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The Secret Traitor has been Uncloaked! Traitors 2026 | Thread 4 | Spoiler Free!

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CaveMum · 08/01/2026 10:25

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Welcome to Thread 4 of Traitors 2026.

This thread runs at TV pace so do not read any further if you are not up to date with the live broadcast.

While we welcome posters discussing their theories and speculating on relationships/connections between players, please don’t posts spoilers from elsewhere that may ruin things for those of us who like to see things unfold over the course of the series.

The story so far:

Traitors
Hugo
Rachel
Stephen
Fiona (Secret Traitor)

Murdered
Netty
Ben

Banished
Judy (Faithful)
Hugo (Traitor)
Ross (Faithful)

3 candidates for face-to-face murder tonight - Maz, Reece and Sam. Who will it be?

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DBSFstupid · 09/01/2026 08:06

TreesandGreen · 09/01/2026 06:25

Just caught up. Oh my word. Poor Maz. So glad Reece was saved. He seems so sweet, and I love that his job is a sweetshop assistant, as I relate so much more to that than to barristers and detectives etc.
But the traitor vs traitor thing?! What??? Fiona was so out of order. I actually think she's been at best out of control, and at worst very spiteful, and I really hope Stephen & Rachel have each other's backs, that they honour the pledge they made to never put one another's name down. Fiona needs to go.
Jessie is a brilliant faithful, and I hope she goes far. Faraaz is great too. I'm definitely team faithful. But I like Rachel & Stephen as a traitor pair too. I know a lot of people don't like Rachel, but I just think she's a very serious game player, and I reckon she's probably lovely in real life. Though I'm from Northern Ireland so probably biased! We've got Matthew as well as a faithful, so I'm supporting him too. We look after our own. An incredible episode overall. I just watched it on my tablet in bed, but wish I'd waited to watch it on a bigger screen. I might have to watch it again... 🤭

He's not just a sweetshop assistant, he mentioned the other night he's a professional boxing coach and can be very focused when he has to be.

Superhansrantowindsor · 09/01/2026 08:06

Fiona’s long term strategy is lacking. Rachel was thinking three steps ahead with her announcement. Fiona just wants to get rid of the other traitors so she can take all of the money herself. I think Rachel will be able to convince the others to get rid of Fiona now but people will then work out that Fiona was doing a traitor v traitor thing so Rachel will go too.

Cushylife · 09/01/2026 08:10

The Fiona vs Rachel was inevitable - both strong smart and competitive popular characters, who want to be top dog. I think Rachel should’ve brought the info on Amanda to the turret for discussion with her fellow traitors, on how best to use the info - that was her first mistake. And then following the challenge from Fiona / she should not have declared being accused of being a liar to all the faithfuls. She’s gone from flying under the radar to being front and centre - she’s shooting from the hip, she needs to stop making emotional decisions.

KittyHigham · 09/01/2026 08:16

I'm loving the Village examples of Fiona-type behaviour! Especially the poison pen letters 🤣
Fiona made it personal with Rachel from the start. She declared Rachel was not a team player despite the fact that Stephen voted for Hugo and Rachel didn't!

Her accusation that Rachel doesn't defend Stephen is nonsensical. Traitors have to be careful about voicing support and it makes much more sense to try to quietly redirect attention elsewhere rather than openly defend.

Her comment to Reece about being a rubbish faithful was really telling, or rather her pleasure in making the comment was really telling.

Hopefully the spat between the 2 will take the heat off Reece. It would be brilliant if Fiona got taken down tonight. Followed by Rachel who has blown her game completely.

needmorebooks · 09/01/2026 08:18

MrsMitford3 · 09/01/2026 08:03

Just watching on catch up this morning.

Watching the 7-7 round table vote.

I am concerned for the impact on poor Reece's mental health.

He is struggling so much. I hope he is getting support.
He seems so innocent and sweet and in way over his head.

I found it uncomfortable viewing.

I agree but find it odd he’s a different Reece from the very outspoken confident “I have to be assertive as a boxing coach” Reece we saw at that earlier round table.

Cushylife · 09/01/2026 08:21

KittyHigham · 09/01/2026 08:16

I'm loving the Village examples of Fiona-type behaviour! Especially the poison pen letters 🤣
Fiona made it personal with Rachel from the start. She declared Rachel was not a team player despite the fact that Stephen voted for Hugo and Rachel didn't!

Her accusation that Rachel doesn't defend Stephen is nonsensical. Traitors have to be careful about voicing support and it makes much more sense to try to quietly redirect attention elsewhere rather than openly defend.

Her comment to Reece about being a rubbish faithful was really telling, or rather her pleasure in making the comment was really telling.

Hopefully the spat between the 2 will take the heat off Reece. It would be brilliant if Fiona got taken down tonight. Followed by Rachel who has blown her game completely.

But Fiona was right - Rachel told Stephen her intention was to get rid of Fiona. Not that I’m a Fiona fan either - both of them are well matched!

EverythingGolden · 09/01/2026 08:21

Yes Rachel messed up by not keeping Fiona onside and telling them in the turret. If Fiona goes it’ll be obvious it’s traitor on traitor. Rubbish traitor behaviour but fantastic to watch.

Ihate2025 · 09/01/2026 08:32

@Goatymum @cloudtreecarpet I definitely think this is production influence here. The way Amanda sat her down to tell her she was a detective felt so staged and like one of those weird Love Island chats. Then I think that Rachel was told to make that grand announcement. Then, Fiona was separately told to challenge Rachel on that which is why Rachel was so surprised and angry. It stinks of production meddling to me, disappointingly.

Another thing that made me think was what was said on Uncloaked last night about how direct this set of players are this time and Fiona's quick and determined challenge kind of backed that up for me. The kind of strategy played by Rachel here usually provokes a considered response, lots of reasons of why would she announce that, sounding out others' opinions, considering what it might mean for her own game if she were to challenge her etc. Instead, Fiona jumps in with both feet incredibly fast and confidently which makes me think she was told to do it.

IreneFromSkibbereen · 09/01/2026 08:32

I think if I was a faithful I would have been questioning why Amanda singled out Rachel to reveal she was a police detective and nobody else, and why she left it so late, or told anyone at all. Amanda kept saying it was ‘to show that I’m trying to help you all’ or something, but I’m not clear how this would work. Then why Rachel made it into such a big-deal announcement - was Rachel wanting to show off how she was a person people trust? She’s certainly managed to avoid attracting heat as a potential traitor, so she’s obviously doing something right.

Amanda seems to have been quite popular, though personally I think I would have found her intimidating. Why did she keep going after Jade time after time? I forget what was behind that, but it was beginning to look like she was picking on Jade.

TheChosenTwo · 09/01/2026 08:34

Can anyone remind me of the explosive breakfast in series one? I keep seeing mentioned that this episode was the most gripping since the breakfast scene in series one but other than when that bloke announced that the lady who was being flirted with by someone else was his girlfriend I can’t think what else happened!
the boyfriend/girlfriend reveal seems very small fry though so I’m convinced it must be something else 😜
loved last nights episode, will be intrigued to see how it goes in the turret and how they will settle their beef!

ThatCyanCat · 09/01/2026 08:38

needmorebooks · 09/01/2026 08:18

I agree but find it odd he’s a different Reece from the very outspoken confident “I have to be assertive as a boxing coach” Reece we saw at that earlier round table.

Edited

A lot of people find it easier to be assertive, or something like that, when they're in their professional environment and it's expected and required, than when they're in a personal environment and the rules are less clear.

Umy15r03lcha1 · 09/01/2026 08:55

TheChosenTwo · 09/01/2026 08:34

Can anyone remind me of the explosive breakfast in series one? I keep seeing mentioned that this episode was the most gripping since the breakfast scene in series one but other than when that bloke announced that the lady who was being flirted with by someone else was his girlfriend I can’t think what else happened!
the boyfriend/girlfriend reveal seems very small fry though so I’m convinced it must be something else 😜
loved last nights episode, will be intrigued to see how it goes in the turret and how they will settle their beef!

I think it was Hugo talking over everyone about the most recent murder and saying how unfair it was ... Hugo was a traitor....

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 09/01/2026 09:03

TheChosenTwo · 09/01/2026 08:34

Can anyone remind me of the explosive breakfast in series one? I keep seeing mentioned that this episode was the most gripping since the breakfast scene in series one but other than when that bloke announced that the lady who was being flirted with by someone else was his girlfriend I can’t think what else happened!
the boyfriend/girlfriend reveal seems very small fry though so I’m convinced it must be something else 😜
loved last nights episode, will be intrigued to see how it goes in the turret and how they will settle their beef!

Was that the one were the guy shouted I’M A MAGICIAN at the top of his voice ? Grin

Pusstachio · 09/01/2026 09:08

needmorebooks · 09/01/2026 08:18

I agree but find it odd he’s a different Reece from the very outspoken confident “I have to be assertive as a boxing coach” Reece we saw at that earlier round table.

Edited

As a boxer you know who your opponent is though- obviously the unknown is fucking with his head a lot more!

Fulmine · 09/01/2026 09:20

I think if I was a faithful I would have been questioning why Amanda singled out Rachel to reveal she was a police detective and nobody else, and why she left it so late, or told anyone at all.

I think most of them were aware that the two of them were friendly, so I'm not sure that they would have found that strange. After all, Amanda was a faithful so it can't have been due to any sort of traitor plot.

I suppose the sensible thing for Rachel to do would have been to tell the other traitors about Amanda's secret first and discuss the best way to use the information. However, that would have taken time and I can see why she would have wanted to get the information out quickly after Amanda's banishment.

EdithBond · 09/01/2026 09:21

Ihate2025 · 09/01/2026 08:32

@Goatymum @cloudtreecarpet I definitely think this is production influence here. The way Amanda sat her down to tell her she was a detective felt so staged and like one of those weird Love Island chats. Then I think that Rachel was told to make that grand announcement. Then, Fiona was separately told to challenge Rachel on that which is why Rachel was so surprised and angry. It stinks of production meddling to me, disappointingly.

Another thing that made me think was what was said on Uncloaked last night about how direct this set of players are this time and Fiona's quick and determined challenge kind of backed that up for me. The kind of strategy played by Rachel here usually provokes a considered response, lots of reasons of why would she announce that, sounding out others' opinions, considering what it might mean for her own game if she were to challenge her etc. Instead, Fiona jumps in with both feet incredibly fast and confidently which makes me think she was told to do it.

Edited

Looking at it from production PoV, the first three banishings were pretty disastrous:

  • Judi: wrecking any intrigue from her secret relationship with Roxy
  • Hugo: which (IMHO an error) led to them ending the secret traitor
  • Ross: wrecking any intrigue from his secret relationship with Ellie.

I’d be surprised if there are more than two secret relationships.

So, it’s possible production encouraged some drama to spice things up.

goldtrap · 09/01/2026 09:26

Fiona jumps in with both feet incredibly fast and confidently which makes me think she was told to do it.

Yes - it made me wonder whether Fiona was acting under another set of instructions and whether there is legs in the ST after all and she will reveal she was given her own agenda.

Either way, I think the ST was always going to end relatively early, otherwise the cage game would have been less high stakes for everyone - they needed enough people to 'couple' up and then be left in the cages. Later in the game with fewer (less? pedants don't @me!) players it wouldn't have worked.

KittyHigham · 09/01/2026 09:28

I dont think there's any direct production intervention.
It's all done much more subtly. The audition process will have given them lots of information about personalities etc. And that guides the selection process for for traitors and faithfuls.

Introducing a secret traitor inevitably introduces mistrust in the traitors which was brilliant. The role suggests a hierarchy which Fiona clearly believes! She thinks she was appointed Queen Bee! Hugo and Rachel were never going to like that so the conflict was totally engineered by the team but without having to prompt anyone. (Stephen just seems a bit clueless).

Everyone I've heard talking about being a player emphasises how intense the experience is. People are forced to exist totally outside their comfort zone and therefore react in unpredictable ways. The human need to create connections is messed with by the knowledge that you can't trust and are under constant scrutiny. Some people become more forcefully and arrogant (like Amanda) others lose confidence (like Reece).

Setting up tasks like the burning shields, ramps up the feelings of being under threat and personal attack. The whole game is a form of torture!

Maggiethecat · 09/01/2026 09:30

EdithBond · 09/01/2026 09:21

Looking at it from production PoV, the first three banishings were pretty disastrous:

  • Judi: wrecking any intrigue from her secret relationship with Roxy
  • Hugo: which (IMHO an error) led to them ending the secret traitor
  • Ross: wrecking any intrigue from his secret relationship with Ellie.

I’d be surprised if there are more than two secret relationships.

So, it’s possible production encouraged some drama to spice things up.

I’d be surprised if production could meddle as there could be accusation that following a suggested course of action caused a contestant to be ousted.
Unless a term of their agreement allows production to direct the show/contestants to some extent.

C8H10N4O2 · 09/01/2026 09:33

Umy15r03lcha1 · 09/01/2026 00:37

It's actually great fun watching the ex coppers get it wrong time after time. And dizzy Fiona is heading for trouble, she thinks she's got special powers cos her husband and brother are coppers. Duoh!

Be fair - on MN we get plenty of “DH is a copper so that makes me Jane Tennison” type posts 😂

I thought the sheer outrage at Rachel, that Amanda might tell Rachel something rather than Fiona left me feeling I’d give her sharp swerve in that supermarket!

IsThisTheReaLife · 09/01/2026 09:41

I thnk Rachel is playing the game and Fiona is playing the pantemime villian. I think she was a poor choice for the secret traiter Harriet or Ellie would have been a better choice.

MrsLeonFarrell · 09/01/2026 09:42

Maggiethecat · 09/01/2026 09:30

I’d be surprised if production could meddle as there could be accusation that following a suggested course of action caused a contestant to be ousted.
Unless a term of their agreement allows production to direct the show/contestants to some extent.

I've said this a couple of times but I'm going to repeat it anyway. Production legally cannot intefer with the game once it stays because there is a cash prize. They do provide lots of mental health support and they can obviously set up the fame and the timings of missions knowing the characters they have but they can't change things once it starts.

Raisondeetre · 09/01/2026 09:42

notacooldad · 09/01/2026 07:33

For some reason Fiona just seems unpleasant and annoying - eg the comment about misleading traffic wardens.
I cant recall what she said about traffic wardens
What did she say?
Was she being smug when she said it.

She also said she likes white lies. She really isn't coming across as a very nice person.

123ZYX · 09/01/2026 09:42

goldtrap · 09/01/2026 09:26

Fiona jumps in with both feet incredibly fast and confidently which makes me think she was told to do it.

Yes - it made me wonder whether Fiona was acting under another set of instructions and whether there is legs in the ST after all and she will reveal she was given her own agenda.

Either way, I think the ST was always going to end relatively early, otherwise the cage game would have been less high stakes for everyone - they needed enough people to 'couple' up and then be left in the cages. Later in the game with fewer (less? pedants don't @me!) players it wouldn't have worked.

Edited

I was wondering this. From memory, the other traitors were told that the secret traitor would be revealed and would join them in the turret, but it wasn’t explicitly said that the secret traitor role had finished.

Given Fiona has aided in Hugo going and now seems to be working on Rachel, but I don’t think she’s aimed at anyone else, it suggests that she is deliberately targeting traitors. Potentially being deliberately slow during tasks could be part of it.

Could there be a separate reward for her if she does certain things to harm either the prize fund and/or the traitors without it being spotted that she’s doing it?

Alternatively, maybe she’s just thought that she would find ways of betraying other traitors, so assumed Rachel would do the same.

123ZYX · 09/01/2026 09:43

Or maybe she wants some TV work and thinks that being a “character” will get her noticed

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