MAFS #13 NO SPOILERS! Pussy galore made Keye run from his amore. Cat cafes breaking up couples, leaving greige people in their greige houses. Reiss loves castles and pyramids too, Steven needs a tomb for his Hinge profile too.

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The end is near, just behind the cat cafe.

I just rewatched it Grace and Ash, Grace said it happened multiple times. Ash said he only did it once and then he says:

”I don’t do it maliciously, going in there would always be playful”

He blatantly did it more than once. Liar, liar pants on fire.

There was another concerning comment from Grace. She was talking about when he came in the bedroom and wanted sex - it was that 'semi naked woman with a hot body' occasion. I think she said something like he wanted sex (not sure that was the word she used but that's what she meant) and she said no, and then it sounded like she said he carried on trying. Did I misunderstood that? Bloody hope so....

That's how i heard it too.

I was hoping I was wrong.

Yes, she said he was like a dog with a bone. She'd also previously said she'd had thrush but even that didn't dissuade him.

That's even more disturbing than picking the lock isn't it.

Yes I clocked that too. He totally gave himself away.

Hmm unsure. We heard that story many times from both of them before but never included that part until last night.

I have a bit of a problem with this. No one has successfully portrayed themselves as anything. The production team have made up the narrative and chosen to include what they wanted to.

Why didn't she bring these things up before? The production crew told her not to probably. Or she did and it was left out of the edit. Clearly, in this relationship Grace has boundaries and Ash took it up in himself to push them.

I've been married for over 20 years and my DH wouldn't walk into the bathroom if the door was closed, let alone locked.

Ash doing that is indefensible.

The unlocking of the bathroom door is what has put Ash squarely and clearly in the wrong, I don't think that can be explained away. I've been married a long time and my husband has seen me give birth (and pooing in the birth pool) so we're are definitely at a warts and all level of our relationship, but if the bathroom door is shut (not even locked necessarily, just shut) he would absolutely knock before entering and only come in if I said to. And I would give him the same courtesy. Just like I knock on my kid's bedroom doors before entering. It's really weird and creepy that Ash did this, not just once but multiple times, and that he also said he'd done it in previous relationships too 🚩

mcmuffin, I’m relying on what I’ve seen and heard from both of them - anything else is speculation.

Grace’s version has convinced a lot of people that she’s the victim in the relationship, as you can see from posts on this thread.

He sees nothing wrong with invading her privacy. What he did was actually a pretty aggressive and threatening behaviour.

Without the fact that they are pretty much strangers. He’s telling her he’s boss

I left an abusive shit, after many years, and I would have been shocked if he’d done this.

He’s not a decent person. Far from it

I don't think it is a version when he has admitted it. Like he admitted he lied to the experts to make himself look better on the couch the first time.

Yes, I’ve read all the posts, most of them sympathetic to Grace since her last bombshell revelation, but I’m not convinced.

l reserve judgement.

He’s admitted it. This is what women face all the bloody time 🙄

Exactly- not only admitted it but admitted he didn't see anything wrong with it at all. Thought it was hilarious in fact.

And that he's done it previously several times. So one can assume he'd do it again too.

It's interesting isn't it? Grace talking about how she's consistently brought things up and how he has dismissed them or can't see how they're wrong. She's spot on. He sees one way of behaving (as if he has rights to her body, how she should accept his comments as banter etc) as absolutely fine. She doesn't. And even when other people agree with her, he still insists that he's right. Also he's sulky.

I think Juicy Roo has been at it with Joe when they both left. It looked like Maeve was raging in the clip.

I wouldn't put it past JR, Ash, April or Steven to have slept with anyone at this rate.

We are near the end of this thread and it's moving very fast so I have made the next one as I imagine number 13 will fill up by tomorrow.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5439955-mafs-14-no-spoilers-the-end-is-near-and-as-some-will-head-to-the-final-vows-others-to-their-nearest-std-clinic-for-illicit-sex-has-taken-place-leisha-has-been-taken-for-a-ride-essex-style-manic-grinners-had-their-fancy-dinners

I definitely vote for Steve and April

I reckon JR and Ratboy.

I'll go Ash and April AND JR and Steven
I think Joe was away for the funeral and will stay away and Maeve will be outraged on someone else's behalf. I don't think Grace will be there so...