The Traitors S2 - THE AFTERMATH

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Discuss!

Looking at his voting history he wasn't great at voting for Traitors.

That was intentional. He knew he'd be offed if he put his head above the parapet. He was trying to stay in the game until he had fewer people to convince and more evidence.

Yes what’s with the tracksuits? Are they going for a squid game vibe maybe?
and the camera work is also shoddy. I am on episode 4 and there is a scene where they are all sitting in garden and camera shakes as it pans!
can’t beat the Scottish castle though. Australia doesn’t have any so I guess an old hotel is ok

Yes the camera wobbles alot. A hotel is fine but they could have chose a more grand location. I thought there were castles in Australia! The estate they used for the antique task would have been more appropriate. The host gives it a bit of a dynasty vibe, he reminds me of Blake Carrington

the aus one is good for a laugh, but its very ott. lacks the suspense of the uk one.

Another thing my son noticed with the Australian one is how the contestants are all very jocular with the host. Calling him Roger and having banter with him. As my son said none of the U.K. contestants would dare banter with Claudia. Yes they like her but it’s more hierarchical and respectful of her as host. He thought that was symbolic of the more egalitarian society that Australia has compared to our more class based ( and yes he did sociology gcse 🤣) but I think he’s possibly right!

He got his timing completely wrong didn't he. Leaving it until you had a few people didn't work with Mollie in the mix.

I'm not sold on him as a mastermind.

I thought he'd vote for Harry first, but I guess he knew that would result in a tie (he and Andrew voting Harry, Mollie and Harry voting Andrew) and then it would be decided by chance.

I guess he was banking on Mollie working it out at the very end, which was reasonable because it was blimmin' obvious really. Harry was honestly blindsided for the first time in the game.

My take on Jas is its all down to his trust issues. Because he had experience of someome so close to him betraying him (his Dad) - when he said he didn't trust anyone it was really true. So he didn't do any particularly amazing deduction but he was the only one not blinded by 'Paul's such a great guy' 'Harry's just a straight-forward lad' so he could see it could be them.

But same trust issues meant he couldn't build the social bonds, social capital he needed to persuade others.

Its like a greek tragedy - cassandra who always told the truth and no-one believed her. Flippin' loved it all.

Jaz!! spelling - sorry

@NonPlayerCharacter I agree. Jaz must have been tempted to vote against Harry in the previous round, but it would inevitably have resulted in a draw because no way was Mollie going to vote against Harry at that point. when it was down to just the 3 of them, he assumed Mollie would think logically and realise now that Jaz was a faithful, and that Harry might be a faithful but might not be! She made a stupid decision but that wasn't Jaz's fault. All the clues were there, she just couldn't seem to join the dots

Jaz did well to spot traitors and to duck and weave to the final but he left it too late with Harry. It's terrible he has never heard of Agatha Christie tho! (Mentioned on uncloaked)

Yes, and I think it's a better explanation than him being some kind of mastermind because I don't think his voting record or the way he played the game bears that out.

I've been catching up on Uncloaked and it's been really interesting. I've never really thought about how hard it is to stick to your path throughout the game as things get rougher and tougher. Everyone in the final did well just to get there.

I think Harry and Jaz did well but mollie got to the final by default, never saying much at round table and never sticking her head above the parapet. If she'd voted logically in the final round we might be congratulating her on a brilliant strategy - lie low, get protection from Harry by seeming loyal and then voting him out when it was the logical thing to do and sharing the winnings! But clearly she didn't have a brilliant strategy - she messed up.

I think watching Aus 2 confirms how well Jaz played it. He wasn't as sure as A and J, but he played his suspicions better.

It shows that, as a faithful, knowing or suspecting isn't enough and that surviving is as important as knowing (or suspecting).

Harry kept her alive too as an ally, when ever her name came up for murder he batted it away.

@LivingDeadGirlUK yes, Harry kept Mollie in for his own interests. She interpreted this as him genuinely being her friend - in a game called The Traitors!!

In a game called The Traitors… in which most of the contestants are Faithfuls.

Really not a character flaw that she thought they were both faithfuls and would split it.

Yes, well, he was using her as his very own human shield, wasn't he?

@WriterOfWrongs strange to mention character flaws. it was a poor decision from Mollje as by that stage the evidence was that Jaz was unlikely to be a Traitor, whereas Harry was an unknown. I think Mollie's reaction showed that she knew it was a poor decision too!

Aus series 2 is definitely worth a watch. The ending is a real jaw dropper but I won't say more than that!

The fact that they drove their own cars really spoke to the fact that all the budget went on the prize money because it sure as shit didn't go on production!

It's not being renewed for another season there. I guess it just isn't Australia's thing. Not sure it's mine any more either. It's starting to feel kind of cruel. I know they sign up for it, etc etc, but just because people let you doesn't mean you should.

I think it's a show with a short shelf life. I doubt I'll watch a third UK series, it will be corrupted by all the hype from this year.

Yes, it's becoming predictable where you know you'll end up with a traitor or two and usually the stupidest faithful (as in Australian s2 version).

Saying that, does anyone know when is S2, US going to be added on iPlayer?

Yep, its a shame the other traitors didn't nip that in the bud tbh. They were happy to back stab each other every other way!

I am hoping production are looking at how they can shape the format up to give it better longevity.

It needs more jeopardy for the Traitors. Something like a 'separate Traitor Pot of money' that only the Traitors can win (added to the normal pot) and Traitors can steal gold coins on tasks to go in the Traitor Only pot, but in doing so, run the risk of being seen/rumbled. I don't know - it needs something.

Or more 'in broad daylight' challenges for the Traitors