Going to look at a cockerpoo puppy this morning

[BarchesterTowers]

We were on the wairin* list. But she rang yesterday saying that one of the current litter isn5t going to br picked up. Did w3 want to come look. Means we won’t get a choice.

honestly i may get no. 1 more, as i said in a prev post, vast majority of mine go to people that either already had one off me, or are directly referred by people that did

Totally agree on the pom poms. That's why most people cant pick a poodle out of a line up. I also assume thats what puts most people off.

I can understand tha reasons people have given you. And if people said those reasons, thata enough for me, personally. As I say I adore spaniels. Not keen on staffies, but some people adore them. We do all have preferences. I grew up with chihuahuasp

It's just frustrating (and it's happened on this thread) where people insist they went for that brees because of the coat. In my experience there no real difference in cockapoos, cockers and poodles. I just always wonder why when looking at dogs that suit they discount the breeds a poodle cross comes from.

I do admit, I do judge people who just keep saying 'cause coat' or 'I didnt want the amount of grooming a poodle needs'. Because it's obvious they didnt research at all. But I also judge people who bought a Springer spaniel and then show shock and surprise the dog needs a lot of exercise and interaction and his happy been left in the house all day.

I jus wish people would be more responsible when buying, rescuing and breeding. As buyers though, you can do your best to ensure you are buying from a responsible breeder.

That's why most people cant pick a poodle out of a line up

It's also very telling that when you are out with a poodle, admirers of the dog always ask if it's a cockerpoo, labradoodle etc. No one ever asks if it's a poodle. Shows how much the poo mythology has sunk into public consciousness. They admire your poodle, but still go away saying they want a labradoodle, when they've just said your poodle is exactly what they're looking for!!

I also don't get what crossing brings. "advocates" for their poos will list all the reasons they wanted their dog, which is normally a list of poodle qualities (coat, allergies etc). The only thing I can come up with is in the main it's pure snobbery about a poodle and it's looks.

although I often have people remark on the fact my yorkie doesn't yap at or try and bite them!!

We have recently adopted our third rescue dog (only one at a time though) I could never buy a puppy when there are so many lovely dogs waiting months in kennels for a new home. None of the three older dogs we have adopted have had any serious issues. a bit of reminding about toilet training and being empathic while they settled in has been all that has been required. It breaks my heart when I see people go for a puppy over a rescue dog. DH is now semi retired, so we only have 2 days a week when we use doggy day care but we have always been able to work out something with the rescue people to enable us to have a dog - when our sons were at home all of the holidays were covered and it was only a short day to arrange a break in when they were at school. If you really want a dog it is doable for most people. Not all rescues will not rehome to a home with children but it is really serious stuff if a dog is taunted or has its ears pulled and bites - a death sentence probably.
Our new dog is a bull lurcher, very sweet girl but probably overlooked due to her breeding. The problem with "designer doggies" is that they can end up with the worst qualities of both breeds - we were interested in a Dachshund/Jack Russell but the poor dog barked all the time, and was snappy, also very dangerous to cats.
We have only had one pedigree dog bought as a puppy ( dog number 3 out of 6) We did all the right things but he was the only one who has actually bitten any of us( fight with DS1 when he dropped some Smarties on the floor, badly bitten arm)

I could never buy a puppy when there are so many lovely dogs waiting months in kennels for a new home

I spent over a year scouring rescues, filling in forms, arranging visits, and never got a dog.

My only requirement was I wanted a small breed. I was judged acceptable, older kids, someone at home, rural area.

But rescues seem to operate on a first come first served basis and the small breeds are popular. I arranged several meets to have them cancelled on the morning or in the car on the way as someone had just called in and reserved it. I was spending increasing amounts of time phoning and on websites, and in the end I had to put a stop to it as I knew if we ever got to the point of meeting a dog, I'd probably take it, suitable or not as the chance of being first to see another was very low.

So I looked for a puppy.

The cat was completely different. I saw a cat I liked, had several chats with the rescue, saw the cat, had a home visit. They held a file of all potential adopters, and when the cat was ready chose what they thought was best fit. Much more relaxed and I felt I had a say in whether the cat was suitable, rather than taking the first one offered.

ETA in the end I didn't get a puppy puppy, but took on an adolescent who had been bred for showing but didn't meet breed standard/had a medical issue. The breeder was going to keep him as a pet, but when I came along thought we'd be a good match after we hit it off viewing her dogs.

I find this quite strange as we have adopted from Bristol dogs home, Rescue remedies (twice) and Many Tears and on each occasion we have been accepted for the dog we made the original enquiry about. this time round although we went with the Rescue Remedies dog we were also invited to apply for 3 dachshunds with a breed specific charity.
This may be because looks and age are not big factors for us with a dog. We are strong applicants but not perfect ( DH still works part time, I work full time) and we are not really up to a dog with serious issues". We did get quite a griling this time round and had to provide a video of our garden fences and give various undertakings about not letting the dog off her lead in public, but all for the best for the dog.

Many tears nearly always requires a resident dog.

We were nearly always accepted for the dog, simply someone else would get to visit it first and reserve it. Generally speaking, if I couldn’t get to it within 48 hours someone else would get there first. We have commitments and a family so while that means someone would be at home for the dog 90% of the time, it also means we can’t just drop everything and drive an hour or two to see a dog. Especially as it was a family decision so we wanted us all to be there which restricted us to weekends really.

Have you tried Rescue Remedies? you can read all about the individual dogs in their live forum.

Just seen another post of Facebook

Both adults full time. Want a miniture cockapoo puppy. No idea what the parents (I am presuming toy poodle) are or how its being bred to be miniature.

Clearly no idea what a puppy needs or how they will do it.

I am puzzled as t
o why there are so many bichons in rescues, many tears have loads, and lots advertised on pet websites
When i had my little dog,she was attacked by a bichon got from many tears,the poor dog had come from a puppy farm originally i think, and was very aggressive,it grabbed my dog by the throat, both were on leads,
As far as i can see they are very difficult to toilet train, but it made me wonder if that is why there are so many in rescues
My sister got a lovely little dog from a local rescue which one day suddenly turned on her and literally took the skin off her hand,
She gave it another chance,but had to return it to the rescue in the end which she was very upset about, but rang a few days later to ask how he was,and to apologise for returning him,
The rescue said he had already been rehomed
That poor dog will probably end up being put to sleep,if he has bitten again, and it could have been a child he bit,and done a lot more damage
When my sister got the dog,one of the rescue staff said watch your fingers,so they already knew he was a biter
not a caring one at all they had no idea of his background as he was picked up as a stray, so just be careful not all rescues have the dogs wellbeing at heart

But your sister was warned. They pointed out he was a biter. Likely they rehomed with someone who knows the dog is a biter and prepared to take the time (and risk of Injury) to train the dog.

Of course all rescues arent good. But rescues, especially larger ones observe behaviour and dont train. Some foster homes train the dogs. Bit again, they arent in foster for long enough to train all behaviour out. That can take years.

It's well known that rescue dogs can be an unknown quantity. It's also know they dont display their true behaviour until thay have been in the home for a while. Same as puppy's. Very few dogs go to rescue with a full, honest history.

That's what you sign on for when you get a rescue.

I am puzzled as to why there are so many bichons in rescues, many tears have loads, and lots advertised on pet websites

Many tears rescues from puppy farms. Often breeding bitches and unsold puppies that have had no interaction with humans or other dogs- which is why it probably has such bad behaviour issues.

As to why so many bichons- probably because they’re one of the most popular designer crosses. So you need bichons to produce your cavachon, maltichon, poochon, yorkishon etc that people so desire. But then what do you do with the parents when they’re no longer useful? Dump them in rescue.

Which leads back to the argument as to why these designer crosses are not a good thing.

Which leads back to the argument as to why these designer crosses are not a good thing.
TBH I don't think it's the crosses that are the problem: it's the demand for them and the willingness of puppy farms to produce them and people to buy puppies from dubious sources. If it wasn't cavachons and maltipoos, it would be pedigree cavaliers, bichons, maltese and min poodles being churned out in the same awful conditions by the same ruthless people.

I'd much rather a family ended up with a cavachon bred by someone round the corner who has had a litter every five years for the last few decades than a pedigree anything from a puppy farm (either the filthy sort in a barn or a massive, squeaky-clean and impersonal commercial kennel with twenty breeding bitches).

Where’s OP gone?

Probably busy cuddling her puppy and too scared to come back and get abuse for it 🤷‍♀️

scarsthelot yes my sister was warned and accepted that, but the dog bit her hand down to the bone, she didn't expect to be savaged he just wouldn't let go,
The person who said that to her obviously didn't know the dog very well, he had only come into the rescue a few days before, so they shouldn't have let him go without assessing him,and then rehomed the poor thing with the week of her taking him back,which she didn't do lightly
It happened twice

Dogs dont display the same behaviour in a rescue that they do at home.

Again, your sister knee they hadnt had her long. It's entirely possible she didmt bute anyone that bad there or may never have done.

Even when in a foster home, a dog can act differently when settled into a permanent home.

I am not saying she rehomed lightly. But it seems she was entirely aware the dog hadnt been at the rescue long, knee the dog was a biter. I am not sure what else the rescue could have done. They could have had the dog 6 months and it not have bitten someone so badly.

And again, they may have rehomed quickly because someone with the right experience was willing to adopt.

@bluebluezoo

I also don't get what crossing brings. The only thing I can come up with is in the main it's pure snobbery about a poodle and it's looks

Says the woman who has said she has a ‘small dog from a breeder’ so why didn’t you go to a shelter and rescue one of the fugly dogs that no one wants, if ‘snobbery’ doesn’t come into it? Why buy a pedigree from a breeder?

I have two wonderful cavapoochons, from an exceptional breeder, fully health checked and pretty much perfect in every way. I decided they were right for me for many reasons and shock, horror, one of those reasons was their good looks, they are simply beautiful (they don’t shed but I don’t give a toss about that). I don’t like how poodles look. It’s called having an opinion, you seem to be pretty good at that, so why don’t you crack on with your choice of dog and let other people choose the dogs they want