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Harry and Meghan resigning Act 4: the Price of Freedom.....?

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 14/01/2020 07:23

So the saga continues
Thé Canadians are not happy about paying for the Sussexes security

I think that will be their downfall. They can’t actually fund the cost of their «freedom»
Other security experts saying that the cost of 24/7 private security is about £4million per year.

Problem is; they have skipped the a Royal fold, and have to pay the real cost of their security and accommodation . They will have to sell every aspect of their Lives to fund this.

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Butterymuffin · 14/01/2020 14:09

And Andrew is of course persona non grata now so can't pick up the slack.
Someone has posted the yearly number of engagements done by each royal on a previous thread. Can anyone repost that or link to it?

LittleSweet · 14/01/2020 14:10

Independent living doesn't mean you accept money from the Canadian government for your security!
Although the Queen and Prince Andrew must be relieved that this fiasco has taken the spotlight off Andrew and Epstein.

Guacamole · 14/01/2020 14:11

When HMQ dies. The Duchy of Cornwall will pass on to William. So William will decide how much money from it goes to Harry and Meghan.

HairyToity · 14/01/2020 14:14

I dont think Meghan gets 'British' for example she will have put Harry up for asking about voice over work with Disney
This might be fine in America but we're a bit more reserved. I hope they work their issues out. They are hugely famous and I am sure they will find ways of monetising this.

With regards to protection, I don't mind paying, as Harry didn't ask to be born into Royal Family. Its part and parcel of having future king as your dad. Perhaps they could contribute 20% of costs.

MsPepperPotts · 14/01/2020 14:15

This thread should be in the Royal Family Section

Moomin8 · 14/01/2020 14:15

By the time William controls the Duchy of Cornwall I very much doubt there will even be a Harry & Meghan. They'll be long divorced...

scaryteacher · 14/01/2020 14:15

Fraggot I raised an eyebrow at that one at the time. So rude.

Jocasta2018 · 14/01/2020 14:16

All Duchy Originals profits go to charitable causes. It is a completely separate entity from the Duchy of Cornwall from which Prince Charles gets his income.

scaryteacher · 14/01/2020 14:22

The other thing that struck me as deliberately rude, though I was shot down for saying so at the time, was what MM wore to the christening of Prince Louis. Every other female there was in cream, or a blue of some sort. Same for the suits of the men. MM wore khaki, which said it all really. Not hard to follow a dress code with her sort of money if asked.

botanicalart · 14/01/2020 14:22

I wonder how William feels about Meghan trying to play Diana. Placed in the same shoes, it would make me rather uncomfortable and angry.

MoonbeamsAndCaterpillars · 14/01/2020 14:22

I don't think anyone can seriously deny that some of the British press has treated MM appallingly and that some of it did smack of thinly veiled racism... That is definitely how I saw it.

However, the pair of them really haven't come across well lately and it's all been their own words and actions. I think even those of us who really like MM and supported H&M as a couple have started to go off them now. I have to say I have and I was a huge fan of MM when they got married and in the run up to the wedding. I was outraged at how she was treated by the press etc.

I don't even hold what's happened now against her tbh. From her perspective, I imagine she just thinks it's been a bit of an unpleasant way to spend your first years of marriage and wants to get away from it all. I can't blame her. But I think H has made some huge blunders. This sounds mean and maybe it is, but I think he's got all the bluster and desire to be independent, hates the press, has mixed feelings about the little people public, wants to go it alone etc but he doesn't have the smarts or talent to make a big success of it... Maybe I'll be proved wrong. At least MM has lived in the 'real' world...ok, it's Hollywood, so not really, but she isn't a born royal, so maybe she'll help him adjust.

Paying for security etc is going to be a tricky one. I don't imagine they could refuse to have it even if they wanted to.

The pp who made the comment that "we wouldn't be expected to pay for our own protection from the police" though...Hmm. It's nothing alike. Have you had to call the police lately? They don't sent 24 officers round to guard your house, even if you've been threatened directly.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 14/01/2020 14:26

maybe you have a different opinion of what amounts to hate than others. Maybe if you want it less twitter, people should stop relying on twitter as a "source".

I don't use it. The shrieks of "hatred" for the comments that were usually just mild disagreement drove me away Smile. The word "hatred" as it is currently used on SM is losing its power and for me it's use is a good indication that I need not take the person using it at all seriously because whether they realise it or not they are attempting to control the discussion by shaming and forcing the person disagreeing with them into a position of defending themselves from displaying supposed "hatred" rather than continuing a useful discussion. I dismiss immediately anyone who uses it as I will your posts.

JeansNTees · 14/01/2020 14:27

@vikkimoog It isn't the one I originally saw but you'll get the gist of it. Not as good an angle though

MoonbeamsAndCaterpillars · 14/01/2020 14:30

What is going on in that video please? Is she upset because PA is there or what?

cheezy · 14/01/2020 14:30

@scaryteacher just how is that video clip In any way rude??!

She’s giving him a little nudge to say ‘hey we’ve gotta be over there now honey’. I really don’t understand the mindset of some people on here. It’s putting me off MN frankly which takes some doing.

MyBlueMoonbeam · 14/01/2020 14:33

I gave it 3 years right from the start - MM was so obviously fake - all about herself

DeRigueurMortis · 14/01/2020 14:36

What I find interesting is the press commentary that H&M have "won".

I'm not so sure about that.

Firstly, we've no idea about the deal the RF have offered to them. I think it's doubtful they will have got everything on their "website wish list".

I suspect there will absolutely be constraints that if they want to retain their HRH status about how that can be commercialised. Not just respect of protecting the Royal brand but also because it sets a precedent for other members of the RF. Imagine how it would look to the likes of Edward and Sophie who had to give up their commercial enterprises if H&M get a "free pass".

Secondly, this idea that they will earn £££ from deals, speaking engagements and endorsements.

Commercial brands are very protective wrt who they associate with. Before this badly handled announcement yes, H&M's stock value was pretty high.

Now, I'd say it's less so. A lot of people (and not just in the UK but in the US and Canada also) think H&M have behaved very badly.

Their reputation has been tarnished as a large cohort of people now view them as selfish, disrespectful and petulant - not the attributes you want in a brand ambassador...

There are enterprises who will be happy to use their current notoriety no doubt, but I think it's debatable if you'll see H joining George Clooney flogging Nespresso - despite what H&M think, they simply don't have that level of "star power" and who wouldn't be wary of getting into bed with a couple who have so readily shafted the last last institution they worked with?

Equally as time goes on they will get less and less relevant. Unlike the power couples they seem to want to emulate they lack the intellectual gravitas and experience that makes people take notice of what these people have to say.

Had they handled this better then I think it might be different, but I'm not at all convinced that this is going to go to plan for them....time will tell.

cheezy · 14/01/2020 14:39

people seem to want to pigeon hole Meghan in the most frustrating and narrow minded way. I thought she was brilliant at first, so eloquent and full of energy and initiative.
I now think she and Harry have been selfish and thoughtless, don't like the vicitimhood, and think she probably IS a bit of a spoilt diva, but I still like her and respect their decision, and think they can both do loads of good.

People are complex! especially people in the utterly bizarre situation H&M are in. This thread is becoming so sour and also completely bloody bonkers

NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite · 14/01/2020 14:40

She seemed really put out and he looked quite annoyed. He could have said it nicely though and with a smile on his face. Maybe he was exasperated because she kept turning around and he's used to people doing what he says?

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 14/01/2020 14:41

Maybe he was exasperated because she kept turning around and he's used to people doing what he says?

I think he was stressed because he knew she'd get hugely criticised for doing it.

bohemia14 · 14/01/2020 14:41

I felt sorry for her on the balcony that day. It's being picked over but she made a simple mistake in turning around just before the National Anthem started. Harry was just trying to tell her what to do and it's not surprising she got emotional, she'd just had a baby.

astralweaks · 14/01/2020 14:41

They haven’t won. The opposite. It could all have been so different without the narcissism at play.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 14/01/2020 14:43

I'm don't think the balcony thing a huge problem to be honest. I can't be sure I wouldn't have had a wtf? face if my DH has spoken to me tersely like that for something I didn't understand.

MoonbeamsAndCaterpillars · 14/01/2020 14:43

But why was she put out? Did she turn round to look at him in a nice way? It looks like she's incredibly uncomfortable, but I don't get why she keeps turning round. And he does have a right face on him and yes, be could have smiled and looked a bit warmer towards his wife. Bit weird.

katiegoestoaldi · 14/01/2020 14:43

Great post DeRigueur. I agree

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