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To find the royal family fascinating part 3

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BishopBrennansArse · 02/05/2019 16:47

Don’t use it yet just putting it here ready for when part 2 runs out....

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RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 13:45

So... Umm... Do we know if any other historical royals had their own sex chairs? Super subtle attempt to revert to the original topic

Oh no you don't! No more sex furniture! Please!EnvyGrin

Let's have some romance. Is everyone familiar with the live story of Lillian & Bertil?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ulqazjkkxlc

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 13:45

Love story, not live story. Obvs.

lyralalala · 05/05/2019 13:48

Let's have some romance. Is everyone familiar with the live story of Lillian & Bertil?

They waited so so long to be able to marry!

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 13:52

They waited so so long to be able to marry!

It makes a better royal love story than glass slippers and gorgeous young people, I think.

AppleKatie · 05/05/2019 13:55

I didn’t know that one either.

The ‘rules’ have hurt so many people over the years haven’t they. Human beings are so bizarre.

lyralalala · 05/05/2019 13:55

I also think when you see their closeness to the King & Queen's children, especially Carl-Philip, and realise they gave up any chance to have children of their own to make sure he could be there if he was needed to be regent is just so touching

MagicKingdomDizzy · 05/05/2019 14:01

I think the Queen and Prince Philip is a nice love story. She properly fell for him when he gave her a tour around the ship he was on. He wasn't the best choice of husband but she insisted. They seem to truly love each other, even after all this time.

I also like the story of Franz Ferdinand and Sophie Chotek. She was considered well beneath him and he renounced his children's claims to the throne so he could marry her.

His last words to her were "Sophie, don't die. Think of our children!" Then they both died moments later. SadSadSad

lyralalala · 05/05/2019 14:05

The Queen and Philip always slightly bothers me because Mountbatten was trying to match make a 13yo with an 18 yo.

That’s just tragic with Franz and Sophie.

I have to admit I do like the Frederick and Mary story. Meeting at the Olympics. Genuinely not knowing he was a Prince. Moving so far from home.

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:11

I'm never quite sure whether to believe "I didn't know who he was". Or did she mean literally at the first meeting she didn't know? I always think there must be pointers that this is someone unusual. Certainly after a week or two.

MagicKingdomDizzy · 05/05/2019 14:13

lyralalala

The Queen and Philip always slightly bothers me because Mountbatten was trying to match make a 13yo with an 18 yo.

Shock I thought she was older than that when they got together.

lyralalala · 05/05/2019 14:14

She was older when they got together but that’s when she met him and her crush was obvious to Mountbatten.

lyralalala · 05/05/2019 14:15

I'm never quite sure whether to believe "I didn't know who he was". Or did she mean literally at the first meeting she didn't know? I always think there must be pointers that this is someone unusual. Certainly after a week or two.

I think she meant literally when they met in the bar that night he was just a Danish guy there for the Olympics

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:16

They made her wait until she was twenty one before getting engaged and actually took her off to South Africa in the hope she would change her mind.

Thirteen was when she first clapped eyes on him at Dartmouth.

Mountbatten was a habitual meddler and promoter of his family, though, wasn't he?

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:16

think she meant literally when they met in the bar that night he was just a Danish guy there for the Olympics

Oh okay. I can see how that might happen.

bluewavysea · 05/05/2019 14:16

Is this thread only ok to come on as long as you love the royal family. To call people who don't agree "haters" especially if about meghan is wrong. The RF cost the taxpayer a lot of money, at a time when people are worried about the rising cost of living, homelessness, food banks, zero hours contracts.....the thought of having to work into their late sixties. all these things can cause resentment, when we see the royal family who have none of those worries, because we the taxpayer are supporting them. Most of the time people just get on with living their lives and don't concern themselves too much.

I think the reason mm gets so much stick is because she, more than any of the others blatantly goes above and beyond what people want to see. To wear an engagement dress costing 50 grand, maternity clothes costing approx half a million, the private planes, helicopter s (even if they were paid by someone else) is not something in these times people want to see. It's a throw back to days gone by when it was thought of as normal. The days of royal excesses flaunted in our faces reminiscent of the Queen mother and princess Margaret are now being repeated with Meghan Markle. (Air miles)Prince Andrew is probably even more extravagant (with other people's money) but for some reason we dont get to know what he's getting up to.

So it's perfectly understandable why MM is getting disliked. It isn't ,"hate" as people like to say, it's a deep routed sense of injustice, if anyone's to blame it's the media for all the attention they're giving her, these aren't the right times to see such displays of excessive wealth and privilege.

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:18

The ‘rules’ have hurt so many people over the years haven’t they. Human beings are so bizarre.

Monarchy and modern life just don't go together very well.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2019 14:28

That was Mountbatten all over - ambitious, unscrupulous and determined to promote his lineage to avenge the insult to his father, who was forced to resign as First Sea Lord because of his German heritage

I used to know Bill Evans, his valet for 10 years, personally after meeting him through community work. The tales he told painted a picture of a very complex man, married to a lady with - shall we say - unusual tastes

MagicKingdomDizzy · 05/05/2019 14:30

bluewavysea

Is this thread only ok to come on as long as you love the royal family.

You don't have to love the royal family, but given that most of the thread is exchanging trivia about them, you might find it boring if you don't like them!

And no, not everyone on here loves MM. We just don't want stuff said that will delete the thread.

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:31

Unusual tastes, as in not just her habitual adultery? Something in that, ahem, realm of life though? Shock

We need to take you out and get you tIpsy @Puzzledandpissedoff , where do you live? Smile

MagicKingdomDizzy · 05/05/2019 14:33

Puzzledandpissedoff

Mountbatten pushed very hard for Charles to marry Amanda Knatchbull (his granddaughter). After he and her brother were killed in the explosion she refused Charles' proposal.

Lucky escape I think! She appears to have had a wonderful life and career, that she probably wouldn't have had if she'd married Charles.

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:33

I don't love them @bluewavysea , I don't see how anyone can once they've read a few biographies, and I do love biography, so...

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:35

But you notice how Charles did dutifully pop the question as instructed @MagicKingdomDizzy ?

To me that shows he was depressed, biddable, and resigned to an arranged marriage.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2019 14:36

I'm never quite sure whether to believe "I didn't know who he was" ... I always think there must be pointers that this is someone unusual

Anybody else getting flashbacks to Coming to America?

"baby, when I tell ya’ the boy has got his own money, I mean the boy has got his own money!” Grin

RubberTreePlant · 05/05/2019 14:37

I mean, as opposed to being a cynical Bluebeard, sacrificing virgins, which is the way he's often being portrayed.

lyralalala · 05/05/2019 14:39

bluewavysea

It’s not that you have to like them to be on the thread it’s just that it’s more about random stories and chatter than serious opinions.

The bulk of these threads have been odd or obscure stories of Edward VII sex chairs and Princess Margaret’s diva strops and a tragic Princess from many moons ago. It’s not actually a debate about the current monarchy.

The reason th request has been made about MM is that there’s usually at least two MM threads on the go on Mumsnet so there’s no need for it to be here too, especially when there’s an element who will then deliberately try and get the thread closed which means al the stories we’re discussing go too.

If you look at the comments about Princess Margaret and Prince Charles and, in particular, about the conditions that someone in the thread worked under while working for the royal collection you’d see it’s far from a thread of royal lovers.

We just don’t want to get the thread closed when there are always other threads to discuss MM in as there’s always a couple on the go.

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