MAFSAUS Thread 5: Delusions, Gaslighting, Icky Dickie, The Lobsters, Byron Bust Ups, Revelations, Secrets, Smacked arses, flirty hairdressers, drama queens, tantrums, nipples and a partridge in a pear tree….. (NO SPOILERS)

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Get your nipples to take several seats, because here we go again!!

Just caught up.

Richard is just plain resentful he isn’t getting his hole.

His answer to every criticism is ‘we haven’t kissed in 6 weeks/no intimate kisses in 6 weeks (fuck that shit)/we haven’t been physical for 6 weeks.

No response to his over sharing/his sulks/why Andrea might feel uncomfortable.

Just ‘I haven’t been intimate’.

And if that was the only man left on this earth? I’d be chapping down the door of a nunnery quicker than you can say wimple.

Andrea might like sick Richard. In sickness and in health my arse.

I’d be aiming for widow.

Interesting. I thought they are in these apartments for 8 weeks or however long the experiment is, but that not every couple is filming every day. So some days they are off doing their own stuff.

Is Jade not from Sydney, i.e. they could pop to the zoo with their daughter? I thought that's how it worked. That it didn't mean nobody wouldnt get to see their child (OMG what was her name 'I HAVE A CHILD'?) for weeks on end.

It's hard to know. Don't some give up their jobs for the duration of the experiment?

I believe they do stay together for the whole length of experiment. Last year Alyssa ("I have a child") said her daughter was brought to her every weekend for visits. I don't think they'd be able to "go home" (unless emergency or for home visits week) as this would interfere with the whole aim of learning to live together and get to know each other on a deeper level.

I did try and Google but too much other stuff started to appear and I don't want any spoilers 🤐

Yeah if Rich isn't getting sex for him it means she isn't into him. He might be a sex pest behind closed doors who knows. But I can see he is hurt as well - just the way he cried the other day. So he's carrying old stuff as well and is reading more into the current situation than need be.

Andy doesn't want to feel like a sex object he brags about. That's exactly what happened. A gentleman would have expressed himself differently about their 3-4 a day sex life on this couch.

Old Tim, oh my, I feel for him, I really do, but he shouldn't be there. He has so much baggage he needs long-term therapy.

And Lucinda, oh my god. I absolutely adore that women. I don't understand how she is single. Or actually I do. There must be very few men in her league.

Rich hurt?

Nah.

His wrist might be.

He cried to guilt Andi and to gain sympathy.

I say cried. Nope.

He needs to go to the Meghan school of squeezing a tear out. Left eye. Tear drop. Go….

@sdqtb No, I really don't see him as being that manipulative. He has blind spots, yes, but he's no Jack or Sara.

Oh those two were nice! Glad they're still together!

I think Richard is a very all or nothing person. When they were having the lunch with friends and family he was whining that Andi had zero feelings for him, whereas what she actually tried to say was she had gone off him a bit after the crude comments at the cc. So him saying they haven't even kissed for 6 weeks should be taken with a pinch of salt.
But whatever is or isn't going on, she's got the ick and he can't see it.

Not manipulative?

He so is. He is a grown man of 60 odd and he is sulking like a child because he isn’t getting his own way.

All would be rosy if she acquiesced.

I hope she does not.

I have heard that a lot of them from the last series actually spent most of their time in separate apartments, even the couples that were supposedly getting on OK.

I also think that they are not entirley accurate with the timing. I remember when Ellie and Ben were breaking up it appeared to us that they had an argument one evening then were together again the next day, but she said something along the lines of 'when we argued the other night' rather than 'last night'.

They do allow them to stay in separate apartments - it’s a safeguarding / duty of care issue (which is as much to do with mental health as anything).

It’s a pressure cooker environment - they have to allow them space to sleep alone etc.

That's true. If he could listen to what Andy is telling him I think he's more likely to want to understand where she's coming from. Unlike Sara and Jack who'd gaslight the shit out of everyone.

But Rich is so caught up in 'we aren't shagging, so this must mean the relationship is pretty much over' that he won't listen to what Andy is actually saying. It's kind of self sabotaging, because if that continues the relationship will indeed be over.

*Rich hurt?

Nah.

His wrist might be.*

🤣🤣🤣

The meet the family sessions with Rich and his daughter gave me proper coercive control red flags! The head down and "crying" because he's not getting any was purely manipulative! No wonder poor Andi has gone off him...creepy (not because he cried, all for men in touch with emotions, but because he used his tears as a form of control)

Indeed slightly

The tears were not of sorrow. It wouldn’t have surprised me if he’d been surreptitiously peeping for the reactions through his fingers.

All he had to do was scuff his feet and wipe his nose on his sleeve too and he’d have got the day off school.

I wonder if people would still be prepared to do the programme if they hired a block of apartments in a smaller city, away from their jobs, family and friends. It seems a bit ridiculous now.

I agree about Richard - at the friends and family meal, he really was behaving like a spoilt child. I suspect he was either spoiled to death by Mummy or massively neglected.

@dapsnotplimsolls yes agree. To me his crying and sad mood at the family meal seemed like an old abandonment wound opened, by maybe I am projecting.

Didn't the ixperts say one time on the couch that Rich's love language is sex/physical touch? Surely they must have interests etc. that would help heal and grow the bond and have sex again? He's stuck and can't see it.

Hopefully she has more self respect. I still remember her sobbing so much in her car en route to her wedding - sounds like she was really hurt in the past and doesn't need someone else disrespecting or trying to manipulate her into doing things she doesn't want to do. 🌹

@Abitboring

Didn't the ixperts say one time on the couch that Rich's love language is sex/physical touch? Surely they must have interests etc. that would help heal and grow the bond and have sex again? He's stuck and can't see it.

I think it's Alessandra who said that? I think that ship has sailed away now. 🌹

I couldn’t see a way back from the overshare. More so the way it was described.

I wouldn’t care to be intimate for fear of something similar happening again.

He may choose not to tell everyone at the commitment ceremony again that he did her every which way but loose, but she would always be wondering if he was bumping his gums about bumping her doors when out drinking with the boys.

Or worse.

With his daughter.

Can you imagine? It ain’t quite part of the ‘are you my new mummy’ conversation.

This. ^^

I think his daughter has become his mother.

Is there a spoiler thread. I've just watched the whole season and need Mumsnet therapy! 😂

Itching to see Lauren question Jack 😂😂