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Netaporter · 08/07/2025 10:20

Doubleraspberry · 08/07/2025 09:59

Not when he just wants to channel himself into writing his book (that's been written about a dozen times by other writers: what's left to say about Margaret Thatcher?)

Probably a lot but it needs to be written by a political historian who has found a new angle/archival material/interviewees. Just like there's absolutely nothing new to say about Henry VIII unless you've done a load of research into new sources and found something interesting to add to the historiography of him. And it's vanishingly unlikely that the same person would be writing about both people with any credibility.

I realise it's niche but this is annoying me enormously. NOTHING about his 'biography' writing makes sense. It's an insult! And I hear that the Writer's Room podcast is tremendously proud of their diligence in thinking about what this book has in it and the writers have found an urban myth about Thatcher's inventing Mr Whippy ice cream which is apparently the big deal in the imaginary book.

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As I mentioned the thread, Mrs T’s biography was extensively done by Charles Moore who was a heavyweight editor of publications including the telegraph. So unless Duncan is about to unveil Margaret Hilda as a covert Scientologist I can’t think that there is anything that is left to be said.😂 as an aside, Carol Thatcher’s memoir I read at the time of publication and found it to be fascinating.. but again, unless Duncan is Dennis‘s secret Love child, I don’t see how he can give any more insight on her as a subject!

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Eldermileniummam · 08/07/2025 10:31

The Carrie and Aidan thing as so weird! I expected her to dump him but when she said she understands how it could happen I thought she would say she understands but they can't continue. It's Kathy the mother of his children! It was so wet.

I also don't buy how suddenly she's been sleeping with other people?! When had this ever been mentioned before?

Eldermileniummam · 08/07/2025 10:34

GellerYeller · 07/07/2025 08:35

Was I the only one finding Carrie overly precious about her ‘vintage’ glass? If they’d been in a longer relationship surely she’d have been told to get over herself, no way would Aiden have been driving all over the place to replace it.
Plus they’re rich enough to find a company that specialises in what we’d call listed buildings here.
Then I really overthought it and realised that place must be draughty as hell!

No I thought the opposite. I thought why is a grown man in his 50s(?) throwing stones at a glass window and then being shocked when it broke. It's supposed to be his house too so he should know about the glass but of course that's not the reality. I'd have been annoyed if I were Carrie!

Saying that, she was more annoyed about the glass than about him sleeping with Kathy!!

Holluschickie · 08/07/2025 10:46

Aidan was throwing stones because that was their way of contacting each other all through S 3 and 4 of SATC. Though he should have thrown a pebble.

PurplebeadedFendi · 08/07/2025 10:54

Eldermileniummam · 08/07/2025 10:31

The Carrie and Aidan thing as so weird! I expected her to dump him but when she said she understands how it could happen I thought she would say she understands but they can't continue. It's Kathy the mother of his children! It was so wet.

I also don't buy how suddenly she's been sleeping with other people?! When had this ever been mentioned before?

It doesn't make sense. It's the writers flailing. The 5 year separation was a ridiculous idea to begin with. Aiden and his family are boring. The only thing that made Aiden interesting in the first place was the fact that Big was always looming in the background of their relationship, and for a time, Carrie wanted him as the anti-Big. Without that tension, he's just a bore who Carrie wouldn't look at twice.

She only ever really wanted him when she couldn't have him. She cheated on him with Big at the first opportunity. When he didn't want her back the second time, she claimed she had never stopped thinking about him (total BS, the only man she obsessed over was Big) and demanded he take her back. As soon as he wanted to marry her, she started rejecting him. She didn't seem at all upset over the break up, more upset about being potentially homeless. She obsessed over him not liking her 2nd post break up ( the Nina Katz episode), but she cared more about what people thought of her than of Aiden's actual feelings. When she bumped into him with his baby, and they said they should go for coffee, she walked away pretty much saying she'd never see him again - no feelings there, she really wasn't interested in him. And that was only a year after breaking up with him.

She had a dalliance with him in Abu Dhabi because she was in a bad place with Big, nothing more, but it's Big she ran back to. She only wanted him post Big's death as a comfort blanket, but the messy reality of his life is not something she wants. She's got an idea of what her life might have looked like had she stayed with him originally, and she's probably breathing a sigh of relief that she didn't. His cheating with Kathy has given her the exact excuse she needs to back away with no blood on her hands this time. And to put an end to an unsustainable plot line. Let's hope that's the end of it.

Holluschickie · 08/07/2025 10:58

PurplebeadedFendi · 08/07/2025 10:54

It doesn't make sense. It's the writers flailing. The 5 year separation was a ridiculous idea to begin with. Aiden and his family are boring. The only thing that made Aiden interesting in the first place was the fact that Big was always looming in the background of their relationship, and for a time, Carrie wanted him as the anti-Big. Without that tension, he's just a bore who Carrie wouldn't look at twice.

She only ever really wanted him when she couldn't have him. She cheated on him with Big at the first opportunity. When he didn't want her back the second time, she claimed she had never stopped thinking about him (total BS, the only man she obsessed over was Big) and demanded he take her back. As soon as he wanted to marry her, she started rejecting him. She didn't seem at all upset over the break up, more upset about being potentially homeless. She obsessed over him not liking her 2nd post break up ( the Nina Katz episode), but she cared more about what people thought of her than of Aiden's actual feelings. When she bumped into him with his baby, and they said they should go for coffee, she walked away pretty much saying she'd never see him again - no feelings there, she really wasn't interested in him. And that was only a year after breaking up with him.

She had a dalliance with him in Abu Dhabi because she was in a bad place with Big, nothing more, but it's Big she ran back to. She only wanted him post Big's death as a comfort blanket, but the messy reality of his life is not something she wants. She's got an idea of what her life might have looked like had she stayed with him originally, and she's probably breathing a sigh of relief that she didn't. His cheating with Kathy has given her the exact excuse she needs to back away with no blood on her hands this time. And to put an end to an unsustainable plot line. Let's hope that's the end of it.

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All true.
Carrie and Aidan are incompatible. All that shrieking over squirrels in SATC should have told him that!
Who would want Aidan's messy family really?

CowTown · 08/07/2025 11:04

@SpryLilacBird the actress who played Bunny has passed away, so no reunions expected on that front.

Doubleraspberry · 08/07/2025 11:11

Netaporter · 08/07/2025 10:20

As I mentioned the thread, Mrs T’s biography was extensively done by Charles Moore who was a heavyweight editor of publications including the telegraph. So unless Duncan is about to unveil Margaret Hilda as a covert Scientologist I can’t think that there is anything that is left to be said.😂 as an aside, Carol Thatcher’s memoir I read at the time of publication and found it to be fascinating.. but again, unless Duncan is Dennis‘s secret Love child, I don’t see how he can give any more insight on her as a subject!

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Absolutely - there will be many more books about Thatcher but they will be written for specific reasons - eg two very recent biographies of Harold Wilson close-ish together, one by Ben Pimlott and one by Alan Johnson, so different angles there. Henry VIII 'biographies' are written by people who spend years and years reading obscure bits of parchment trying to find something worth saying. And often it's as dry as anything - a friend of mine is in a heated debate over several years via a series of article footnotes with a competitor over the exact introduction of some type of punctuation in manuscripts for example.

Corners of the internet by the way are outraged that they are meant to like a man who has chosen to write a book about a women who was so hated by the gay community (a book about a man who murdered his wives apparently less controversial🙄).

He's also going to struggle to find any material to put in it given that he does no work in London, where all the research would need to be done, but then sits in a room in New York and pours out his clever biographyness about a woman.

EachandEveryone · 08/07/2025 11:12

Did they kill Nathan Lane off? I can’t remember

Doubleraspberry · 08/07/2025 11:15

EachandEveryone · 08/07/2025 11:12

Did they kill Nathan Lane off? I can’t remember

He died in Covid (of Covid?).

TheStroppyFeminist · 08/07/2025 13:12

PurplebeadedFendi · 07/07/2025 15:50

I can't imagine mutton being readily for sale in Manhattan. Or him cooking it, tbh. I hope there's not some mutton dressed as lamb metaphor going on here.

Betcha there is! 😂

TheStroppyFeminist · 08/07/2025 13:22

@PurplebeadedFendi I love your posts on this thread, I agree with a lot of them, especially about the Kim Cattrall / Samantha texting. It doesn't feel right to be using the character in some way.

I'm not sure that Carrie would have filled her fridge for Miranda coming to stay because Carrie used to keep sweaters in her oven in Manhattan, she didn't use it so why would she start buying food and cooking it at home now? I agree that Char would have had the nappies delivered for sure.

I also agree about the disappearing characters, why never mention Stanny or Che or Samantha for that matter (except for aforementioned texts)?

PurplebeadedFendi · 08/07/2025 14:54

Thank you @TheStroppyFeminist , that's kind of you to say. SATC is a programme that means a lot to me, and seems to mean a lot to many women. I'm enjoying AJLT, but I feel like the writers have stripped away all the redeeming features of Carrie that made me root for her despite her flaws, and the love story with NY is almost non-existent. Samantha, to me, was the main source of heart, humour and nonjudgmental acceptance, and it pains me the way they have abused the character since the movies.

But I have found myself looking forward to the new series, and I hope that we have a better story arc for Carrie, now that Aiden's removed himself. The trailer for the next episode looks promising, a bit of new romance perhaps? I wonder if Duncan hangs up his pipe and mutton pot and starts wooing her. Or whether we'll get a reverse Berger situation and a harsh critique by him of her fledgling novel, "scrunchie-gate" like.

greengreyblue · 08/07/2025 16:20

PurplebeadedFendi · 08/07/2025 08:55

Mutton is quite common in Middle Eastern cooking, so maybe a Middle Eastern butcher is where Duncan is sourcing the stuff. However, I maintain that I can't see him bothering to search around Manhattan when he can easily buy something more appetising! Not when he just wants to channel himself into writing his book (that's been written about a dozen times by other writers: what's left to say about Margaret Thatcher?).

I don't really miss Nya as she didn't have much of a story, although I liked her character. However, I wish they would give these departing characters some mention/closure rather than just (almost) pretending they never existed. Even Che deserves better than this, and I bloody hated her character! They all used to meet up, after all, for lunches and so on, so shouldn't their absence be remarked upon? Especially Che, who was Carrie's go-to for advice for a long time, and a character who had a big story arc. It's not hard, surely. Nya could just have gone to be a visiting professor at another university/in another country. Che could have gone back to LA to try to recover her career. And if they are pretending Stanford is still alive and living in Japan - why is he never mentioned? And what about the marriage of Stan and Anthony? Surely that's still unresolved.

The flip side is that I feel really uncomfortable that they are using Samantha in London for long distance advice for Carrie. I don't know why....maybe just knowing about the animosity between Kim Catrall and the rest of the cast makes me feel icky they are using her fantastic Samantha (that character is very much owned by KC) as a crutch for Carrie at a distance. I know Kim had the cameo, but frankly I thought that was shabby. The way Carrie acted surprised and annoyed that Samantha was intending to come for the last supper instead of of ecstatic and then disappointed in couldn't happen. It just felt a bit too much like their real life animosity being written into fiction. It felt bitchy and like a control move over the character and the actor.

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I agree .No mention at all! Poor writing. Carrie never refers to Big either. Weird.

greengreyblue · 08/07/2025 16:22

I think Carrie is on antidepressants or something. She seems to feel and show very little.

Nettleteaser101 · 09/07/2025 04:40

Netaporter · 08/07/2025 09:36

Latest trailer is up on insta/socials….

Definitely various attraction vibes for Carrie and Seema. My prediction is that the gardener is absolutely loaded but Seema dismisses him….

I also agree with @RealPearlDuck in that they are soft launching the Carrie/Aidan break up and I’m also here for it. If you look at the comments under the trailer posts on any platform it is clear this is what the viewers want.

I rewatched the original movie last night because there was nowt on telly I wanted to watch and thoroughly enjoyed it. I still cry when Miranda and Steve reunite on the bridge 🥰

I rematches it too. Love Steve then and Al Green singing, one of the best scenes in SATC.

Scorchio84 · 09/07/2025 11:46

Claymoreiron · 06/07/2025 22:59

Started rewatching SATC. Forgot it was only 30 minutes long. They are all so young and pretty.

Looking at it now, I find Samantha tedious. They way she letches after men is unpleasant

I agree with this (one of my friends is a Samantha) but she also is a good friend

Scorchio84 · 09/07/2025 11:49

PurplebeadedFendi · 05/07/2025 12:15

I thought the Michael Kors might be a reverse snobbery thing. Wasn’t Lisa carrying an Hermes? Lisa is Manhattan, theatre lady is Queens I think - Lisa made a comment about “crossing the bridge” to come and see her as if this was a big burden. Theatre woman seemed to imply Lisa didn’t cross the bridge enough to see her dad and she’s become above herself. Reminds me of the SATC snobbery about Brooklyn and Staten Island, and the time in the post it episode where they are chased by girls from one of the boroughs saying you “city girls” think you are so superior (or something like that). Not sure how MK feel about the writing around that bit of product placement, but it wouldn’t be the first time AJLT have dissed a placed product- eg Peleton.

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beyond the point but I loved Samatha's outfit in this episode (Don't hate me)

Scorchio84 · 09/07/2025 11:57

Aiden (bore) was harking back to an earlier SATC episode when he threw a stone at her window

greengreyblue · 09/07/2025 17:03

Just watched series 3 ep1 when they go to Staten Island firemen strip show. Hungover Charlotte the next day “ I’ve been dating since I was 15, I’m exhausted, where is he? “ 😂

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/07/2025 20:57

greengreyblue · 07/07/2025 17:26

Well yes , he did go online but as he only had a day I’m guessing he wanted to fix it before he left. Carrie made such a fuss and them moaned he was gone trying to find her stupid rainbow glass! Just watched it again( I miss bits first time round) and I still can’t believe she got into bed with him after he accidentally shagged his wife!

Yep. I said that. No self respect at all

GellerYeller · 09/07/2025 22:15

I wondered if the writers were going for an ‘older, wiser, different perspective’ take on Carrie with the 5 years thing. The worst did, literally, happen to her: Big died. Maybe she doesn’t sweat the smaller stuff as a result.
But now we have Carrie’s somewhat unlikely reaction to Aiden sleeping with Kathy.
All I hear in my head is Samantha telling her to get the hell out.

PurplebeadedFendi · 10/07/2025 10:31

Scorchio84 · 09/07/2025 11:49

beyond the point but I loved Samatha's outfit in this episode (Don't hate me)

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Which one, when they went to Bed? I remember really coveting Carrie's draped hooded number she wore there. And of course there was Miranda in her skinny jeans looking incredibly pretty - why oh why didn't she go home with that beautiful red headed man she ended up in Bed with? Charlotte in a denim skirt and sparkly halter, which I always thought was an out of character look for her. I remember Samantha in a backless top and jeans? She always looked incredible, although out of the four of them, her clothes were the ones I least coveted - probably because we are diametrically opposite in height, shape and colouring, and her power dressing and block colour choices were too bold for me.

SpryLilacBird · 10/07/2025 13:36

HelloCheekyCat · 08/07/2025 07:16

@SpryLilacBird

recently saw a deleted scene where Charlotte and Harry bumped into Trey in the Hamptons!

Where? Please share 😚

I can't remember where. I'll do my best to find it and share it, but I'm not very technical!

legolegoeverywhereandnotadroptodrink · 10/07/2025 13:44

What was the dig at Michael Kors? Was that a dig? Not pricey enough for LTW?

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