find a new platform -

Zipadeedoodah · 21/01/2020 11:51

They go on to say they will challenge posts which are explicitly racist/ sexist.. however they won't challenge the fact that the reason that there is so much anti- m sentiment is because of an racist bias.. unless it is spelt our racism they aren't interested

Conformingtoregulations · 21/01/2020 11:55

The McCann threads were not zapped, far from it. Some posts deleted but there were so many of them at the time. This will all die down in good time

peridito · 21/01/2020 12:19

There's a huge gap between " censoring these discussions entirely " and following their own Talk guidelines " We will also delete any posts that we think are just seriously unpleasant ".

But hey MN will do want they want ,I'm sure their motivation is to maximise use of their website and make money .

Sorry if I've shattered anyone's idea that behind the scenes were a bunch of friendly folk whose aim was simply to Make parents' lives easier by pooling knowledge, advice and support

Aridane · 21/01/2020 12:20

Gosh - I have only ever seen McCann-related stuff taken down super quick and posters joking about how long a critical post will last before it goes poof.

I suppose the difference is that the McCanns are notoriously litigious and the Sussexes much less so - though they have initiated a couple of sets pof proceedings against some of the press (Pier Morgan take note)

Feminazgul · 21/01/2020 12:36

Ah, the famous MNHQ double standards.

BonnesVacances · 21/01/2020 12:42

There's a huge gap between " censoring these discussions entirely " and following their own Talk guidelines " We will also delete any posts that we think are just seriously unpleasant ".

Quite! I wonder if we'd get away with endless threads criticising MN and wildly speculating about their intentions and casting dispersions on their characters.

Very disappointing. Having already deleted FB, and weaning myself off Twitter, I think I'll follow suit with MN. They're all big time eaters tbh, I'd probably be more productive without them. Grin

Conformingtoregulations · 21/01/2020 12:57

Aridane were you on here at the time? There were so many threads, day and night, god some of them were awful but they certainly weren't all zapped far from it. Maybe as the years went on but not at first

Roussette · 21/01/2020 13:18

Sorry to bang on.... but how can posts about Katie Price and VBeckham be zapped and not one of the 11 threads that have run on MN?

I have just been told by the OP that the intention is not to pick on her but to discuss what is happening. You could've fooled me! I could spend half a day listing all the names she's been called, the pickiing her to pieces, the nasty comments, the character assassination , on and on and on through those threads. But I am not going to engage any more, I've said my bit and got jumped on... it's up to them, get on with it.

I have to say I am both surprised and disappointed with MNHQ.

GoFiguire · 21/01/2020 13:36

Life is full of disappointments Rouseete

Barbararara · 21/01/2020 13:42

Can’t say I’m even interested in H&M but I want to add a post to this thread in protest at the vitriol being directed at them.

McCanne · 21/01/2020 13:57

I’m not into the royal stuff but good luck to them. I saw pictures of Meghan walking her dogs with the baby in a carrier and she looked relaxed and happy. You only get one life, good on them for trying to make it their best one.

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