MAFS #13 NO SPOILERS! Pussy galore made Keye run from his amore. Cat cafes breaking up couples, leaving greige people in their greige houses. Reiss loves castles and pyramids too, Steven needs a tomb for his Hinge profile too.

[dillite]

The end is near, just behind the cat cafe.

So who do you reckon has slept with who as in tomorrow night’s episode?

Maybe Grace did air all the lock picking & boundary crossing to the ixperts & everyone at CC’s & it’s just been edited out till the end. Don’t think she can be blamed for not raising it earlier. Again (like Sarah) she’s been hung out to dry & made to look incredibly neurotic over things that seemed more trivial. Mmm grubby little programme this is really.

I've been on Team Grace from the start. Probably because I've met someone with his sort of minimising, 'victim', deflecting behaviour in my own life. Identified it straight away.
Breaking into the loo is unforgiveable, bullying, disrespectful and sick. I actually now detest him. Neanderthal.

Me too. I honestly started to question myself because I saw her pov everytime and it felt like there was even more to the story yet everyone else kept saying Ash was amazing. No he isn’t.

I did something I have never done before 🙈 I messaged Grace on Instagram and said that so many of us saw her, heard her and believed her. She sent a very sweet message back. 🙈

Ash and April surely? Not sure any others?

Re Ashley and Grace we do seem to be finally finding out what it's really been like. The first hint was Sunday's episode where she more or less said to her friends he was coercively controlling her. They would never have broadcast that if the loo door thing wasn't set to be revealed. He's not come out of this well at all.

I see Lee Evans

I'm the same. I think if you've had the misfortune to date men like this or be around them in an office environment you are hyper alert to it. I used to hear so much about wives and girlfriends from men just like this in an office I worked in in my 20's, it was a real eye opener.

I hear Joey Essex, I see a bargain basement Cillian Murphy

Re April and Leo - I wonder what else we will discover about those two. If it's more than just mismatched

I kind of see Dean Cain. Who, having just googled, weirdly looks like Dean from Mafs now!

He also said it’s never been a problem before [as if all women would be the same]. It seems lost on him it could be what put previous women off. But they just didn’t tell him.

Also apparently oblivious to the fact she may not want to be treated ‘like a princess’. But a woman who’s an equal.

@EveryMeandEveryYou He certainly comes across as handsy. Even on the honeymoon, he was grabbing hold of her.

YES YES YES! See how I’m shouting it because my agreement with you wouldn’t count if I didn’t shout 🤦🏽‍♀️

Exactly! He kept on using positive turns of phrase for his behaviour like "when I was helping" or "when I was being nice" etc still completely not understanding that she was telling him it wasn't helping or being nice or a compliment, etc. He has learnt nothing. He's so used to telling everyone what a great guy he is he believes his own hype even when the experts are explaining not everyone thinks like him. Yes, she had no space from him at all.

Never believe a man who tells you they are a good guy or a cheeky chappy! I’ve learnt that lesson. If you are genuinely a decent person it will shine through and you don’t need to sit there and tell people.

Also seems lost on him that she’s looking for something different to ‘the group’. They may think he’s a great guy because he’s a laugh and not particularly annoying. I’d prob think he was alright to chat to in the pub.

But boyfriend material. Oh no. He’s unreconstructed. Hours explaining basics to him (which she did) to be met with he couldn’t be himself or he felt attacked.

When he jumped on Mel and said "That's not what I am saying" I could see how he did it to Grace. Mel knew perfectly well what he was saying, he just didn't like hearing it back in the way she said it which was the way it was meant without his "shine".

No wonder Grace felt gaslit.

Just watching the Ash section again on this link and am shocked that I missed Paul trying to blame Grace for not standing up for herself! They have literally had her asking him to change in EVERY SCENE which is why so many people found her nagging and annoying! People need to really think on why they found a woman asking to be heard annoying when she was saying she wasn't being heard.

www.thesun.co.uk/tv/37232823/mafs-grace-ash-picked-bathroom-lock-while-inside/

I think every bride would have been better matched with Bailey.
He's an lovely man.
Nelly would have moved to his area and bought the 3 of them a fancy house.

Still haven't seen the episode, not available in Ireland until Sunday, payback for the extra full episode last week.

If you liked Ash you will be gutted. If you like Grace you will be gutted for her. If you like short shorts you are in for a treat with Rhys (and his puffer coat) and Abi. If you like shiny faces Leigh, Leah and Leisha won’t let you down! 😀

This made me lol she absolutely wld!!

I'm looking forward to it. Creepy Ash. 👀

I think they are both relieved to find someone who isn’t put off by unnerving wild eyed smiling because they do it too. Imagine what their kids will be like

I’ve just rewatched Ash & Grace as didn’t see the bit where she said he’d break into the toilet.

She does actually say “I’ve got so many examples…,but one of the things that I didn’t really speak up about” then shares how he’d try & unlock the bathroom door. So it seems she didn’t disclose this to any of them? She again says it occurred often - he says it happened once.

She does say she hadn’t wanted to talk about their intimate times h’ever. He reveals that he only did this after they’d been intimate - as though because he’d had access to her body then - it ought still be extended even when she was in the loo. So that’s possibly why she didn’t speak up about it before b’cos she knew he would blurt out that it was after sex in a way I now see as inappropriate now too. He would always try to prove he was in the right by saying well because we had sex that means what I did was ok. So she couldn’t bring it up b’cos he’d shame her for it - as he knew she didn’t want their private life being aired. Eeuuw. I thought she was being a bit of a prude about not wanting to admit to them having a sex life but now I see how he actually weaponised it against her. Horrible misogynist masquerading under the cheeky Welsh boyo persona. Poor Grace! He’s almost more sinister than Ratboi who at least is overtly rather than covertly toxic 😬