LORD OF THE FLIES - sun bbc1 9pm - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS

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A group of school boys are marooned on a desert island in an adaptation or William Golding‘s classic novel Lord of the flies

A plane transporting, schoolboy crushed lands on a remote island with no adults around supervise them their attempts to remain civilise soon descends into violence.

This four part series is a first television dictation of the classic 1954 novel each episode is shown from one of the main characters with the first one devoted to piggy.

Piggy is a responsible one who wants to keep everything calm. A lot of the boys go so when they’re stranded piggy tells everyone they have to have rules but the boys don’t act well to that.

Piggy initially be friends Ralph a boy who voted leader but Ralph‘s rival Jack taught piggy about his weight and poor eyesight

Jack judges PIGGY starts picking on him. He tries to be friends with Ralph when he knows that Ralph is PIGGY‘s only thread to hold onto they really don’t like each other.

not sure if I will watch as never like the book at school but doing thread incase I do and for others who may enjoy

Well, I was bothered by the death of Piggy. That wasn't right at all.

I agree. I think it was much less effective than Golding's description.

Yes it was wrong wrong wrong

Piggy he was obliterated !

Roger pushed the rock with a pivot lever wedged under it . The poor visually impaired Piggy who went to reason with Jack to return his glasses . Ralph as his guide and only friend .
The rock crushed and smashed the conch , Piggy was met with a glancing blow , and landed on his back on the flat rock to be washed away out to sea,''

He did not wander through the forest with Ralph , his head bleeding till he perished from blood loss .
Why change it ? The death of Piggy was the most dramatic part of the book .
The true wise friend . Killed by the spiteful vindictive Roger .
Why damp it down ?
The death of Piggy at the same time as the loss of the conch, both symbols of reason and organisation.

It lost its poignancy a fair bit and became about smoking Ralph out. As we can all tell from my username , I have always been enraged by the idea that we could perceive that Roger ' accidentally' kills Piggy who 'falls through the air'. It should be a big boulder not a rock.

Ralph should 'weep' and we should weep along with him for 'the fall through the air of a true wise friend named Piggy'. But at the same time we should think 'No, Ralph, he didn't fall. Piggy was pushed.'

The sharpening the stick at both ends line got swallowed up too. They needed an actor as good as Lox Pratt for Roger who I find utterly chilling.

Roger got away with a lot in this version. Golding shows us the potential for evil in Roger right from the start and it's the killing of Piggy that opens up the opportunity to sharpen the stick at both ends and get away with it.

Is this where your name came from @Piggywaspushed

Indeed it is!

Tho you’ve been piggy for years esp on tv stuff

Differences from book

https://www.tvguide.co.uk/articles/lord-of-the-flies-bbc-ending-explained/

10 things they needed to get right from the book

https://screenrant.com/bbc-lord-of-the-flies-tv-show-get-right-book/

At the first successful pig hunt , Roger is shown to pin his spear into the pigs' flesh and push with all his strength.
The rock which is balanced is described as the size of a small car . Roger was just waiting for the chance to push all his strength onto the lever and send it tumbling with disastrous results .

When the twins were approached by Ralph as he hid in the undergrowth they said "Roger has sharpened a stick at both ends" there was no need for them to spell it out , the image was chilling . Ralph was going to be the next offering of a head on a stick .

I think they changed that line in the show (or muttered it at least). I thought they said Jack.

Yes, I have . I didn't do it for this adaptation.

I always use the same username (three otehr obscure ones I use very occasionally are based on Of Mice and Men, Macbeth and David Copperfield!)

My righteous indignation and horror at poor Piggy's death - a murder- have never dimmed.

The name Piggy is absolutely deliberate. They see him as another pig. The foreshadowing in the book is clear.

I think it was probably an issue with special effects and falling form rocks plus also a protection of child actors from some of the most savage elements.

I'll need to rewatch it (I have been planning to , I did binge watch it but kept zipped on here or I'd get frogmarched outta here !

The book is definitely Roger
"Roger sharpened a stick at both ends . Ralph tried to attach a meaning to this but could not"

Roger was a right little scrote , I hope the TV version made him own this
He started demolishing sandcastles and throwing stones at one of the littluns .
He got progressively worse .
Jack never seemed so cruel at least not to the other boys in his group that he liked . Simon and Piggy were fair game to him.

See binging means you don’t appreciate it 😛😛

For Jack, "the mask compelled him" but Roger's evil was part of his character from the outset.

I'd have forgotten one week to the next and I'd have been kept awake till 2am thinking "well that wasn't in the book"

Like the suitcase of clothes and the boys striding about in fur gilets and earrings as their War Paint

I’ve found the series a bit disappointing. Sorry to those who loved it. I haven’t read the book as I said before, but from what I’ve heard when others talk about it, it’s horrifying and devastating. I think a lot of the horror was lost from the TV adaptation in favour of arty shots of trees and dramatic background music.

I'm pretty sure they said Roger, and commented on how bad he was.

I think a lot of the horror was lost from the TV adaptation in favour of arty shots of trees and dramatic background music.

I think that was because of the restrictions on child labour and no night working.

Having spent my time camping in Malaysian jungle, they were absolutely right not to have boys running around there at night. Their risk assessments were probably more than long enough as it was.

I'll have to find it again which will be hard as they muttered it. That to me is one of the stand out lines in the novel but it was definitely lost in its significance as all the boys were violent and carrying sticks, sharpening flints etc.

Samaneric said it when they told Ralph he had to go away.

Yes, they muttered it through a bush! It's a really important line.

Yeah just found it - it is Roger : you're right. It's really not well delivered though.

Given how visual the adaptation was, they could have shown Roger doing it. Him throwing stones at the Littluns was underdone too.

Jack had a teeny bit of good in him for a boy who was shipped off with no-one to say goodbye and no family that cared for him at Christmas .(though that was in the series, not mentioned in the book)
He did his best to gather the Hunters and provide food and safety from the Beast but not practical like Ralph or thoughtful like Piggy .

Roger was just a little git !

I watched "The Making Of" it was fascinating !
The were battling so many elements , I don't think I'd like to stand there in torrential rain and thunder waiting for a break to film.

At the end , the boys are saying what they've learned , the bonds they've forged , friendships made . David (Piggy) McKenna said "If I'm not someone's Best Man....."