Who Killed Jon Bonet Ramsey

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Anyone watching it on Netflix? Half way through the 2nd episode.

not a shred of evidence against the family so far but that ransom note is so so odd

that poor poor girl 😔😔

The ransom note is absolutely not a ransom note. That is the biggest anomaly of the case. I'm still leaning towards her having something to do with it, but i just don't think that anyone can know. I really hope that it gets solved though.

I'm left no the wiser after watching it. But the BPD are fucking morons, it's fair enough having a gut feeling about who the murderer is but you can't just make up theories to 'prove' it. I think Steve Thomas got a bit carried away with media interest.

The parents seem cold and never refer to her by name, just 'that child' which is like they're distancing themselves from the situation. I've always thought Patsy did it as seemed like an angry person.

Iirc the knickers were from a new pack that had been bought in an incorrect size and the DNA was trace and so minute it could've been from male factory packers/workers.

Yes , even the 999 call Patsy calls herself The Mother.

I feel horrible for the poor mumma that passed never knowing the truth. The dad and brother I believe are clear. I honestly believe that someone was tracking and wanted to frame the family. It is the most horrible case.

Not rtft yet but just wanted to add a couple of things I'd noticed on the doc so....when they were saying about John going straight to that room in basement after the police told him to search the house and John says " that was the obvious place to go cos that's where the bo...and then he corrects himself he was going to sayb"cos that's where the body was"

And at the end of episode two well the overall end in the Xmas vid when pasty says to jonbenet "show dad what you got" did anyone else notice Jonbenets face when she looked at her dad........

I think that John Karr and possibly Gary Oliva but definitely JK were part of a Paedophile ring along side Jon Benet Ramsays true killer.

These people like to swap stories, pictures and recordings of crimes they've committed with other like minded weirdos. I think it's entirely possible that John Karr perhaps even shared his fantasy about a little blonde pagent queen to his special friends and one of them decided he wanted to steal the object of his friends desires.

I think this person stalked and observed the family for a period of time, gained entry to the open home whilst the Ramsays were out, eventually set up camp in the guest room, wrote the nonsensical ransom note with the intention of taking JBR but ultimately not returning her and then it all went to pot.

Exactly. People seem to think the DNA evidence in this case was some kind of smoking gun, but it was absolutely minuscule and could have been from a factory packer of the underwear. It was not semen and not conclusive of anything. It was also corrupted.

The "ransom" note however is a fact that is so bizarre that it cannot be explained away.

The poor mum was involved in. I feel horrible that she did without being brought to justice.

But we don’t know who wrote the note, do we? The only conclusive thing about that is that someone wrote it, it is in no way a smoking gun in this case.

Is the dna from the underwear the same dna from under JBRs fingernails?

The content of note, its length, the fact it was written using Patsy's stationary inside the house (which was then neatly stored away), the fact that there were several drafts of it found in the trash - all of this indicates the note was written by the family.

Yep.I can't get past that. Without that note- or with a different note- I would have gone with the intruder theory.

You can’t seriously think that is anymore credible than the DNA evidence?

Yes, it is.

This has never been mentioned until this new John Ramsey commissioned documentary appeared

Yes. It just wasn't a credible ransom note at all.

So the dna in the underwear couldn't be from a man handling them in a production line during manufacturing then.
There was also evidence that JBR had been trying to prise the ligature from around her neck... she was still alive whilst that was being done, not staged after she was already dead from a blow to the head.
I also don't think her parents would shove a paintbrush into their daughters vagina either, it's a step too far if it was a genuine cover up.

What about the possible stun gun marks?

Have the police said this is untrue?

Just listened to a podcast about this poor girl on Crime Junkie. The whole thing is so weird and the police were totally incompetent.

Apparently the ransom was 3 pages long but written using the parent's notebook and pen, who turns up to a house to kidnap a child and stops to write a 3 page long ransom note?

I also don't think her parents would shove a paintbrush into their daughters vagina either, it's a step too far if it was a genuine cover up.

Me too. Funny how none of the people on this thread who believe JonBenét
was murdered by John or Patsy or both have tried to explain the sexual assault, other than it didn’t happen.

Parents have done worse to safeguatd their images or standing. Not to put too fine a point on it.
See the Menendez brothers.

, Dr Spitz and Dr Lee are a bit skeptical about the assault theory, and any DNA found on the underwear ,
Dr spitz , also ruled out the claim that jonbenet was a sleep all the time , her dinner would have been digested by the time she was killed. He also came up with the torch on the kitchen table as a possible murder weapon.

I think it’s possible she was being sexually abused prior to that night.
It might explain the bed wetting and her habit of getting into bed with her brother (for support/ protection)