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My puppy is in her first season

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SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 16:36

She is 9 months old. Is it quite late for a first season? I was expecting it at about 6 months.

I will be breeding her with my other dog but not on her first season.

How long do you think it will be till her next season?

This is the first time breeding. I'm going to try it once and if it works out quite well I'll continue.

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SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 21:38

And what I was saying is that there wasn't any JRT there. what would have been more likely to be PTS is german shepherds because there was loads of them which makes me think that they're the sort that are not thought about correctly when purchasing and so are abandoned more.

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Heswall · 15/03/2012 21:46

My cousin breeds dogs, the day she cannot sell a pup for £600 is the day she'll give up, she has a waiting list of prospective owners. The truth is most people these days don't want a mongrel and they do not want a dog they don't know the history of. The dogs trust, RSPCA etc make it hard to become an owner of a rescue animal cat or dog, shame.

D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 21:51

'The dogs trust, RSPCA etc make it hard to become an owner of a rescue animal cat or dog' it should be fucking hard. These are living creatures that will depend upon you for the rest of their lives, which for a healthy, young cat could be 20+ years. You should not be able to pick one up easily. It needs to be thought through and planned properly, not just picked out of the free ads on a whim.

I wonder about people sometimes. Really Hmm

Heswall · 15/03/2012 21:55

But since it isn't difficult to buy a dog irresponsibly the likes of the RSPCA etc need to make it easy too, they've nothing to lose and everything to gain.

BeerTricksPott3r · 15/03/2012 21:56

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D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 21:56

Responsible breeders also make it hard to own one of their puppies.

BYBs and puppy farmers, not so much.

If you cannot rescue from a single rescue or find a reputable breeder willing to sell to you, then you ought to reconsider your choice of pet.

BeerTricksPott3r · 15/03/2012 21:57

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Heswall · 15/03/2012 22:01

But since it isn't licenced and it is a nice little earner as a sideline if you can't beat them join them and make rescuing an animal more accessible to people. My gran was turned down by every shelter because of her age and they worried how she would manage. In the end she bought a staffie cross and they lived together for 15 years after which my gran paid for the dog to live its life out at a charity farm.
How many other potential owners of cats are turned away because they work, dog owners who have children ?

D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 22:04
Hmm

You really think buying an animal should be easier?

There is no point even arguing with stupidity like that. I'll leave to someone with more patience.

NoMoreMarbles · 15/03/2012 22:05

dooin there really is no need for the unpleasantness! when DH and i decided to get a dog, we had thought about it very thoroughly and MOST people dont take that kind of decision lightly. we decided against a rescue dog simply because the hoops we had to jump through were many and most of the conditions were ridiculousHmm we did not take the decision NOT to use a rescue lightly either but decided not to get a dog until we came across one we both loved and was good with our DD and one we would not have to jump through numerous overly judgemental hoops. Yes there should be conditions but how on earth would any of the dogs be rehomed to responsible owners when the vetting is so tight that it scares most people off?

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Heswall · 15/03/2012 22:08

Do - you clearly love your animals and thats wonderful but you need to communicate with humans too and if you want breeding regulated good luck with that, in the meantime animals that could have a good life in a family home are destroyed because of red tape which is utterly ridiculous.

Heswall · 15/03/2012 22:10

Beer - faced with the alternative of death or months in a kennel with all the stress that involves I think if you asked the dog they would be willing to take more a chance on potential owners personally.

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NoMoreMarbles · 15/03/2012 22:15

exactly heswall DH and i provide a lovely home for our dog and would have been able to do so 3/4/5 years ago but werent allowed. the fact that dogs are entering the rescues at a much faster rate than leaving them says it all really...again, yes there should be regulations for rehoming animals but to basically scare of hoards of potential owners with dozens of irrelevant questions before even thinking about considering the potential owner...i did not like being treated like a potential animal abuser...

BeerTricksPott3r · 15/03/2012 22:23

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D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 22:26

But if dogs weren't readily available via BYBs and puppy farmers people wouldn't be scared off by 'irrelevent' questions. They'd have no choice but to answer them because they'd be asked the same by any reputable breeder.

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 15/03/2012 22:28

you are a BYB, and the sheer ignorance of your dog is just the tip of the iceberg.

And that you are contradicting yourself.
Pretty sure this is a wind up.

Im off.

midori1999 · 15/03/2012 22:28

Jumping through hoops... any breeder worth anything is going to have potential owners jumping through as many hoops, if not more, than a rescue.

OP, I'm quite confused because JRT's aren't recognised by the KC. If you are confused or I have missed something and they are Parson Russells, then if the breeder didn't register them with the KC then you cannot. They may not be registerable, even if the parent's were because the parents' papers are endorsed or because the puppies weren't bred in a way that meets KC registration criteria.

If you think the mess of a season is a nuisance, you won't want the mess a whelping bitch leaves you with, nor the mess a litter of puppies creates daily, surely?

Are you prepared to risk your bitch dying in order to have puppies from her? This is a very real possibility.

Tbh, it doesn't sound like your dogs came from the best source in the first place, so it's not a great idea to breed from them in turn.

Heswall · 15/03/2012 22:30

If people could get a dog through a rescue then the b y b might find business dropping off and it no longer holds such appeal. As I said my cousin can pick up £3,000 tax free once a year, take away the demand and supply would naturally disappear.

midori1999 · 15/03/2012 22:31

As for vetting scaring people off. Good. Now all they need to do is put much stricter regulations on dog breeding (as a 'breeder' I welcome this!) and then we'd stop idiots breeding dogs, idiots buying dogs and eventually rescues would become empty or virtually empty.

NoMoreMarbles · 15/03/2012 22:31

hypothetically speaking are we planning to move house in the next few years?
are we planning to have more children? how many children do we plan on having? (we already had DD and a cat- not that he is a child but another living being in our home) how long have we been together? how stable is the relationship (how TF is that any of their business?) i could go on!

like i have already said, YES there should be conditions/regulations to follow but to question the potential owners about their relationship etc ridiculous!

Heswall · 15/03/2012 22:34

We were asked about our family planning too, now I could not say that if I had an accidental pregnancy I would abort it for the sake of the dogs happiness this was not what dogs trust wanted to hear so no rescue dog for us.

D0oinMeCleanin · 15/03/2012 22:35

'like i have already said, YES there should be conditions/regulations to follow but to question the potential owners about their relationship etc ridiculous!'

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SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 15/03/2012 22:36

Jax The only way I have contradicted myself is because I am in two minds about it.

Midouri
I have lots of papers detailing all the blood line etc (I'll have to dig them out). I assumed this meant they were KC registered.

I really don't like the insinuations about the sort of person I am.

That I am a BYB, that my dogs haven't come from a good source etc. None of those things are true.

Yes I am considering breeding my dog.

I am not puppy farming, giving them away as bait dogs, going to breed my little girl till she's half dead etc etc etc.

I am going to weigh up the pros and cons of this then make my final decision.

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