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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?

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TheMustressMhor · 17/01/2020 00:06

This is Thread Eight in a series which I did not imagine would last more than one.

Meghan's friends are now writing on social media that she has been fortunate to "escape the clutches" of the Royal Family.

We, who care enough for the Queen that we are appalled by Meghan's blatant disrespect for the Crown (and the family which embraced her) are still reeling as we go from revelation to revelation. This bizarre and unprecedented situation has unfolded over a period of just eight days.

We are now beginning to see what Meghan's likely agenda was. It seems that abandoning the UK was her plan even prior to the wedding - a wedding which cost the British people £20,000,000.

Not many people actually begrudged paying that £20,000,000. But some were prescient enough to say that the marriage would not last and that Meghan would abandon this country once she had a child.

She has. She has fulfilled those prognostications amply.

It was just rather...quicker than perhaps we had imagined...…. and a good deal more brutal. Cries of "racism" have abounded - cries which are simply not justified.

What will happen next? Meghan has gone to Canada, a country which does not seem particularly keen to foot the huge bill for security which her presence requires. She is dropping in on charities for disadvantaged women, almost unannounced, without the backing or knowledge of Buckingham Palace. It is cringeworthy and embarrassing in the extreme.

Prince Harry seems to be lost in the maelstrom of public opinion. What will happen next? Will Meghan announce a second pregnancy?

And is the RF okay?

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MissEliza · 18/01/2020 18:06

The exclamation mark was an accident btw

MissEliza · 18/01/2020 18:08

@RUOK when I saw how well Harry, Wills and Kate got along, I thought the relationship was bound to go downhill no matter who Harry hooked up with.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 18/01/2020 18:08

I'm wondering if they've split up.
I hope not as would be sad, especially for Archie.
No one imagines getting divorced further down the line whilst your saying 'I do'.

CallmeAngelina · 18/01/2020 18:08

DeRigueurMortis has it! Grin

TheMustressMhor · 18/01/2020 18:14

Thank you RUOK for that very interesting, in-depth analysis of the current state-of-play and also what has gone before.

DeRigeurMortis is also spot on.

These threads have taken on a life of their own. It doesn't seem possible that eleven days ago nobody had an inkling about the bombshell which was about to be dropped.

And I reckon eleven days ago, Meghan had no idea that her carefully-crafted website would be generally ridiculed, and that she would be stuck in Canada with her baby and nanny, wearing leggings and baggy jumpers for so-called "engagements" - engagements which seem to have been undertaken merely as photo opportunities for herself.

What the fuck was she thinking?

Harry must be utterly horrified by the way this has played out. It was not what either of them envisaged, I am quite sure of that.

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Cindershasoddsocks · 18/01/2020 18:17

She wasn’t thinking

Grinchly · 18/01/2020 18:18

Another thing about Tom Bradby - he did the doc with Harry on his gap year in South America .

He has surely completely burned his boats re any royal family story now.

GlitchStitch · 18/01/2020 18:19

I really think the RF should have advised Harry to get Archie back on UK soil, at least until all this is resolved. Or maybe they did and he refused to listen. There's something a bit unsettling about it, I understand the point about this probably being their plan but it really seems to be like he's been held hostage.

strictlymomdancing · 18/01/2020 18:20

Imagine they got divorced and Harry played a blinder - taking her by surprise by serving divorce papers stating that they can happily co-parent on the condition that Archie resides in the UK and does not leave for holidays or whatnot without Harry's permission. That would royally (pun intended!) fuck up Meghan's plans for fame and fortune. Might damage the royal family reputation as she would play the victim but long term, as he's not taking Archie away from her or doing her any other harm, the victim tactic wouldn't succeed. This is my hope anyway but right now Meghan is clearly blackmailing Harry and the RF by keeping Archie very firmly in Canada.

CallmeAngelina · 18/01/2020 18:20

Harry must be utterly horrified by the way this has played out.

Depends what you mean by horrified. He should be embarrassed and ashamed in my opinion, but I suspect he might be so wife-struck, that he'll be furious that public opinion is seemingly so against their plans at the moment. But does he seriously expect to ride off into the sunset with an open cheque, pop back every now and again to cherry-pick a couple of his favourite charity events, and expect us all to fund his lavish lifestyle?

MarySidney · 18/01/2020 18:22

I'm wondering if they've split up.
I hope not as would be sad, especially for Archie.

If it wasn't for Archie, I'd say it was sad, but perhaps for the best. While stepping back as a senior royal might be the best thing for Harry, swapping a royal role, where he is to some extent protected, for the lifestyle of a minor celebrity, with no particular purpose in life, in N America, can't be a good idea. And I should think this is one of the things that is worrying HM and PC.

When they announced their engagement, I was glad Harry had found someone, because it was well known he wanted a family of his own. I really enjoyed the wedding and wished them well.

But I have very little goodwill left for Meghan. Rather I'm stuck on 'what the hell is she thinking??'

Lunde · 18/01/2020 18:23

Froq - ‘Prince Harry is spotted laughing and joking as he enjoys low-key dinner with friends in west London pub’

Have looked at the article and I think it's probably a good thing for H's mh that he has been able to get out of the bubble and enjoy a lads' night out.

It was also interesting that further down it stated
As well as splits between the Palace and Sussex households, friends claim that Harry and Meghan are themselves divided over where in Canada to settle down. The Duke is believed to be happy to continue living on the west coast near Vancouver, while his ex-actress wife is understood to favour Toronto, where she lived during her time filming Suits. 'Meghan has a lot of connections here. She finds it comfortable and believes it is somewhere they can develop new roles and pursue her interests,' a source told the Times.

This may be a reason of the negotiations are taking so long as H&M are not fully on the same page regarding what they want with H planning to "step down" and settle in a rural area to focus on mh + a few charity events while M wants the "next step" careerwise and to utilise contacts

The80sweregreat · 18/01/2020 18:23

What happens to babies that are taken abroad to live? He is a UK citizen as it stands , would his parents have to apply for a visa for him? (I've no idea how it works. )
Could he apply for citizenship when his 18 or whatever? Then he'd have duel citizenship.

CallmeAngelina · 18/01/2020 18:23

They asked for 6 weeks' sabbatical, which was happily granted. They must have been laughing at us all for being such naive fools, as Archie and the dogs were on the next plane, with no intentions of ever returning.

Butterymuffin · 18/01/2020 18:25

What would the position be, right now, if there was any dispute between Harry and Meghan about where Archie should live? As he's been born and lived in Britain till now, could Harry insist he returned there? If they were a 'normal' couple Shock what would the law say?

RUOK · 18/01/2020 18:27

Thank you WineorGin and sorry I got Tom Bradby's name wrong and that I didn't sign off with asking if everyone's ok? but hope my name pun lets me orf(sic)

Agree as a journalist TB is seriously compromised and have to say I am so not a fan of passive aggressive comments or veiled messages via Instagram etc. even if the Stone Roses track was someone else's choice, or an unfortunate accident Confused Also not a fan of how it seems M's people are canvassing charities for her to turn up and 'support' (via photo ops) As PPs have said proper due diligence should be done.

As the title of the thread is all about being OK the York sisters are the first to my mind. So far as I can tell they've both endured untold criticism and criticism by association with their parents and yet so far as we can see they support and love their family and wider family and are caring people. The disgrace their father has heaped upon the family whether by association or more sinister, must be both devastating and utterly embarrassing for them and yet they've remained dignified and carried on. I wonder what support they've received?

It's been said that HMQ would've been much more suited to life as a landed aristocrat free to manage a country estate and have a career with horses. That probably goes for PC, PW, PH and so on too, but they were born to their roles and are trying to carry them out .

With hindsight it's shame H didn't meet a lovely, grounded girl who was happy to go and live in Scotland or somewhere less accessible and found something of their own similar to the Prince's Trust for young artisans and spend half the year in Africa working with Sentable and other similar projects. They'd then be perfectly placed for the life he craved and to undertake southern hemisphere engagements on occasion.

Apologies, see the thread's moved on but am going to post anyway
@MissEliza can you expand on the bound to go downhill?

DeRigueurMortis · 18/01/2020 18:29

Tbh I'm not sure they are "horrified" by how this has turned out.

H&M seem to have convinced themselves that they are the victims in all this and the public/press response will probably cement that belief further and the fact they are "in the right".

They are clearly not in the mood to compromise and give zero fucks about anything other than getting what they want - irrespective of the cost.

I'm not the least bit surprised as such to see negotiations deadlocked. Simply because H&M aren't negotiating. They know what they want (a global platform and mega wealth) and think they can get it.

The biggest card I think they have to play isn't Archie, a way back for Harry, the RF being seen as vindictive or a tell all interview - it's that what happens here sets a precedent for Charlotte and Louis and no-one in the RF wants to punish these two children because their Uncle and his wife were money grabbing, entitled shits.

Ultimately who cares what people think of you when you've got £100m plus in the bank and access to the best PR money can buy to rebuild your "brand"?

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 18/01/2020 18:31

I'm finding myself wondering if they're "On A Break" and currently both competing in showing each other who's happiest via the press.

VivaLeBeaver · 18/01/2020 18:32

No longer going to be HRH. Also repaying the money used for the Frogmore cottage refurb.

colouringinpro · 18/01/2020 18:32

NEWSFLASH

No HRH titles, couple want to repay Sovereign Grant which paid for Frogmore refurb

colouringinpro · 18/01/2020 18:33

Viva Grin

HappyHarlot · 18/01/2020 18:33

H&M to lose HRH titles and public funds from spring say Buckingham Palace.

Grinchly · 18/01/2020 18:33

Boom! No HRh or royal titles

Butterymuffin · 18/01/2020 18:33

Really? That's more hardball than I expected from the Royals.

MrsBrentford · 18/01/2020 18:34

Wow - wondering how this is going to pan out for them ...

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