Harry and Meghan resigning Act 5 *MNHQ edited title*

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I’m not the original OP of the series. That credit must go to @TheMustressMhor
I just stepped in when the last thread filled up with no replacement

There is still an appetite for discussion / gossip depending on your POV.
I asked for MN to put it in the Royal Family topic as the subject is no longer headline news; but still ticking along. I think those people who are interested will find it and add their comments regardless of its location.

I think the U.K. taxpayer will end up paying simply because the government just cannot take the risk of something happening. It will do nothing to endear either the 'Sussexes' or the RF to the public though.

If Meghan is in Canada what power do the English courts have to make her appear as a witness if she isn't physically present in the country?

I would find it astonishing if she refused to support a case she herself has bought to court!

They'd gained so much goodwill from the Africa trip and then self destructed I'm very cynical. The Africa trip was just a backdrop to the Tom Bradby (what an uttter fool he is) interview all the poor me stuff.
Diana was very manipulative but at heart she did want to help people. For Meghan, other people are just tools to be used. It's not that she is evil. It's just the way she is probably due to a difficult childhood.

Singinglily that is very interesting. Its a technicality but if she isn’t, I don’t think she can outside of the UK.

but if she doesnt come to court, in a case she has brought herself, is she not in contempt? I have no idea, but it would be bloody weird to make everyone else get gussied up in their wigs and robes, produce mountains of paperwork and think 'nah fuck it, I'll go to Krispy Kreme instead?!"

DulciUke that’s it, thank you

Will Harry and Meghan have to fund their own security outside UK?

I think this is one of the most significant questions of the ‘resignation” both from a financial and security POV.

With Royal weddings, the biggest cost is the security, to protect the general public from nutters as well as the Royals.
As Meghan and Harry Sussex are highly unlikely to be doing overseas tours or basically anything with a walkabout perhaps this cost will probably be reduced compared to if they’d stayed full time royals.

Also as they don’t like to announce many of their visits in advance (even when in the RF) perhaps close Protection is all they need.

Can the case go ahead if she’s not there?

although its a title by marriage, not an honour like an OBE.

I just can’t see the case reaching court, it would be an incredible disaster.

But then thinking about all of the headlines that’ll come from it, in turn producing more money for the paper, I also don’t see any incentive for them to settle.

I would find it astonishing if she refused to support a case she herself has bought to court!

I think it will somehow be settled beforehand, some face saving statement for both sides will be issued, I just can't see Meghan wanting to return to the UK for the case.

although its a title by marriage, not an honour like an OBE.

Yes, good point, Notmoresheep. In that case, I'm not at all sure if the same Constitutional restrictions apply.

Can the case go ahead if she’s not there?

It's a civil case, not a criminal one, so yes.

I would find it astonishing if she refused to support a case she herself has bought to court!

I would NOT find it astonishing. She has absolutely no concept of the impact her actions have on others.

I also don't think the DM will settle. If they thought they were going to have any chance of losing they would have settled by now, with some huge donation to MM's pet charity.

There are pages and pages of rebuttal evidence. This could be the journalistic scoop of the century. ESPECIALLY if MM ends up being found in contempt.

ah...Well I expect she’ll claim that she can’t get a fair trial then! Or more accurately her friends will leak it to the papers...

Good points curly. I'm sure Charles could fund close protection during the 'transition' but not sure he should fund it for life, if H and M want to be self employed!

I would find it astonishing if she refused to support a case she herself has bought to court!

If she did I cannot see how she could ever come back here and expect any kind of respect again. Burning bridges to absolute ashes. But this is how personality disordered people behave, they turn their backs on consequences and eventually reach a place where they can't escape anymore. I don't know if this is that place for her or not though. She may be able to spin her way out of it.

For the pp who said the picture of H&M had been removed from Windsor station, apparently it was removed for cleaning. It was covered in pigeon poop. Also, as it was made of Lego; quite a few bricks had been stolen.

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It seems some understand the legalities better than me, so please can anyone answer what happens about the RF's reported wish for them to do only "suitable" commercial activities?

Or in other words, what happens if they take on something which blows Buck House's minds? Short of witholding any funding, could the RF actually oblige someone to stop doing something in another country?

Singinglily ordinarily MM would have to be here for a given time before applying for ILR. After that, nationalisation. I think she can still do this if her British husband works overseas and she has to reside with him, and I don’t suppose there’s legal precedent for Duchy workplace restrictions so anything could happen. There’ll be a way to fudge it so it works for them. But post Brexit when people who’ve lived here for decades are under threat of separation and deportation from their British born families its highly crass for them to do this now. The whole thing could well end up stinking to high heaven, despite the glowing “good luck hun, fly free” sycophants on Insta.

@joyfullittlehippo

Please explain how repeating something which was widely reported in the national and international press, who had evidence to back up their assertions, is "making false reports"?

In response to you stating Thomas Markle had lied about having heart surgery, I linked a DM article from December 2018, which stated it had been proven that he was telling the truth. It carried evidence in the form of discharge papers and invoice from the hospital for his stay. Other publications then stated he had been telling the truth.

They did not have evidence to back up your assertion that he was lying. They do have evidence, which they published, confirming he was telling the truth.

If I had stated what you had and then been provided with a link proving what I'd said wasn't true, I would backtrack and apologise. You, however, haven't done so.

I don't understand why you haven't done that. It just means that your future posts will lack credibility if you aren't prepared to backtrack. The press may have incorrectly stated originally that he hadn't had heart surgery at that time but they backtracked and admitted their error. Why can't you? Why continue to criticise someone who was telling the truth?

Whatever else Thomas Markle may have done, if anything, he didn't lie about his heart attacks and heart surgery.

I also don't think the DM will settle

Neither do I, for two reasons.

The first is that the DM and the MOS pride themselves on their investigative journalism - the more controversial the better - and exhaustively research for this reason. If they were to back away from a high profile case like this one (which, after all, they didn't seek. MM made that decision), they would lose face.

The second lies in the background, simmering. H&M wanted to withdraw from the Royal rota - the media arrangement that shares out press coverage fairly with a requirement for the attending journalist and photographer to share with other news outlets. H&M wanted only to engage with the journalists they liked, ie the ones who would file on,y favourable articles. There is utter fury among journalists right across all of the newspapers and television channels about this because it is seen as a slur on all of them, on their professional standards.

H&M really have managed to make unnecessary enemies of the UK media.

I honestly just wish both of them would disappear and shut up for life. It's exhausting and toxic. Somehow I am drawn into the debate because I can't quite believe all this has happened in such a short space of time. From a psychological perspective it is fascinating, but it sure is exhausting.

I really don’t see how MM can win the case given the evidence that is coming out. Associated Newpapers have played the defamation game many, many times before (no shit ) Their lawyers and board would not have allowed it to get to this stage unless their case was tight. It would be a very costly gamble otherwise, in terms of reputation as well as financially.