MAFS #5- Stevo is a massive knobbo, Ixperts are still gaslighting the contestants. We wish for more and get nothing but sad care bears. NO SPOILERS

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You lot need to stop talking so much. I am 3 pints of gin in, it's hard work with everyone wanting to be in my business 😉

I don't think he comes across as an evil sexist. I think he comes across as someone with some old fashioned views. But then I don't think Grace comes across as strongly as you are saying either, not to me.

I agree @Doubleraspberry

Ok well I know what I mean 😜 don’t mean literally evil - but it makes sense in my little brain so I’ll leave it at that!

Just started a thread. Will delete if someone already has one.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5423516-mafs-6-now-bez-has-gone-who-will-follow-perhaps-paraper-the-rapper-steve-who-lives-to-deceive-or-the-polite-misogynist-who-just-wants-to-be-loved
cocked up the title as in a rush before this thread gets full!

Upbringing can and often does play a part but there are plenty of misogynistic men who have feminist sisters or mothers that they would never date (even if they weren’t family).

I have two male cousins raised in the same household, one listens to Andrew Tate the other is a feminist as is their sister.

Family relationships and their influence on others are complex.

Again, I know a lot of men who expect women to look or act a certain way based on sexist ideals - and yet their female family members look or act nothing like that.

I don’t think that Ashley being attracted to a stunning woman like Grace says he’s not that sexist either. Even without makeup it’s still very clear she’s slim, very feminine looking and conventionally attractive. And his family have seen her all glammed up as well the first time they met her.

But some of the conflict is around the fact it appears he possibly would like her to be a bit more groomed or dressed up, hence her pushback about his comments, the dreaded dress-gate and nail gate etc

Btw, I don’t feel he is or is being portrayed to be an “evil misogynist or sexist” - Grace even said he was a lovely guy.

I don’t think anyone is saying he isn’t better than Steven? Certainly no one is saying he’s worse.

I get what you mean. Don’t sweat it 😉

Thank you

Same, I think that’s how he comes across too. I certainly don’t have strong feelings against him and last time I checked he had quite a lot of support on social media.

And as we’ve all said and can probably all agree on- I think it was a poor match. Interesting to see what happens tonight!

Touch me

And then you push me

Get my nails done

Then put a dress on

Coz I can't get no

Mafsasfaction. Mafsasfaction. Mafsasfaction.

Ashley comes across as one of those men who wants a wife who looks good on his arm while he’s off shagging other women behind her back.

I agree with everyone saying that Grace shouldn't have gone on this show. I'm not sure she'd have coped with anyone.

Anyone who watches Strictly - you know how Kai looks like he's from the wrong decade? Jon (Blinkless) seems like that too.

Or, at the very least, expectations of how the relationship would be progressing should have been made from the get go. Perhaps that discussion did take place, it doesn't look like it did judging by how both of them are acting and constantly misunderstanding each other.

She's definitely not into any kind of 'banter'.

Yes I completely understand what you’re saying

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the thread.

Fin.