Harry and Meghan resigning Act 4: the Price of Freedom.....?

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So the saga continues
Thé Canadians are not happy about paying for the Sussexes security

I think that will be their downfall. They can’t actually fund the cost of their «freedom»
Other security experts saying that the cost of 24/7 private security is about £4million per year.

Problem is; they have skipped the a Royal fold, and have to pay the real cost of their security and accommodation . They will have to sell every aspect of their Lives to fund this.

Just had a look at the Sussex Royal website.
It is so blatantly trading on their work completely funded by the RF, British government and tax payer. serving the Queen and Commonwealth here

Some of Harry’s Charities such as Sentebale and Invictus should be included, and perhaps Meghan’s Grenfell tower cookbook.
Once it’s accurately edited; renamed to drop the Royal bit, patronages given to them when they actually worked for the RF and edited so that they are referred to as Harry & Meghan. Not the duke and duchess; it’s woefully thin on content and gravitas

I assume there will be a massive media focus on Harry's engagement on Thursday now. It will be assumed, rightly or wrongly, that this will potentially be his last royal engagement and that whatever he says can be seen as a parting / farewell statement. Not a position to enjoy being in.

Will 'independent living' include not taking money from Prince Charles and his Duchy of Cornwall income?

It won't take long until they are both a laughing stock. This is going to backfire spectacularly.

I wish my mammy and daddy was still giving me £££ pocket money when I was in my 30s!

Will 'independent living' include not taking money from Prince Charles and his Duchy of Cornwall income? only if they sell enough teatowels.

I see the Sussexes are only 200,000 followers behind the Cambridges on Instagram now. They’ve certainly gained a lot of new followers since this whole drama kicked off!

I think maybe they have looked at the Obamas, Clintons, Clooneys, Oprah, the Gates' etc and thought 'we can do that!' but they haven't earned their place. They haven't been president, held (an elected) high office ran a humungous company or invented anything.

It reminds me of when 'ordinary Joe' people go on reality TV shows and then believe they are 'celebs' so try to turn their hands to acting, singing, selling perfume etc.

The Harry begging a stranger for a voiceover job for his wife clip was so cringe. He's very....animated and she's very obviously pretending to have nothing to do with it, 6 inches away.

But equally cringe is the clip of Harry telling Meghan to "turn around" on the balcony at BP and she's clearly shocked and trying not to cry.

You can go off people.

I doubt that Charles will want Bea & Eug to take anything on.

But yes, some of the press they have had-and for what-body shape, "staring" eyes, clothes.

Yet some designers are happy enough to dress them for events, so why not make something that fits/suits.

And that godawful hat-why would anyone buy Philip Treacy after that??!!

They have never done Royal duties so have never been accountable for what they do or don't do.

Yet because of their titles they are held accountable.

The buzzfeed article is comparing apples with oranges. They need to compare with the early days of Kate in the scene, not all these years later when she has worked hard and earned respect

same here lordfrontpaw. I got £50 at Christmas, does that count?

Middle aged millionaire trustafarian Harry has no real clue what financial independence even means. Fortunately for them he’ll never get to a point of having to choose between heating or food. They’ll likely coin it in going around the world hectoring the masses to hand over their cash and consider themselves saving the world. So that’s all good.

The masses can ignore the fact that if that’s really what they’re about they’d have been been putting their high profile independent global humanitarian ambitions to good use recently for Australia, not kicking back in billionaire luxury in Canada faffing about registering companies and tweaking their insta.

jeans have you got a link for the balcony scene please

I doubt that Charles will want Bea & Eug to take anything on

I don’t know why not. Unless the number of engagements is going to be reduced he’s going to need someone to take up the slack.

I wonder how Harry’s going to feel when he sees the Trooping of the Colour, Remembrance Sunday and Royal Ascot all going on without him there. There won’t be any more Colonel in Chief gigs and the ones he’s got apparently don’t want him any more.

I thought that Charles had already told Andrew that there was no place for his daughters in the "slimmed down" monarchy?

Are the assets of the Duchy of Cornwall privately owned or state owned?

If (hypothetically) we ditched the monarchy, would that income be owned by The State?

I know that when Edward VIII adbicared, he kept his Duke of Windsor title but lost his HRH. Does that mean he personally owned all income from the Duchy of Windsor even though he was no longer Royal?

I'm trying to understand the line between state funds and private funds in the Royal Family.

It'll all end in tears. She's got her claws into him.

He only became Duke of Windsor after abdication. It was a consolation substitute title. Doubt it carries income though I don't know for sure.

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Another, yet slightly less rude, interruption.

I know that when Edward VIII adbicared, he kept his Duke of Windsor title but lost his HRH. Does that mean he personally owned all income from the Duchy of Windsor even though he was no longer Royal?

It was just a title, there were no lands with it to generate any income.

As far as I know there are only 2 Duchys-Cornwall(for the oldest son of the Monarch) & Lancaster(for the Monarch).

The others are just titles with no revenue /land ownership.

I would have thought that with no monarchy everything that isn't privately owned by them would no longer be theirs.

Edward Vlll was HRH to his death. His missis was never given it.

Unless the number of engagements is going to be reduced he’s going to need someone to take up the slack.

Add in the fact that Charles, Camilla and the hard working Anne are all now in their 70s or near it. They will have to drop their work levels soon enough. The Queen won't be around forever. There will be a gap and the Sussex situation makes that worse.

Just an observation about the level of security needed - and the attendant cost to the taxpayer, either here in the UK or in Canada.

The Sussexes are said to have a security detail of "six at any one time in a 24 hour period". This actually translates to at least 24 security officers: six for each of the three 8-hour periods of the 24 hour day, plus six on rest day (security officers being humans too and needing time off). There would be additional requirement needed for annual leave, sickness, training and so on, so you are probably looking at a team of 26. At least.

In addition to salaries, there are additional accommodation and travelling costs, subsistence allowances, cost of specialist equipment and the cost of specific refresher training, as well as the cost/burden to senior staff not involved in day-to-day protection but carrying operational and managerial responsibility for those actually on the security detail.

It all adds up.

Anyone who suggests that a lower level of security would be sufficient because of Canada's relatively low incidence of terrorism is missing the point, just as anyone who believes that Harry enjoyed a normal "just one of the lads" experience in the Armed Forces.

There is no senior commander in the world - either Armed Forces or police - that would risk either an attack, a serious or fatal accident or any other reasonably foreseeable incident to someone like Harry. Not least because it would be career-ending. If normal Apache helicopter maintenance includes a double check for safety, it would have been a triple check or a quadruple check in Harry's case.

I rather think it's not the title or the money the Prince of Wales is minded to give his son from his Duchy proceeds that requires more thought. It's the how/who/how much/who pays/which jurisdiction/which applicable rules and laws for security, that's bedevilling the Queen's advisors.

jaichangecentfoisdenom:

I've just seen this comparison of the treatment of Kate and Meghan by the press. The hypocrisy is blatant.

Rumboogie:

NONE of those are in any way comparable.
Manufacturing an issue where none exists

I've just looked and some, but not all, (I only counted 8 there anyway) are definitely comparable. I don't like Meghan but there are definite differences in some examples given between how Kate was treated and how Meghan was treated. I think they have a perfectly valid complaint. I would consider though whether it is one particular journalist/commentator for a newspaper.

Just to say though that I wouldn't say any of these examples showed any sign of racism.

One I do disagree with is the one about cradling their bumps. Kate is just placing a hand on her bump while Meghan was constantly cradling her bump with one hand at the top and one underneath it. It was cringeworthy and she did it all the blooming time. Kate didn't. That one wasn't comparable.