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rehomed our puppy and feel devastated

270 replies

ItsMyTurn · 17/05/2011 07:17

that's it

OP posts:
WynkenBlynkenandNod · 17/05/2011 21:04

For goodness sake, hasn't this thread been bad enough Pia, without deciding to now insult every MNetter who has ever bought a dog ? I'm sticking to the gardening section, can't be doing with all this rubbish.

Slubberdegullion · 17/05/2011 21:04

ROFL Pia

Okey Dokey

VivaLeBeaver · 17/05/2011 21:04

The one time I did post about my dog I also got a kicking but what struck me was the amount of supportive private messages I got all saying they agreed with me but were too scared to show their support to me on the thread. I don't blame those MN'ers at all for how t hey felt and was very grateful that they PM'd me. But I think its very sad.

Agree that the Dog Section puts AIBU to shame.

PiaThreeTimes · 17/05/2011 21:05

And that quote is something that I object to.

RumourOfAHurricane · 17/05/2011 21:06

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rockinout · 17/05/2011 21:06

I am an animal lover and fwiw I think you did the right thing. You have been through huge change and trauma recently and this extra responsibility was probably too much to cope with while grieving and re locating. All the bullies here should be ashamed.

ellangirl · 17/05/2011 21:07

Careful wynken, we might be checking you didn't buy your plants from a back-garden breeder! .
Seriously, buying a puppy from a responsible breeder is not unethical. How silly.

WorzselMaamage · 17/05/2011 21:07

Which quote ? Are you drunk ?

VivaLeBeaver · 17/05/2011 21:07

ChickChickChicken - yes I remember you, glad that your hen is still OK. But no I wouldn't reconsider about posting on here about my dog. I might PM you though and ask for advice. Smile

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 17/05/2011 21:09

Ellangirl, I was determined to be grumpy but you just made me snort with laughter!

ellangirl · 17/05/2011 21:09

You can still respond to others requests though viva, and give a bit of the balanced advice you feel is lacking?

PiaThreeTimes · 17/05/2011 21:09

Read up a bit, Worzsel.

chickchickchicken · 17/05/2011 21:11

viva - pm me anytime. not an expert but will always try to help my hen's saviour a fellow mner Smile

WorzselMaamage · 17/05/2011 21:13

I still dont know.

JustineMumsnet · 17/05/2011 21:13

We've deleted some posts from here and concur with those who've been surprised at the way the OP has been berated. A reminder to all that Mumsnet is about making parents' lives easier. ItsMyTurn best of luck with everything, it's clearly been a very difficult time.

midori1999 · 17/05/2011 21:14

It is a nonsense to say that certain people or types of people aren't welcome in the Doghouse, or that it is a case of 'do it our way or don't bother'. Val is extensively involved in rescue and against any sort of breeding. I am a (reputable I hope!) breeder, yet we manage to 'get along' and actually agree on a lot of things, although obviously we disagree on some.

That doesn't change the fact though, that there is both a right and wrong way to get a dog and a right and wrong way to rehome one. I know Val has helped to rehome several (or more!) dogs from Mumsnetters and I know absolutely that she has put her personal views aside so as to be able to get along with that person and make sure the dog ends up in a decent rescue.

Yes, the OP's circumstances must be extremely difficult, but in fairness, she didn't mention that on the other thread or at the start of this one. Val offered help on the other thread and if the OP has said she wasn't keeping the puppy, no doubt Val would have also (as she has done many times!) arranged quickly a place in a good rescue for this puppy and at haste so as to help the OP out as best as possible too.

There are so many dogs being put to sleep each year and maybe if people took their responsibilities more seriously, both when getting a dog and rehoming one, that number would be vastly lower. Of course, there are valid reasons to rehome a dog and there is no doubt the OP was right to rehome this dog, but there were better ways to do it.

When you hear day in day out people's bollocks excuses to 'get rid' of their dogs it gets incredibly depressing and I suspect that is one of the reasons there are such strong feelings on the matter.

Vallhala · 17/05/2011 21:15

"Are you carrying the baton now Pia ?"

Nope... she's flying the flag.

Funny thing is, I don't talk on here of the other charity work I do, except for I think twice, once when a child's death spurred me to get involved and I was so sad and so anxious to praise and tell you all about him, and once when answering a Chat post asking what charitable work we all do because the OP wanted to do some.

I don't NEED to tell you that children die from cancer. I don't NEED to tell you that they and their loved ones need support and practical help. You know that. All of you.

But many people, across the UK not just here, DON'T or didn't know that pound dogs have only 7 days to live before the pound can and will kill them. Many of the educated, clever women on here DON'T know that so many dogs die needlessly each week or that rescue dogs aren't by far all without a history. Some have as a result adopted or will adopt from rescue. I have done a good thing as a result.

I'm passionate about what I do because it MATTERS to me. I'm "gobby" about it because there is much misunderstanding, much prejudice and much tommyrot spoken and that tommyrot costs canine lives. I see FAR too much of that and if I can correct the incorrect advice and challenge the prejudice I will. Jeez... if you could see my FB. YOURS may be about your children and families... mine is almost solely for and shared with fellow rescuers... and full of information on, photos of and appeals for dogs which will die in the next few days, which HAVE died, dogs which have been beaten, burned, stabbed, used as bait...

I apologise if you don't like my style but I can't apologise if you don't understand why I am so impassioned and hurt by what I see and why I strive, in a small way, to change it for the better.

TheDerailer · 17/05/2011 21:17

The point is midori, that even once the OP's circumstances had become clear there continued to be bashing of her.

Sickening.

WorzselMaamage · 17/05/2011 21:19

There's "gobby' and there is downright horribly offensive, presumptuous and agressive.

You do a great job Val, truly but they way you go about speaking to people about it sometimes does your cause no good at all.

Vallhala · 17/05/2011 21:24

Viva, to balance what you've said about pms to you on my views, I often get pms too, saying things such as the OP (NOT this one, am not speaking of her any more) is a blithering idiot/cruel/when will these people THINK before taking on a dog/how HAVE I kept my patience with X or Y remark or poster/how they agree with me. It works both ways... some are loathe to express an opinion publicly in agreement with me but make it clear in pms that they concur very much with what I'm saying.

VivaLeBeaver · 17/05/2011 21:28

I'm sure they're probably right Val as well. Smile I've also read stuff on here (again not to do with OP) and thought what on earth on you doing getting a dog.

Someone I know has just got 2 puppies as she couldn't decide which one to take. Has never had a dog before and they're a very lively brred of dog. I really like this person but can't help thinking its not her best decision. Anyway hopefully she'll prove me wrong.

chickchickchicken · 17/05/2011 21:29

completely agree with midori's post. i would never go to a breeder for a pup but i completely respect her opinion and have learnt a lot from her posts about the reasons why reputable breeders still breed when there are homeless dogs. I dont agree with it but it has improved my understanding. i wish all breeders were like her

i can also understand valhalla's last post. i am also very involved with kids in care and kids with disabilities and how their life chances are affected by their circumstances. i actively campaign on these issues and have been a foster carer and a respite carer for children with disabilites as well as an independent advocate and guardian. i have been a trustee for various local charities connected with childrens welfare and life opportunities. i challenge discrimation wherever i come across in my daily life with regard to educational opportunities and job opportunities for children and young people with sen and looked after children. i spend a huge amount of time supporting parents to get statements of sen and have myself taken legal action against my own LEA three times.

however, that wouldnt come across in my posts re animal welfare. it isnt relevant to animal welfare issues. but i have had people on here tell me i put dogs first........i want to shout 'really? what have you done to improve life opportunities for those who may be unable to fight for what they are entitled to? have you opened up your home to those who have no other home? do what i have spent the last 20yrs doing and then come and tell me i dont care for fellow humans'

thebestisyettocome · 17/05/2011 21:29

You talk a lot about how much work you do for dogs Val. Nobody who has read even a fraction of one of your many posts could ever be in doubt of that. Now you are lecturing us on how you work with childrens' cancer charities.

None of that takes away the fact you have bullied acted deplorably towards the OP.

stayathomegardener · 17/05/2011 21:31

I find this thread very sad on many levels.

OP you did your best that is all anyone can ask of you

chickchickchicken · 17/05/2011 21:31

Blush rant. sorry, it just bugs me when people assume that because you care passionately about animals that you dont care about humans

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