Harry and Meghan resigning Act 5 *MNHQ edited title*

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I’m not the original OP of the series. That credit must go to @TheMustressMhor
I just stepped in when the last thread filled up with no replacement

There is still an appetite for discussion / gossip depending on your POV.
I asked for MN to put it in the Royal Family topic as the subject is no longer headline news; but still ticking along. I think those people who are interested will find it and add their comments regardless of its location.

How did the Frogmore Cottage renovations soak up £2.4 million, out of interest? It's a 4 bedroom house, apparently. I appreciate it's probably got some nice bits in it and a bit of underpinning, but still.

Catching up as been put all day....so haven't got through all the posts yet. But just want to reiterate. These are NOT young people. They are both middle aged and very experienced in life. Posters who keep referring to them as a young couple, young mum etc etc you are labelling them as something they are not - and giving them a vulnerability they do not have.

It is also over 20 years since Harry was that young boy walking behind the coffin. To be blunt, by now, he will have learned to live with it. My parents both lost family members at a young age in traumatic situations. They had to learn to live with it and their lives were not full of luxury and endless f money.

I think she has something else of his in her hand

Thought she was getting (or should get) the very grand Frogmore House?

I just googled Frogmore House. Now, that's a front door.

@fallen121
Well at least you probably have some basic manners, unlike Meghan.

If they've not been living in Frogmore all this time, where have they been living since they got married?

Lady Diana was much more connected and posher than the Royals I read somewhere.
She would have had many many threads on here if the Internet had been around in the 80s!

Surely Charles can fund it in Canada from the £20 million + income generated by The Duchy Of Cornwall ?

Charles is already reportedly bleating at H that he's not got a bottomless wallet and in any case he's noted for passing every expense he can to the public purse. Can't see him sticking his paw into his own pocket if he can help it.

Agree with PP that the Duchies should become part of the Crown Estate. It would be far easier to hold the royal finances to account if they did.

I went to a prestigious private school and the same University as Kate.

I wouldn't have a CLUE how to behave in Royal circles.

I never really thought about it before but with all this going on (and my brand new expertise in the Royal Family having watched all 3 series of the Crown), it strikes me more and more that Kate must be an incredible mix of determination, stability, calmness, warmth, grit, resilience and confidence. Plus the humility to learn a ton of new stuff and just get on with it no matter how ridiculous it might seem. Plus she has incredible hair!

When were Kate and William gifted Anmer Hall by the Queen? I seem to think it was when they got married.

Am I right in thinking Harry and Meghan didn't get anything similar - just the grace and favour right to live at Frogmore Cottage?

Kate never puts a foot wrong, she’s incredible.

Am I right in thinking Harry and Meghan didn't get anything similar

Why should they? Harry has been bumped so far down the line of succession he will never get there.

He and his wife are nobodies

None of the other grandchildren of the Queen were given a house?

Other than William and Kate

But I think that is the type of thing which will have really annoyed Harry. That he is somehow less than William.

Strawberry, from wiki:

"In 2019, the house was converted into a 4-bedroom & nursery, single-family home, at a reported cost from the Sovereign Grant of £2.4 million "of taxpayer-funded costs, royal accounts show", according to a BBC report."

He is less than William. He needs to get over it.

I think the briefcase contains PH's bollocks. Wonder how much it'll cost for him to get the combination code for the lock?

But I think that is the type of thing which will have really annoyed Harry. That he is somehow less than William.

Constitutionally he is.

Diana apparently wanted to bring them up downplaying the spare to the heir element. That doesn't seem to have ended well given Harry's arrogant grandstanding.

Leighhalfpennysthigh

Such an important point.

I have been thinking (too much) about this. One of the interesting issues to consider is the consequence of the fact the Princes were insulated from press coverage as children after their mother died. Can we say that they had a relatively easy ride in their twenties? Possibly. I admit I haven't kept up with much of the day to day. They will remember a 'before' and 'after' period.

My point is, the coverage of Meghan now probably is "triggering" for Harry because it brings him back to when his mother was alive. His default must be: where will this go next???? following one bad article. Even though I don't agree the situation has been comparable in scale. Not at all. There was a period of time after their engagement when Meghan looked set to very much upstage Kate. Lots of positive coverage, which seems to have slipped the minds of many people. It may be that that sort of fawning is what Harry would consider 'normal reporting' for his wife.

What was a protective - and appropriate in the context - press policy when Harry was growing up now of course would be classed as deferential. Inappropriately deferential. Wildly ridiculous when this person is running his own office within Buckingham Palace and feels emboldened to issue orders regarding his relationship vis a vis the state (and it would appear another sovereign nation, Canada) on a privately set up website.

The press has a legitimate interest in this pair, end of. No way can they pick and choose what journos they're going to deal with. But I do think this issue may be what underpins the expectations gap.

Kate is amazing but I still think her mum had a lot to do with it. Aim high and she brought them up to be ladies!! People may criticise this approach but it worked. She seems to be the driving force, plus Kate has an iron will too I bet. Maybe William spent a few years briefing her about things as well.
She isnt totally perfect as nobody is, but she's nearly perfect at her job and that is an achievement.
I'd like to think she kicks back at home as everyone needs to to.
I would never be friends with her as I'd find her too intimidating to be that great and look that good all the time even with her resources and help and money etc etc. She is just someone who could look good in a sack!

IIRC, Serena, Oprah and the Clooneys became friendly with Meghan after she started dating Prince Harry. Unlike her friends like Jessica Mahoney and Scottie from Suits.

The draw for the former group would surely be the cache of being friends with royals, and somewhat being part of the inner circle of a long-standing British institution with its history, jewels and beautiful castles. They were ‘couples’ friends with her, not her individually.

With Harry’s royal star fading and him being effectively the disgraced/flounced/isolated/estranged (chose your adjective) prince, the draw isn’t so huge.

If they've not been living in Frogmore all this time, where have they been living since they got married?

They used to rent a place near Soho Farmhouse in Oxfordshire