24 hours in police custody.

[Toddlerteaplease]

What a horrible man!

Sone of the details shared with us were totally unnecessary. And they had the cheek to say he was strange as he liked Netflix horror then gave us all that nasty details!

I agree @burnoutbabe . Some of the graphic details about how he disposed of the body were horrible. I suppose it showed us what a callous man he is (although we could already deduce that without the detail) and showed what horrible things police officers have to hear & see as part of their enquiries. One of the detectives was visibly shaken after that interview. But was it necessary that viewers heard those things? And what about Annette's dignity in all that? Did the viewing public need to know about the detailed violation of her body? I say no, we didn't.

Also what was with that ghastly bit of film about funeral directors preparing a body? That was completely unnecessary in my view.

24 hours in Police Custody was a good programme, showing how evidence is gathered, the deadlines to which the police work, and the deviousness of some criminals that the police have to use ingenuity, skill & hardwork to overcome. It doesn't need to be sensationalist.

I agree with the general disappointment in the latest episodes. Can you imagine being family and seeing the neighbours Luke and Lois lolling about and discussing this Paul Burrell-esque.

And how do they have so many recordings of phonecalls? It wasn't just with Anette, there was also the Cash4Gold.

I assumed Cash for Gold record all their calls, ostensibly for "training puposes" but I also wondered if its to protect themselves because they are at such risk from criminal activity.

Having watched the second episode I agree. It was more financial motives

The neighbour said she and Scott were the only ones who went in the house.

I think she benefitted from having him as company. Maybe people all thought he was paying rent as her lodger.

Yes @BerriesConesdespite the police referring to her ‘family’ it is pretty telling that she welcomed a near stranger into her home and even said in a message to her young neighbour (the one she paid for driving lessons) ‘I love you’ , that she was lonely and subsequently vulnerable to exploitation.
She may have technically had living family relatives but they obviously were not actively involved in her life.

This happened where I live (I didnt know anyone involved personally!). People have been very quiet about the documentary as I don’t think it showed the local community which is known as being very friendly in great light - if she became unwell after having been life and soul and no one checked up, there’s a lot of very fair weather friends going on. That said Scott was very well known as he used to run a local bar, he just won’t even have been doubted….

Appalling case but I felt the two episodes were dragged out and very strangely edited. They showed bits of the same interview a few times each, and the Netflix bit was laughable.

I mean he's admitted murder but now you're trying to turn the screws over how many gold chains he flogged for cash, the momentum is not with you.

So much for Annettes friends, just such a sad end to a life.

I think the stuff about the gold chains was to point to motive. Originally he was telling the police that he was Annette's carer, that she was demanding and that he was worn out from caring for her. In reality his motive wasn't because he was at his wit's end but because he wanted financial gain.

I didn't catch the beginning as to why Anne didn't have council arranged care rather than "relying" on someone who at best was only there for the pizzas she got him and at worst set out from the get go as a gold digger to do her in.

At least if the council were sending in carers she would have been under the eye of social services and ironically had a rotating cast list of visitors for care work like when she wasn't housebound

@Lalgarh I agree. There did seem to be a big chunk of this story missing. From what I could make out she'd been house bound for a few years since a "small stroke". Did her family (step son) never visit and see how she was living? Step son kept saying how close the relationship between himself and Annette had been. Was he not in regular contact and didn't he realise she was missing (I appreciate step child/step parent relationships are not always close but he seemed keen to talk about how she'd been a mum to him)

Or maybe family did try to intervene and were either discouraged by Scott from finding carers or Annette refused to have carers go in to help take care of her - I read on the elderly parents thread on mumsnet just how difficult some elderly people can be towards carers.

Just watched this and agree with many that it was one of the worst episodes of a usually good series . Why did they drag it out to two episodes , one would have covered it and it should have been edited differently as for the first 30 minutes at least we were under the misapprehension that she was a sprightly 70+ not an infirm virtually bed bound 70+ , which was so relevant to the case . If I was the family and friends I’m not sure I’d have wanted it aired as they certainly didn’t come out of it looking good at all .

He was a diabolical man. I can’t believe the length of the pauses when he answered questions. “Have you done this before?” Then 5 second pause before he answered. So odd. Has he killed before? The brief reference to Anne’s father dying was interesting - no evidence though. An appalling man.

I wondered why he paused so long when asked if he’d killed before. I bet he has.

I think this was raised earlier, but how did Annette leave a voice message on her young neighbour’s phone wishing him merry Christmas when she’d been missing since mid November?

I assumed it was a message that he’d saved from a previous year , he did seem to have lots of voice messages from her , very weird man .

Yes that pause made him look guilty of killing more than Annette

I was half watching, half scrolling internet so when I saw the woman lay on her sofa being interviewed I thought “wtf is she doing??” Very odd.

Definitely not his first rodeo. Truly scary individual,he reminded me of Fred West in the interviews, the way he just talked normally then dropped the fact he was hacking her to bits.

I watched the Butcher of Suburbia episodes and thought the same as everyone else.
He was very calculated and agree he may have killed before - surely if you haven't then you'd be 'no' straight away, not having to think about it.

Do you think they’ve put something a bit poor quality out there just to try to raise awareness? Prompt people in to coming forward with other possible murders?

Well it was certainly a very interesting (if that’s the right word) case but maybe the footage was cut short by the fact he just admitted it so they had to pad it out.
I agree with a pp that said she obviously had lots of fair weather friends that probably enjoyed her hospitality, buying all the drinks etc but when that stopped no one tea cared enough/at all.
What on earth was the cleaner doing not raising an alarm to the neglect but she was probably another hanger on getting paid and doing shit all so didn’t want to rock the boat.
So many gaps and unanswered questions, has anyone googled it there might be more details?