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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?

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TheMustressMhor · 17/01/2020 00:06

This is Thread Eight in a series which I did not imagine would last more than one.

Meghan's friends are now writing on social media that she has been fortunate to "escape the clutches" of the Royal Family.

We, who care enough for the Queen that we are appalled by Meghan's blatant disrespect for the Crown (and the family which embraced her) are still reeling as we go from revelation to revelation. This bizarre and unprecedented situation has unfolded over a period of just eight days.

We are now beginning to see what Meghan's likely agenda was. It seems that abandoning the UK was her plan even prior to the wedding - a wedding which cost the British people £20,000,000.

Not many people actually begrudged paying that £20,000,000. But some were prescient enough to say that the marriage would not last and that Meghan would abandon this country once she had a child.

She has. She has fulfilled those prognostications amply.

It was just rather...quicker than perhaps we had imagined...…. and a good deal more brutal. Cries of "racism" have abounded - cries which are simply not justified.

What will happen next? Meghan has gone to Canada, a country which does not seem particularly keen to foot the huge bill for security which her presence requires. She is dropping in on charities for disadvantaged women, almost unannounced, without the backing or knowledge of Buckingham Palace. It is cringeworthy and embarrassing in the extreme.

Prince Harry seems to be lost in the maelstrom of public opinion. What will happen next? Will Meghan announce a second pregnancy?

And is the RF okay?

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AutumnRose1 · 17/01/2020 01:23

I don’t believe Meghan wants to return
But will she have to for the case against the Mail? I don’t know if they sort that kind of things without parties present.

Happysummer2020 · 17/01/2020 01:25

Yea. I don't see Meghan ever setting foot on British soil (or allowing her son to return here)
It's a shame he won't grow up knowing his cousins. Particularly as they are a small select group who can share the experiences and stresses of being in a royal family.

I think its mean that shes taken that away from him.

willothewispa · 17/01/2020 01:41
  • Particularly as they are a small select group who can share the experiences and stresses of being in a royal family.

I think its mean that shes taken that away from him.*

I think it's mean that he won't know his cousins but he won't have those stresses will he, he's not going to be a royal. I wonder if that's why they said no title and gave him a non Royal name.

7salmonswimming · 17/01/2020 01:56

They can refuse all the titles in the world. Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor (FGS), HMQ’s great-grandson, future King’s grandson, subsequent King’s nephew, and first ‘blood’ cousin to the one after that...you think he’s not Royal? Will anyone allow him to lead a pleb’s life? Will he be able to? Would he want to?

I wouldn’t touch the RF with a barge pole

RonaldMcDonald · 17/01/2020 02:38

I think Meghan and Harry will return to work to support the Queen as discussed
I think she and they have been treated appallingly
I was horrified by the nonsense published over Frogmere
I do hope they are able to live happy fulfilling lives elsewhere- not simply standing around in a hamstrung, lifeless fashion like Edward
No one should be made to face what they have. They’ve handled it very well imo.
I wish them all the very best

RonaldMcDonald · 17/01/2020 02:43

Also - all these faceless sources telling us facts about H or M are by the vast majority made up by those absolute gaslighting bastards in the Mail etc
As if this would be the time they’d decide to break cover and say M had always planned to move back. Utter nonsense
Unless I hear it from them or read it in court documents I won’t believe it.
The press are horrifying

Happysummer2020 · 17/01/2020 02:49

I do hope they are able to live happy fulfilling lives elsewhere- not simply standing around in a hamstrung, lifeless fashion like Edward

Nonsense

They were provided with incredible privilege that none of us would experience in our lives. Dont make it sound like a raw deal.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 17/01/2020 03:00

Very balanced article by Rebecca English of the DM

Apparently he has always talked about wanting to leave the RF, but more to be a tour guide in the African bush.
Also very interesting is that he reads everything written about him; so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s been reading these very threads.

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/01/2020 03:01

Hope everyone's ok

HeadLikeAFuckinOrange · 17/01/2020 03:21

When regular Joe decides to sack off their family because their beloved Wife wishes demands it, they can always make up afterwards if when it all ends in tears.

With PH, he's of a far higher prominence than Regular Joe, so his choices are open season to be scrutinised.

Meanwhile, most of the country see this, I think!

Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?
nachthexe · 17/01/2020 03:44

Moose is right. It’s fucking gibbering here. I had a wee chortle yesterday at the idea of our Megs stuck inside while Vancouver ground to a halt. It was only -44 last night. The warmest place today was the ski hill which was warmer than the rest of the province at a balmy -22 because of a temperature inversion. Sadly I had to work.

Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?
nachthexe · 17/01/2020 03:45

I’m not ok bore. It’s chuffing freezing. Send blankets.

Moomin8 · 17/01/2020 03:47

Think we have been used.

Who is 'we'? 🧐

RonaldMcDonald · 17/01/2020 03:49

Afforded a privilege none of us were...

So what

If you don’t want or like it, it isn’t a privilege - it’s a problem
If when born you know your job is to stand around like a wax work until death you’d maybe feel very differently

It is him in his circumstances, she in her’s, they in their’s
It has funk all to do with what you think you’d do

He has served his country, is happy to continue to do so in a different way. One which may have more impact and allow those born into that circumstance to have a life they can bear
Seems brilliant

SpanishLady · 17/01/2020 03:52

There was nothing stopping Harry changing his life way before Meghan.

I am not underestimating being the queens grandson etc doesn't create restrictions etc but he isn't a prisoner - he could have easily, with some accommodations sure , before now become Harry wales/Windsor and had a career in the army or in wildlife conservation in Botswana or whatever

These were valid options - he could have been out of this years ago

SpanishLady · 17/01/2020 03:55

Ronald - you are preaching to the converted

No one on here anyway has a prob with his stepping back

It's the determination of it that has rankled - the suggestion by the website etc that he will serve if a) interests him enough 2) pays enough

RonaldMcDonald · 17/01/2020 04:07

I didn’t get that feel from the message on the website. My read was that they were boundarying what they would do going forward.

I think many of the RF should have done this aeons ago and they would have commanded greater respect and led happier and more productive lives.
I also think that it takes time to decide who you are and where your red lines lie. When he left the military it was to do what he had been born to do - be the spare and prop up William
I think were that decision to be made today he’d have stayed put

I don’t think this has been a rash decision or one made by the machinations of MM. This is a reasoned and reasonable step for the monarchy and for the Sussex family. In this regard although ghastly in every single regard perhaps the media helped clarify his thinking and resolve
I felt terribly sorry for what they had to deal with

Shaminon · 17/01/2020 04:20

I just want to say I feel sad about it all - I thought I didn't care but actually I do. I'm sorry for them both with all the horrible press, sorry that they don't spend time with William and his kids and sad that everything has broken down to this point. It's a real shame that Meghan has been so villified. Does anyone really set out to 'entrap' a prince and to then have them over a barrell with the threat of not allowing thei son to see family etc ? I just don't believe it.

I think it's probably a co dependent relationship, but I can't believe she's a social climbing witch who's stolen our princes. That seems to much.

I'm sad they couldnt generate the easy good will that Kate and William have. It all just feels like a shame and now, a bit of a rejection of is, the British people, to be honest. It's all quite tawdry and embarrassing really.

RonaldMcDonald · 17/01/2020 04:32

I don’t feel Kate and William enjoy easy good will
Not at all
I think kate is a faceless monarch-pod, accepted only because she is bland and thin - I hate feeling this way but this is the space this poor woman is allowed to occupy to prevent being hounded to death by the media
William seems humourless and largely work-shy.

I also see few signs of a codependent relationship in the Sussexes- I’d find it hard to make this assessment without knowing them. They seem like any normal couple.

SpanishLady · 17/01/2020 06:23

I simply don't know how long they have been thinking about it to be fair so as equally happy to accept it was not arrived at rashly etc as I am that it was decided over Christmas - we don't know for sure

So then why in communicating and enacting this reasonable proposal they do it unreasonably? It's jarred. That's the irritant for me - you want to do x - fine but why detract from that by the style in which you do it. For me, don't give interview etc just add it all up, decide sod this and work with the necessary people to go off and do what you want. Instead it's here's my reasonable proposal but I'm going to give it to you while shouting and slamming doors. (As an illustration to my point)

It goes back to the heart of it - there's merit to their proposal so delivery of it should be in the same vein instead lets bewilder the Queen for what seems no good reason.

Ronald's other points about you need to grow to necessary decide what you want to do in life - true - but what they propose is surely more of the same as now but with them getting cherry picking rights - is it not? He's not saying I don't want the royal life (charity work etc) he's saying I'll manage it so it all suits me better by which people are feeling means: premieres with Beyoncé rather than community centre in Cleethorpes - though again I do admit that's an interpretation not yet fact by seeing them in action once their new life begins

SpanishLady · 17/01/2020 06:32

It's prob just me but psychologically why this is topic is running and running has much about people's internal processing of what is fair as it is about literally engagement rings, websites etc.

If I want to reduce my days at work for instance my employer would accommodate me but there would be downsides to my upside - eg less days at work but then less money. Sometimes we might get all our own way and 'win' but actually usually there's compromise and a little give and take somewhere - the sense of 'Compromise doesn't apply to me' in this H&M case rankles as does the basic premise for most normal people that when all is said and done - however difficult the rules are or annoying the press all the up sides are too amazing to be able to really feel that sorry for them

StartupRepair · 17/01/2020 06:33

I think 20 months into a new role and a marriage is a really short time to decide that all the luxury and privilege does not make up for having to obey institutional rules. Clearly this was decided earlier given the dates of the trademark s, the company set up etc.
Whole thing appears very calculated under the surface narrative that the royal family and British public were mean to her.

RuffleCrow · 17/01/2020 06:39

No, OP, the Royal Family is not OK.

From the Queen practising Nazi salutes as a girl through to Diana being treated like a convenient & attractive accessory, through to Prince Andrew being best mates with an horrific sex offender. NONE OF THIS IS OK!

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 17/01/2020 06:47

Sources close to the Duke said that the royal team had no involvement in the choice of music, which had been suggested by the rugby league side of today’s event because it was ‘an anthem’ of the sport.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7895447/Dropping-hint-Harry-Meghan-Markle-release-video-final-engagement-senior-royal.html

RuffleCrow · 17/01/2020 06:54

Nice choice, Harry Grin. Awesome song. Which of course you had nothing to do with.