Harry and Meghan resigning Act 4: the Price of Freedom.....?

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So the saga continues
Thé Canadians are not happy about paying for the Sussexes security

I think that will be their downfall. They can’t actually fund the cost of their «freedom»
Other security experts saying that the cost of 24/7 private security is about £4million per year.

Problem is; they have skipped the a Royal fold, and have to pay the real cost of their security and accommodation . They will have to sell every aspect of their Lives to fund this.

Sarah Fergusson tried to 'make her own money' and lord only knows where she has actually done this. It never looked - well, 'dignified' did it? (flogging diets and plagiarized kids books).

I'm so very tired of every remotely negative opinion being labelled as "hatred". It's just so Twitter isn't it?

Indeed. One can only imagine they have sheltered lives and live in areas with no crime. Living in a part of London where my friends son was stabbed at 11 and subsequently spent 4 years off school and stuck indoors out of fear, I find the use of the term hatred simply for describing someone in less than saintly terms not just hysterical, but quite distasteful.

Why are posters calling for this to be in the Royal Family section - wherever that is? You see I have never been there and many more will be in the same position, I think.

This belongs right here. This is not mindless tittle tattle about dresses, and only dresses, on pain of banishment; this is topical and newsworthy if anything is, for heaven’s sake!

Why on earth should it not be here where it can get most footfall?

@cheezy

just how is that video clip In any way rude??!

She’s giving him a little nudge to say ‘hey we’ve gotta be over there now honey’. I really don’t understand the mindset of some people on here. It’s putting me off MN frankly which takes some doing.
No, that is not what is happening.
Meghan is rude because she keeps turning her back on the public. She should be facing the crowd and ready to sing the National Anthem.
Harry has clearly already told her to face the front but she then forgets and turns back around to speak to him. He, clearly irritated, tells her "look" and "turn round".

She is obviously put out by this but he is just guiding her (perhaps not as pleasantly as he could as there isn't time) to follow protocol.

I bet they had 'words' about this later.

I'm so very tired of every remotely negative opinion being labelled as "hatred".

It goes:

Step 1. Racism card - how dare you comment on a person of colour.

Step 2. Sympathy card - come on, she’s a woman/just had a baby/he’s suffering, leave them alone.

Before ending with step 3. Ugh you’re such haters, get a life.

Yawn

Calls for it to be moved are just a not subtle way of trying to end the conversation. Very controlling really.

I felt a bit for Meghan on the balcony tbh, I wondered if Archie was back there, he was very tiny at that point.

She had access to resources and advisors who could instruct her etiquette at such occasions. She allegedly refused all advice. I just think its arrogant to join an institution like the RF and not even make the tiniest effort to adapt. The wrong move could cause great offence to the people who you are supposed to serve, clearly though for some people it's not really about the british public who are just an inconvenience getting in the way of the lifestyle they feel they are entitled to (and I would include PA in that statement too).

The press and regular people on social media aren't holding back from this point forward. I don't envy them but all they had to do was lay low, or agree with the rest of the family how to best leave without causing so much drama.

The balcony thing, just shows that Harry can be less than pleasant. We've usually only seen the lad side of him, immature but fun. This is different. Also the alleged animal cruelty - www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308528/Prince-Harry-faces-animal-cruelty-claim-polo-ponys-stab-wound-spur.html from a decade ago. That wouldn't have come up on social media now if people weren't really annoyed at how H&M have turned on the royal family and flounced.

I don't know... they just seem to be acting like a couple of starry eyes teen newlyweds.

I totally understand that they just want it to be 'just our little family' - they are still relatively newlywed and new parents after all - but come on, you know what you are in for (either marrying int the family or being in the family and getting married).

But they aren't teens - they are pushing 40 and have both been engaged/married/had jobs/paid rent (well she has).

Time to grow up but running away from home isn't it.

I did feel a bit for her on the balcony but she wasn't up there for a chat with her husband and it wasn't like it was her first time there either. Also, Americans sing their national anthem a lot more than we do so she have been familiar with the routine.

Cheesy The clip in Westminster Abbey is rude because he was talking to people who had performed at the service. She had gone down that line very quickly and hardly spoken if you see the full footage. He bothers to take the time to speak, to make them feel valued, and she interrupts him. Given he has been doing these events for a very long time, he knows what the form is and can judge when he needs to move on.

@astralweaks

Why are posters calling for this to be in the Royal Family section - wherever that is?

Why on earth should it not be here where it can get most footfall?

1. What is the point of MNHQ setting up the categories if they aren't going to be used properly?
2. The thread title doesn't have an AIBU question in it.
3. This section isn't called 'Topical and Newsworthy' - it's called AIBU.

I felt for her on the balcony too. But I don't buy into this whole Harry is so amazing thing either.

He could have smiled - I would have felt like crying if I was her too.

But I don't buy into this whole Harry is so amazing thing either.

Me neither. I also find the constant excuses related to his attitude or behaviour because 'his Mum died' really irritating. William's mother died too. And as someone who also suffered bereavement as a child I don't think it's an excuse to be a brat as an adult.

Meghan is rude because she keeps turning her back on the public. She should be facing the crowd and ready to sing the National Anthem.

Yeah, that's how I saw it. I think she was upset (and I agree, did feel for her there because we all make mistakes and all know that horrible, trying not to cry feeling) because she knew he was properly annoyed at her. He's cross because she's being disrespectful.

Its a job surely. You learn your lines, hit your mark and stick to the plan.

SirChing Tue 14-Jan-20 12:52:35
Apologies if I have missed someone else discussing the security thing, but if one of us received death threats, we wouldn't be expected to fund our own police. Salman Rushdie didn't have to find his when there was a Fatwa on him. So I am unsure why, just because they are rich, H & M have to fund their own security. Don't we use our police to keep foreign royals and politicians safe here?

Unless a woman is threatened by their ex-husband or boyfriend. There have been a lot of tragedies where the police just ignored the threat.

But they aren't teens - they are pushing 40 and have both been engaged/married/had jobs/paid rent (well she has).
He was 35 in September so not pushing 40. He has 5 years left before then.
He has not been engaged before.
He hasn't been married before.
He hasn't had a job has he? (Only the military).
I doubt he's paid rent either.

Sorry if this is has already been done as haven't read the whole thread but personally I feel sorry for Archie and any further children. Realistically he is not going to spend v much time in the U.K. and will not have a close relationship with any of his fathers family - and her family except her mother are a bunch of crackpots.

That's going to be an interesting conversation in 13 / 14 years time - I'm a member for a royal family and you turned your back on them ?

Noteverything Last time I looked, being in the military is a job...at least it was for df, dfil, dh, and is for db and dn.

Meghan is rude because she keeps turning her back on the public. She should be facing the crowd and ready to sing the National Anthem.

Yeah, that's how I saw it. I think she was upset (and I agree, did feel for her there because we all make mistakes and all know that horrible, trying not to cry feeling) because she knew he was properly annoyed at her. He's cross because she's being disrespectful.

I wouldn’t go as far as saying she was being rude, I think it’s unintentional. But ultimately they do these balcony things so people can see them. You can’t see them if they have their back to you. Also the anthem was imminent. Harry having ‘trained’ to be royal knows all this, as does everyone on the balcony. As the newest royal, she made a mistake. Ultimately though, I wonder if she thinks the rules don’t apply. Whereas Harry knows they do and the monarchy and popularity of the monarchy can fall at any point.

The press and regular people on social media aren't holding back from this point forward. I don't envy them but all they had to do was lay low, or agree with the rest of the family how to best leave without causing so much drama
I think the Press have gone way over the top now. Bloody hell the Mail was saying Harry asking if Meghan could have a job with Disney was the worst crisis since the abdicatio! Shows how seriously they thought Andrew consorting with paedophiles was then! I have defended them in the past, mainly because I think Harry has been given a free pass in this, but the 7th in line to the Throne stepping down and moving to another country is hardly high treason! This is more about Harry suing the Mirror while Piers Morgan was editor and Meghan suing the Mail. They've whipped it all up into a hysterical drama.Who really cares, over and above it being some juicy gossip!

I went off Harry a lot when he showed up to a fancy dress party dressed as a nazi , although I also questioned the people around him for letting him out the palace wearing it as well. Again , he was more or less supported because ' he was only young and silly and had lost his mum'
We've all been young and silly , but that was totally stupid and disrespectful.
There were allegations of him smoking weed years ago ( not sure if he did or not ) and I read on mumsnet he called someone in the army names , but I didn't know about any of that before so not sure what that was about.

Then the naked snooker in Vegas : again why nobody stopped him is beyond me and it just made him look immature. I know I sound an old gimmer but someone should really have pulled him up on these things at the time! I'm not saying don't have fun but if it's going to end up on the front of the Sun it's better to think twice.
Again this is all 'ok' because, because , because etc etc. He was always ' good ole Harry, people's prince '. I feel sorry he lost his mum and it was awful , but it also seemed to give him a bit of a pass from being reprimanded for the really stupid things that went on.
He has been good with his charity work , Invictus games and other projects but that was part of his job.