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My puppy is in her first season

199 replies

SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 16:36

She is 9 months old. Is it quite late for a first season? I was expecting it at about 6 months.

I will be breeding her with my other dog but not on her first season.

How long do you think it will be till her next season?

This is the first time breeding. I'm going to try it once and if it works out quite well I'll continue.

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AllergicToNutters · 15/03/2012 16:55

be prepared for a flaming OP!

D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 16:57

OFFS.

Refer to all the many other threads on why BYB is a bad, bad thing.

Spay your dog fgs.

bubblebutt · 15/03/2012 16:59

Do not what so ever breed till she is 2 and had all health tests done on her as in hip elbow and heart and eyes for starters. Also is she KC reg or one of the others cos if the former fair enough but if any of the latters I wouldnt bother. You sound like a novice by the way so research your breed you have and then some and see if there is actually a market for your dog or not.

Do you show and do you have a stud dog in mind for her as well covering everything here.

Why do you want to breed her as well will be a big factor to

Goawaybob · 15/03/2012 18:09

Was very brave to post that OP My DP came home last night and said to me, hey my friend has two great chihuahuas he said why dont we get a bitch so we can breed them. Thinks it would be nice.

I pointed out a few things to him that i will point out to you.

Apart from the fact that your dog is waaay to young

Are you prepared for the financial cost? You should get the puppies first vaccinations done, worming?

What if there are difficulties with the birth, YOU dont know what you are doing, blatantly so will you recognise if things aren't progressing as they should? What if it ends up in a caesarian section, out of hours, have you any IDEA how much that costs???

Also, will you vet prospective owners of your puppies? Or do you not care where they go?

What about weaning, do you know when you should do it?

Also, most reputable breeders offer some sort of insurance, are you willing to provide that?

What if the new owners can't keep the puppies for some reason, are prepared to take them on? They would be nigh on impossible to rehome.

What breed of dog are they? Do they have any special requirements?

Im not saying dont breed, that would be very patronising, but unless you can confidently answer all of those questions (and probably more) id seriously question it.

Not everyone who breeds from home is a BYB, i know some ameteur breeders who are very knowledgable and get a lot of pleasure out of their hobby, but you are posting on a parenting forum for advice, which suggests to me that you have ALOT more research to do before you even think of it

feesh · 15/03/2012 18:51

Words fail me. THERE ARE ALREADY TOO MANY DOGS IN THE UK IN RELATION TO THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL HOMES FOR THEM.

Oh so words didn't fail me after all!

MiseryBusiness · 15/03/2012 18:56

Really OP?

Spay your dog in 12 weeks time, or as soon as your vet recommends.

fussbucket · 15/03/2012 19:06

Not going to flame but endorse everything Goawaybob says. Both my sister and sister in law have bred puppies, in each case KC registered rarish breeds, and the effort of finding good homes, taking back one puppy who didn't settle etc was gargantuan. They both did it because they wanted a new puppy, which they got (and in one case two new puppies...), but sister has said that if she'd realised she'd have got her next dog from a rescue.

axure · 15/03/2012 19:08

OP is this to wind up dog lovers? Why do you want to breed? Is to just to make a few quid? You will be lucky to cover your expenses if you do it properly and could end up out of pocket if there are complications. Hopefully your dogs won't mate sucessfully.

IAmBooyhoo · 15/03/2012 19:12

this is so clearly a wind up.

SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 19:39

I'll be honest I'm not too sure if I will breed or not. Technically I bought her to breed but really she's a pet. I already had the dog and somebody recommended that I buy a bitch as my dog comes from a good blood line. I did a lot of research and found my bitch who also comes from a good blood line (not the same one).

I adore her she's my little girl. I did kind of talk myself out of breeding but I am in 2 minds.

I have done some research into it thats why I was so confused.

I don't have to get their first vacinations done but yes I do have to worm them. I know that.

I actually helped deliver my dog. I had to cut his cord. So Im not completely clueless.

I know not everybody agrees with breeding but it happens.

She is a jack Russell we live in the country. They are very popular. I have already her checked for any issues both her and my dog they have no problems.

I don't have to get her hip scored.

I have no intention of breeding her so young. I seperate them in their cages at night and if I have to go out during the day and I exercise them seperately.

You can say so many dogs need homes but they can't all be re-homed not everybody wants a rescue dog etc.

Thank you for answering my original question though Hmm

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SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 19:44

I will be providing the first 4 weeks insurance, vetting everybody who wants to purchase a puppy etc.

I have no intention of just treating her like a meal ticket, like I said she's my little girl. If she is not happy it is not something I will continue.

Also I posted "in the dog house" Isn't this about dogs???

Not everyone on MN is a parent

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D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 19:50

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IAmBooyhoo · 15/03/2012 19:51

why do you want to breed OP?

IAmBooyhoo · 15/03/2012 19:52

your dog i mean, not you personally. Hmm

D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 19:53

There are none in this rescue either

Such rare and wanted dogs.

IAmBooyhoo · 15/03/2012 19:54

"Also I posted "in the dog house" Isn't this about dogs???

Not everyone on MN is a parent"

what the poster meant was if you are serious about it why haven't you asked for advice on a site specifically dedicated to dog breeding. you would get fer more experienced answers to your question than on a parenting site that has a dog section.

Goawaybob · 15/03/2012 19:56

It is good that you have done your homework, is she a Parsons russell? It sounds like you have thought about it, so no need to be defensive. The only thing i would say is get the puppies vaccinated against parvo-virus. This is not a full course vaccination that they need from 8 weeks but definately worth doing as this condition seems to be making a come back.

The thing with people pointing out about there being lots of dogs needing homes is not saying that people ould rather have a rescue than a puppy, as in fact most people prefer a puppy. What it IS saying is just be aware that finding GOOD homes for dogs isn't straight forward.

Why not have a chat to your vet and see what they advise.

btw - i love JRTs, mine is sat on my lap as i type, you do see an awful lot of them in rescue centres though.

Goawaybob · 15/03/2012 20:02

WHY did i open those links Sad

SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 20:03

I would not sell to someone who I thought would use a puppy for badger baiting.

They are used on farms for ratting though. Thats what they were originally bred for.

I intend to sell them to families. Noth my dogs are lovely affectionate friendly little dogs. Their puppies would make lovely pets. Lots of people are looking for puppies not rescue. You may not like it but its true.

I sponsor 2 dogs from dogs trust that can't be rehomed.

I posted on here because its a sight I am always on.

Breeding doesn't make me a bad owner. If I neglect to take care of the dogs and just use her for constant breeding then it would but I wouldn't do that.

I still may not.

for instance if her season work so that her puppies would be ready to be rehomed around christmas then there is no way I would breed her. I don't agree with selling puppies so close to a time when people would but it as a novelty.

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SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 20:04

See above why I'm defensive.

I don't need to be called a twat!!!

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D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 20:08

441 JRT puppies on PreLoved Angry

SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 20:08

I would see buyers as adopters.

I even thought that I would like to do home checks just like you would if you was rescuing a dog from a resuce centre.

Another thing is, people do like puppies and if they don't buy mine they might end up buying off an owner that doesn't care as much as me and get poorly puppies that could be inbred etc

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BeerTricksPott3r · 15/03/2012 20:09

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SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 20:12

Breeding does not make me an irresponsible backyard breeder at all.

You know nothing about me to make a comment like that

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IAmBooyhoo · 15/03/2012 20:13

"I even thought that I would like to do home checks just like you would if you was rescuing a dog from a resuce centre."

if you were any kind of responsible breeder it wouldn't even enter your head not to do home checks. it would be a pre-requisite before you agreed to sell any pup.

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