PB on the bed, dreamies and chat

[Ollivander84]

Here!

I had fish and chips. I took the fish out the batter. I am officially my mother now 🤦🏻‍♀️

Thanks all for the support.
But not thanks for mentioning fish and chips! I can almost smell them and taste them! Instead I've got two packets of crisps, some chocolate and a hard plastic seat, while dd2 snores away on her trolley...

For all of you going through a tough time on this thread.

Whatever decisions you make will be the right ones for you and your circumstances. No-one else can be in your shoes.

Thanks, TheLongRider.
Been thinking of Cozie a lot, and all those who have poorly cats.
The litter tray is such a lovely section of Mumsnet - cat lovers are the best!

I had fish and chips. I took the fish out the batter. I am officially my mother now

I used to do that. And then I'd only eat the batter.

How is your DD Papergirl?

Is there any way you can try to opt for foster or kinship care of the baby? If you want to this is. I do think that all mothers should be allowed, especially with a first child, to 'have a go', with support, because the act of birth and of holding one's own child changes things so much. So many women (and especially girls) do step up to the plate if they are properly supported. If they don't or if the child is at risk that's a different matter - but as you wrote it it all seems a bit Magdalen Laundries to me. :(

We're waiting to be seen by someone from the cahms team, but hopefully will be out of here by lunchtime.
Social services suggested a Special Guardianship Order, Spartacus, in which I'd share parental responsibility with dd1, but have the final say.
But they might not even allow that now, as they are concerned dd could take off with the baby, plus there's dd2's very fragile mental health, and both kids will scream and swear at each other and even fight on a regular basis. Even I can see it's not a great atmosphere in which to raise a child and that the baby's needs must come first.
However dd1has said that if necessary she'd undertake not to be alone with the baby or would even move out and let me raise her baby, rather than the baby go to strangers.
My heart aches for both kids and their pain, and for my grandchild who faces such an uncertain future

Have you slept? I've been there and done that - but with parents, not children. :(.

I don't know what to say. I'm the first to say that I'd happily put birth control in the water-supply (somewhat jokingly) in the best interests of children, but I'm also not sure that adoption is always in the best interests of the child either... and your DD is essentially a child too :(

I got a bit of sleep and have just had an egg and sausage bap which hit the spot.
My two are adopted, but nearly two years in foster care, much of it with an abusive foster carer, who was later struck off or whatever the correct term is, added to the damage done by birth family.
Last year they traced birth family on Facebook and that brought a whole load of new problems.

Oh dear - where there is abuse and neglect I'm absolutely sure that adoption is for the best :( - but yes there is too much abuse in the care system generally.

The sausage bap sounds like just what you need.

Apologies for butting in folks - would some of you mind popping over to Chat to back me up? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3497498-advice-unwanted-pet

I've posted on that one thecatneuterer. It's unbelievable that people think randomly buying a pet for somebody's kids, without even asking is a good idea.
The OP sounds sensible enough not to just dump the kitten or hand over to the first person who asks, though.

TCN done. Twats. Thank you for letting us know.

Paper More I know a bit about what you're up against. You're a hero, girl. As a sometime A&E veteran (not serious), not to mention too tight to pay a quid for a small packet of hula hoops, I keep M&S biscuits and kettle chips, diet cokes etc, in the hall in one of those cloth book bags. I pinch magazines when I'm there.

Obviously it doesn't last long wherever I and my frail appetite happen to be but I do refill it so there's always something to take the edge off hours under strip lighting on those awful plastic chairs. The key is to get really nice stuff, you need the best possible deliciousness.

It is so hard to know what to do, the poor girl already feeling the baby is better off with you.

Furry noise ball wanted some cheese apparently

You won't believe this but have left dd2 on children's ward and am down the corridor in maternity with dd1 who is getting checked out for some strange symptoms. The midwives don't seem too concerned but have hooked her up to a monitor and getting a doctor to check her out.
Cats aren't half the trouble of kids. No wonder I call Matt the golden child!

Where is Matt at this moment?

Ollievander an beanz and tato?

That photo has started my Monday with a chuckle.

Matt is at home, Cozie, and alas was not the golden child last night. I made the mistake of letting him about at 11ish thinking he'd only be a few minutes. He rolled in at 1.20am, after I kept going to the end of the road in my skimpy nightie, armed with Dreamies, hoping no one would drive past or look out of the window.
He then nearly fell coming in through the bedroom window so I had to grab him under the arms (paws?) and haul him in, and then had damp cat performing his bedtime ablutions while cuddled up against me.

Oh no Papergirl! is it bad that your description of Matt had me in stitches even though I knew you must have been just aching for sleep. I must admit that being cuddled up with a damp, slurping cat gives me the warm fuzzies...

what a day. No self-respecting cat takes the evening air when you are dressed in anything but your emergency nightclothes.

Big Red, our vast family ginger, used to roll in slugs and dump himself on my pillow for me to get them off. Pre dawn. I've got a slug phobia really.

I hope you and Matt have a more peaceful day. Try not to do too much except stroking and eating.

Luckily dd1 was allowed home after checks, and we're hoping dd2 will get discharged this morning. In the meantime I'm lying on her surprisingly comfy hospital bed, and naughty Matt is presumably catching up on his sleep at home.
We get slugs in our kitchen. I hate them but Matt doesn't take a lot of notice, thank goodness.

@Weezol no just cheese apparently 🤷🏽‍♀️ he even did sit and paw for it

what a day. No self-respecting cat takes the evening air when you are dressed in anything but your emergency nightclothes

WHY do I get the impression that Nurse Lee plays at least a cameo role in this fantasy?

Moving swiftly on