NEW 24 Hours in Police Custody - tonight 9pm - Channel 4

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A TV documentary that follows the work of a police force will show how the investigation into the actions of a teenage killer unfolded.

Nicholas Prosper used a shotgun to kill his mother Juliana Falcon, 48, his brother Kyle, 16, and his 13-year-old sister, Giselle, at their home in Luton on 13 September 2024.
The 19-year-old, who was arrested in the hours after the murders, was jailed for 49 years in March. A trial heard he intended to carry out a shooting at his former primary school.

The Channel Four series 24 Hours in Police Custody, which follows the work of investigators at Bedfordshire Police, will feature the case over two nights on 5 and 6 October.

I also thought “woo hoo, bully for you” for surreptitiously giving the police “the finger” in the station when arrested for the ATM cash thefts. And the comment too about “do you still really catch someone through finger prints…”

Watching the Bbc2 version Forensics The Real CSI.

Poor Mr Wainwright

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y82lqp8y7o

looks like a new episode is about to drop

Really interesting series too. It’s amazing how advanced the science is. Poor Mr Wainwright- it seems suspicious that he had those facial fractures but we’ll never know what really happened.

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Patrick skupinski who murdered his partner in ine of the BBC forensics episodes has died in prison (appreciate this is not new news but popped up on Facebook tofay).

The Wainwright murder with him being put in a freezer is horrendous. I think these CSI Forensics are as good as 24 hours - albeit told from a different angle.

Watching now.

Poor lady doesn't get any dignity in the crime scene pictures, even though they're not explicit. The screw ups in the first case are just..

It's quite an achievement to be on 24hrs in Police custody twice. I'm sure the guy already in prison was on another episode.

What an absolute fuck up. I hope there was disciplinary

The initial investigation said she died of old age? Wtf?? What kind of policeman counts a death as natural, when fire has been set and the person is lying face down in the hallway with badly burned clothing and “extensive stab wounds”? It defies belief that a policeman or woman could so callous or so incompetent. That really shocked me. I really hope they were sacked, but I doubt it.

The case was treated, and I quote, as a “normal sudden death “, until a decade later the case was reopened.

The poor lady had 15 stab wounds. 15!! Utterly shocking decision.

I don't get it either

The CSI officer ruled that as well. I mean are people in the police in Wisbech just opting for a quiet life because things like that don't happen there?

They definitely do happen there. I'm sure there is another programme on 24hours about Wisbech. Two of the guys in this programme were interviewed in that one as well.

It is pretty shocking that she was lying in a big pool of blood and burned, and they didn't even think there was a small possibility it could be a murder, especially as the town is very much associated with violent crime.

I don’t understand how they could have missed all those stab wounds

He was saying that his grandma was the same age and she died of old age.

Well they definitely said the death was natural, and closed the case. Which it very obviously was not.

Essex plod managed to miss gunshot wounds when one of the villains linked to the brinks mat robbery ended up dead in his garden.

There is something of a lack of curiosity that got mentioned. More trouble than it's worth to look into things. Probably forced incompetence (pressure to clear things up pronto) but there's a book out about a few death of a teenage blagger in London (London falling) that points to more murky stuff maybe

The victim was lying face down and the body had been burned. Until the body was turned over, the stab wounds wouldn't have been visible. They still might not have been visible due to the fire. The lack of blood splatter is/was a confusing detail.

They still should have listened to the Fire Investigating Officer that was telling them it was arson and looked like murder.

I guess it seems incredibly obvious with the benefit of hindsight, but maybe not for the people first on the scene - a faulty red hot cooker, no sign of a break in, locked doors, etc.

Well luckily the police now thought differently, and said the original conclusion “beggared belief”, and at least one person was uncomfortable with the decision at the time. It seems to me there’s no excusing it. And it’s laughable that a corpse wouldn’t be turned over before a decision was made, and one with a cut throat at that.

They did fuck up at the scene but I think it was clear at the post mortem within a few days it was a homicide. Still, the initial fuck up at the scene really prejudiced the case

They interviewed one officer from the time in last night's episode. He just seemed befuddled. I didn't quite catch if he was the one who made the call that it wasn't murder

It’s true that the police themselves may not be expected to ascertain exactly what happened immediately. But as the DI said last night they should have treated the scene as a homicide until proven otherwise, not the other way around. The forensic science experts apparently said that although the cooker was hot it wasn’t hot enough to have started a fire

But old people fall over all the time, police are probably called out to them all the time, I know my friend who’s a paramedic spends most of his time lifting old people off the floor. I can forgive them for thinking an old lady’s fallen over, no sign of forced entry or a struggle, no blood splatter, possibly she’s set the tea towel on fire and shocked herself and fallen down dead.