Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?

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This is Thread Eight in a series which I did not imagine would last more than one.

Meghan's friends are now writing on social media that she has been fortunate to "escape the clutches" of the Royal Family.

We, who care enough for the Queen that we are appalled by Meghan's blatant disrespect for the Crown (and the family which embraced her) are still reeling as we go from revelation to revelation. This bizarre and unprecedented situation has unfolded over a period of just eight days.

We are now beginning to see what Meghan's likely agenda was. It seems that abandoning the UK was her plan even prior to the wedding - a wedding which cost the British people £20,000,000.

Not many people actually begrudged paying that £20,000,000. But some were prescient enough to say that the marriage would not last and that Meghan would abandon this country once she had a child.

She has. She has fulfilled those prognostications amply.

It was just rather...quicker than perhaps we had imagined...…. and a good deal more brutal. Cries of "racism" have abounded - cries which are simply not justified.

What will happen next? Meghan has gone to Canada, a country which does not seem particularly keen to foot the huge bill for security which her presence requires. She is dropping in on charities for disadvantaged women, almost unannounced, without the backing or knowledge of Buckingham Palace. It is cringeworthy and embarrassing in the extreme.

Prince Harry seems to be lost in the maelstrom of public opinion. What will happen next? Will Meghan announce a second pregnancy?

And is the RF okay?

I also think the rumours are untrue. They are too easily checked.

I agree I think she was dazzled by the idea of being a princess and I have read numerous reports that the big fall out was over Windsor Castle (ie no way were they getting it). When she was plain old Duchess of Sussex opening community centres and standing on the back row of the balcony it all went sour and she'd had enough.

I think foofstruck sums up Harry and his dilemma pretty well.

Hello everyone, I've been following all the various threads quietly being interested in everyone's comments, observations and suppositions whilst being well aware there is also misinformation and scurrilous rumours out there and anyone can put almost anything on the internet.

I'm trying to compose my own thoughts without resorting to novel like proportions but meanwhile have name changed so I have the whole thread covered

Yes @AuntieStella
I agree. Let's not get this pulled.

I have really enjoyed these threads, but am concerned that they are descending into frequent posts repeating the very worst unfounded internet rumours.

I agree.

From MM's perspective I can appreciate that life in the UK would be pretty dull compared with her previous existence.

And a move to Africa would be even duller for her I imagine.

Yes some of the rumours being discussed are ridiculous. Of course there was no other secret marriage, for example.

I've just listened to the interview Dan Wootton did with Samantha Markle on Talk Radio. I've never heard her speak before, only read reports on what she said. I was surprised how articulate and smart she sounded, she's a good speaker. I've read loads of really derogatory stuff about her class, background, intelligence etc so expected something very different!

Yes, the yacht girl/previous child/ previous marriage things are all internet rumours that I think are nonsense. That sort of thing would have swiftly come out when they were just dating if true.
I don’t think we should be perpetuating this sort of rumour. Fine to focus on the problems, and the impact on this country and the monarchy, but these rumours are totally unsubstantiated.

I understood her education had been paid for by a lottery win? I suppose I'm thinking that if money was short for periods during her growing up that might explain her relationship with it now. Cherie Blair was a bit the same, greedy.

I’m sorry about the Philip rumours and I am so embarrassed that I am not OK.

Will no one think of Louis? Not even the spare.

There are enough genuine reasons to have reservations about her without people making stuff up.

Agreed.

I also wouldn't be surprised if there is some fudgy announcement - exactly echoing the Sussexroyal stuff - agreeing to bankroll everything until they are financially independent, which they expect to be "soon". And they'll hope we'll all forget to keep an eye on the bank statement.

Unfortunately I suspect you are correct.

Aside from security, I truly don't understand why they feel the need to monetise themselves, even for a supposed foundation. There have been 'barefoot' philanthropists, people with wealth who live a paired down existence but speak authoritatively on issues about poverty and conservation. They have millions between them, why can't they do that?

Why can't they live quietly in Canada in a modestly plush home, dressed in non-designer clothes and use their influence to raise awareness of the issues they want? MM went to the womens' shelter in her leggings jumper and boots, why can't she continue in the same vein? What's with the need to raise ton's of dough and have a perfectly curated lifestyle? They started married life in a 2 bed cottage.

Many far less famous celebrities have done similar.

I don't know how H was persuaded away from his 'getting stuck in and dirty' with projects and animal welfare in Botswana to corporate marketing of brand Sussex?

The won’t want to slum it - got to keep up with the Clooneys haven’t they?

You know, the more I think about this, the more I think there's an agenda here we have no clue about.

What they're doing and how they're going about it doesn't make sense.

There is a very interesting piece in the Telegraph today by Anna Pasternak. She has written a book on the Duchess of Windsor and was looking at the parallels with Meghan and, in this article, between the Duke of Windsor and Harry. After he had abdicated and was living in France, the Duke was lost. He had nothing to do and was reduced to bumbling around after Wallis bugging her.

I'm sure Harry can find a few projects to involve himself with, but he is potentially in the dodgy position of being stuck in Canada with Meghan's circle and advisers and just being wheeled out as "the Prince" when required.

Why can't they live quietly in Canada in a modestly plush home, dressed in non-designer clothes and use their influence to raise awareness of the issues they want?

They could do much the same in the UK actually. The media would eventually lose interest in them and move on to someone else.

There was a lottery win I think too though I don’t know when and I think it was later in life - but I have read that she was in the private system from the beginning. I think being an actress and the feast and famine element of it is what has made her so keen on cash. Or financial security anyway. Your acting job can always end. It took her a looooonnnggg time to get in Suits. Her father is not in great financial shape and you don’t want to go from Suits to a flat in Mexico. She has to keep up with the and the Elton Johns of this world now! She does not want to be sliding backwards! She wouldn’t have married Prince Harry if he were a nice Army Captain she met in a bar in London. she’d be with Ashley Cole

I’m glad Phil isn’t dead.

I imagine him bringing a sound voice of reasoning in all of this.

Charles: mummy, H&M would like £35 million to buy a house.

Liz: hmmmm, let me get the aides to look into this.

Phil: WHAT? Tell them to fuck off! I don’t even know who the fuck they are!

‘Prince Harry is spotted laughing and joking as he enjoys low-key dinner with friends in west London pub’

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7902447/Prince-Harry-spotted-laughing-joking-enjoys-low-key-dinner-friends-west-London-pub.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small#article-7902447

I wonder when he’ll return to his wife and baby. Or if he’s waiting for them to return to the UK? All very strange.

I used to look at Harry when he was in company with W & K and think how easily they all got on and how nice it would be for H when he met his 'one' so I put misgivings about M's background as a foreign actress from a dysfunctional family to one side and thought they looked happy so good for them. I'll clarify what I mean by that in a moment.

I was nonplussed that she said she knew nothing of him before, that seemed highly unlikely, but I thought that despite her background, being from a very different world, she'd be equipped to do the public appearances, to be confident, or at least appear to be, speak well and seem interested and that they'd have a good relationship and a very good life together when they were off duty.

As it turns out, it seems the most successful royal wives are women who have a good idea of how the royal firm works and who are prepared to be bland and not want the limelight, rather learn that day's job and let the focus be on the charity or event they're there to spotlight.

We don't know any of these people or what they're really like in their downtime, but I would have thought HMQ, Camilla, Catherine, Sophie, Anne and Zara would all be pleased to see H happy and settled and be supportive. The York sisters too. All of them have put up with negative press and media at some stage, some deserved and some not. Of late, the younger Yorks would probably really welcome mutual support. Something must've gone badly wrong for M & H to reject the protection of the family at large.

I read the Rebecca English piece off the back of these threads and it made me sad and sorry, which sums up how I feel about the whole debacle, although it makes me quite cross as well. Harry seemed an absolute natural and Sentebale his big role in life. I can't believe he's been reading all the press about him and the comments 'below the line' as Rebecca says, that way surely madness lies. No wonder someone's mental health is compromised. Surely his people must've counselled against that? Seems it's not only M who doesn't listen and it must be of great concern to PC and PW how H has seemed to withdraw from all his former friends.

I do think the interview with Tom Bradbury was when my opinion turned and can imagine how M's comments went down with senior royals and palace officials. It's really not done to put oneself first and that's where I was concerned about the clash of backgrounds and culture. For M it seems being a new fiance, a new bride and a breath of fresh air was desirable, but having delivered the baby and having to settle for the grind palled very quickly. I use the word 'grind' very loosely.

I think it's all very strange and unhealthy and can't see it ending in anything but disaster. A scaling down of senior royal public life is perfectly possible but would need to follow the Duchess of Kent model IMO.

Sorry that was really long

There were rumours a while back that her “stylist” Jessica Mulroney was getting clothes for free for Meghan, and Charles Office was still being billed for them and Meghan and Jessica were splitting and picketing the cash.

I remember reading that blind and thinking “no way”. I couldn’t imagine MM defrauding Charles like that, but more importantly, I couldn’t imagine her needing or wanting the cash that much.

Now it’s clear that she does indeed want to rake in as much cash as she can, I’m starting to think it was true.

I still think the RF have missed an opportunity in not getting Princess Anne to lead negotiations .

Not only because she's awesome and takes no shit but as the daughter of the monarch and sibling to the future monarch she's one of very few people that when H turns on the waterworks and says "boo hoo nobody knows how hard it is for meeee" can say "fuck orf you silly, whinging, entitled little prick" and rap his knuckles with her riding crop.

Good points RUOK

I too have wondered about the York girls - they seem nice enough & must have really struggled with the adverse publicity about PA.

surely PH must be aware that he isn’t the only royal with problems?

Very little has been said about Tom Bradby. I think he's been utterly compromised as a journalist by the way he's let himself be used as a mouthpiece. Moreover he's proven to be a rubbish journalist by wholeheartedly accepting one side's version of events. It's ironic for the RF actually as they'd started to favour ITV as they'd had some tiffs with BBC.!