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Going to look at a cockerpoo puppy this morning

219 replies

BarchesterTowers · 04/01/2020 08:24

We were on the wairin* list. But she rang yesterday saying that one of the current litter isn5t going to br picked up. Did w3 want to come look. Means we won’t get a choice.

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princessTiasmum · 04/01/2020 09:29

Prices of these designer dogs is shocking .

Costacoffeeplease · 04/01/2020 09:33

All the signs are there op, it’s up to your conscience. I wouldn’t do it, especially with a child in tow who’ll be all gooey at the lovely puppies Confused

fivedogstofeed · 04/01/2020 09:34

I know exactly how this will pan out. Op will go and see the puppy, breeder will be lovely and will live in a naice house, puppy will be super cute and will come with op home today.
Lovely breeder is a client of her vet.
Perfect.
Everyone's happy and noone feels bad for perpetuating the cycle of overbreeding.

FiresideTreats · 04/01/2020 09:36

Please don't.

fivedogstofeed · 04/01/2020 09:40

And btw OP your friend didn't 'take in' one of the ex breeding bitches - she bought her, once the dog was no use for breeding anymore. These people don't give dogs away.

itstrue · 04/01/2020 09:43

Problem with designer dogs is that if you buy (for example) a poodle puppy off a breeder they should be working to breed the best puppies they can towards the poodle standard set by the kennel club. They should be actively trying to breed out recognised problems with the breed. And you are able to complain to the Kennel
Club if you have any problems. I'm not in the UK so I don't know what your clubs are called.

When you buy a mixed breed like this then it's just breeding with no screening for heath problems and no attempt to breed to a standard (because there aren't any).

It's a puppy mill because it's only for profit - there is no attempt to better the breed. It doesn't mean the dogs and puppies are mistreated though. But they are just an income source.

Have a look at Cocker Spaniels and Poodles and see if one of these can meet your need. I've got a poodle and she's a perfect family dog but the grooming costs are high.

Daffodil101 · 04/01/2020 09:46

We were in a similar position. We didn’t get a choice. Luckily our pup is so lovely, the perfect one for us.

If the pup isn’t what you were hoping for, stay on their list for another litter.

WellErrr · 04/01/2020 09:48

Is she a reputable breeder of designer crossbreeds?

Is anyone?

so in between breeding spaniels she gets a litter of poodle crosses, thus bypassing the guidelines of a bitch having too many registered purebred litters. Ka-ching.

This.

Plus, the ‘last one, ready to go, someone didn’t collect’ is code for ‘it’s the one no one wanted and we want rid.’

I bet it was originally first pick yeah? Wink

You’ve got all the info. There are plenty of actually reputable breeders who aren’t breeding back to back for profit. I’d fund one of those instead.

FurryMuzzle · 04/01/2020 09:49

Wilful fucking ignorance

WellErrr · 04/01/2020 09:49

Plus don’t forget that these are very high maintenance dogs. High working drive, need lots of exercise and professional grooming. And more than likely to shed.

CaptSkippy · 04/01/2020 10:00

Kennel clubs are not always the most discerning when it comes to kicking "farm" breeders off of their lists.

The awrning signs are these:

  • She doesn't keep the dogs she no longer needs
  • Breeds more than one breed
  • Has litters close together

Do you know how much work taking care of even one litter is? The room where the litter is kept needs constantly cleaning, since it takes weeks untill they are house broken. Puppies are like little vampires top mum. She will be constantly exhausted and needs a lot of support from her owners. This is tough to do with just one litter, practically impossible with two (unless you run it like a business).

Do not buy a puppy from this woman.

RhodaCamel · 04/01/2020 10:03

IMO anyone who buys ‘designer doggies’ isn’t a real animal lover and is just getting a dog for the look of it. I am a dog walker and walk many cockerpoos and cocker spaniels and I can tell you that as gorgeous looking as they are these dogs are high energy and need a lot of looking after, something very few people take into consideration when they see a gorgeous bundle of fluff at the breeders. I wish there was some way to stop all this breeding especially when the rescue centres are full of dogs and puppies needing forever homes, even more so at this time of year.

TARSCOUT · 04/01/2020 10:10

Sound a bit sus to me and there is absolutely no need to pay hundreds for a mongrel because that is what it is. You can get pure breeds from the pound!

simplekindoflife · 04/01/2020 10:13

Just another view...

I got a puppy from a breeder. No rescue centre would give us a dog with a child under 6. (My youngest was a very sensible and kind 4 yo!)

And most of them said they didn't have anything suitable for any children under 10?! And they didn't like the fact we worked - even though I'm part time and my DH works from home 4 days a week?! And we have relatives nearby that could care for him if we ever weren't at home.

And to be honest, we wanted hypoallergenic fur to avoid any potential allergies. We care what breed particularly, so it wasn't about 'designer dogs' for us. And we wanted a dog that was fairly young (not necessarily a puppy but under 2 years) and the rescue centres couldn't agree to that either?!

They made it so hard, we gave up! Confused

Helenluvsrob · 04/01/2020 10:14

It’s a puppy farm.
Apart from anything else you are getting the “ reject “ puppy without any opportunity I bet to compare how they handle / behave with and compared to siblings as it’ll be on its own . I guess you are a 1st time own so won’t really know if there are any signs to suggest they aren’t the pup for you.

My pup was bred by a friend ( it’s not a cross breed) and she helped me choose the one that suited me best. Mind you the “ calm “ pup that he is with me goes out the window when we have a play date with mum / gran and sister who are still at home especially if the other 2 pups from the road come too 😂.

Rescue one of those poor Xmas pups that will be in the rescues in the next few weeks.

Pobpen · 04/01/2020 10:15

£10 says the OP will still go and buy the dog

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talia66 · 04/01/2020 10:21

I am a bit of a cautionary tale. When I got my pup he was the last one. He was very shy and in my gut I knew if there had been a choice he might not have been the puppy I would have chosen. But I confess I got swept up in the moment.
Fast forward - my pup is 6 months now and is scared of people. I have had to pay out for a behaviourist and am putting in lots of work to help him. Having a dog is hard work and a long term commitment. Especially if you get a dog with issues.
So I can't stress the importance of being sure and trusting your gut. Don't get me wrong I adore my dog and already wouldn't trade him for the world - but that's the point - be very careful because once you commit to them they are yours for their life! X

fivedogstofeed · 04/01/2020 10:22

The OP will buy the puppy. I have no idea why she posted.
"Only one puppy left/ buyer had a change of circumstances " is the oldest trick in the book. Search up puppies on Scumtree and see how often this line appears.

NameNumber5 · 04/01/2020 10:22

I agree getting a rescue dog is very difficult!

We were turned down by two different local rescues, one rejected us because we had guinea pigs and the other because we had a child under ten. I ended up buying a working cocker from a friend who is a farmer and breeds and works gun dogs... 'puppy' is now 10 years old and just enjoyed a jog around parkrun with me. Love him to bits but it seems such a shame to leave dogs in kennels when they could be having lovely homes, and this encourages people to buy puppies! And while people will buy then people will breed.

fivedogstofeed · 04/01/2020 10:26

@talia66 did you ever think that the "last puppy" story was actually bullshit to put pressure on you to buy?
It may go further to explain why your poor pup has issues.

Scarsthelot · 04/01/2020 10:28

I didnr find getting s rescue dog difficult. I went to a small breed specific rescue. And brought home this beauty a few weeks ago.

Smaller rescues are far better imo. And in fact a litter of cockerpoos Came in at Christmas with their mother. The owner if the mother sadly died over Christmas.
They have has 5 dogs surrendered this year that turned out to be pregnant. Then my dogs litter was abandoned and this latest one.

OP the vet may not think it's a puppy farm, but all the red flags are there

Going to look at a cockerpoo puppy this morning
Scarsthelot · 04/01/2020 10:30

Oh an op, I hope you realise that there a good chance the cockapoo will shed hair.

BrazenHusky74 · 04/01/2020 10:34

The fact that the term "breeding bitch" has been used turns my stomach, and getting rid of the poor thing when it has served its purpose tells me all I need to know.

Daffodil101 · 04/01/2020 10:34

I’ve got a cockerpoo, he’s 5 months old and calm as anything. Easy to train, intelligent, happy.

Lots of generalisations on this thread.