Traitors UK S2 Thread 5 - “Another man? Just like olden times”

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Welcome Faithfuls!

This thread is for Traitors UK S2. Posting at TV pace so if you are not fully up to date then beware of possible spoilers.

Hang up your cloak, and pull up a chair at thr Roubd Table.

Who would like to start?

Harry was furious at Ross talking to him when they were in the kitchen. It was quite funny when he kept trying to shush him

I really wish someone had overheard them

Will the Faithful wonder why Harry isnt murdered now there's no shield

What's the logic here, sorry I don't follow

Jaz probably is who has gone which is a shame because he’s been on the money with every guess and they either ignore him or he stays too quiet about it then goes with the group for fear of being accused of being a traitor 🤦🏼‍♀️

The rest don’t really have enough about them to stop Harry throwing poor old Andrew under the bus then walking away with the money. When he suggested getting rid of Mollie I thought that was an odd suggestion as they seem to be genuinely friends (part of me wonders if there’s more to it than that) but I was thinking he maybe wants her gone before he steals the money from the rest of them

Also I’m sure it’s on one of the 38 pages on here but Harry calls them FATEFULS 🤣

Wouldn't it be great if in the final, Molly suddenly listed all the reasons why Harry was a traitor and convinced the others to banish him. So she'd known all along and was just playing a great game 🤞

That is a good point - he had me convinced he had stopped suspecting Harry! But I fear he has been murdered. It would be amazing if he snatched victory from Harry at the last moment.

Will the Faithful wonder why Harry isnt murdered now there's no shield

I’m not sure he’s as much the obvious target as he was before all the infighting started.

I wonder why they didn’t consider murdering Evie? I’d have probably gone for her over Mollie in terms of the three who seem to be “at risk”

The issue with Zack is, he is often very very close to the mark….. but then ballses up the theories to push his own agenda 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I thought he was on to Harry with the sheild, but no. He used it to go after Jasmine instead.

Jaz has worked it out, but is also smart enough to know now is the time to pipe down.

I really want Jaz to be in the final! Clinging on to the fact that Harry's comment "I feel good about this one" fits more with Zack than Jaz after that episode. Definitely not Mollie as he wouldn't have said he felt good about her? Argh, can't wait for 9pm tomorrow!

Ross missed a trick at breakfast. When he said he didn't know about the shield, and was immediately accused of being a traitor, then he just should have said if he had been a traitor, he would have lied about it and said he did know.

He's counting on everyone believing he wasn't murdered because he had the shield. Will they twig when he still isn't murdered tonight?

If you were a traitor and a faithful stopped their murder with a secret shield, you'd be pissed off and want to get revenge by murdering them the next night.

I just thought Toss was being so stupid haha

Ross!!

We are definitely going to need another thread before tomorrow’s episode

But prior to getting the shield, why was Harry "worried" about getting murdered?

Yeah I’m not sure Ross had thought through how fast-paced that whole situation was going to be. He had about a 1 second window to say he knew before they were going to turn it on him, Andrew said he knew and you could see the realisation on Ross’ face when the whole thing had just turned on him

Bummer!!

Was really rooting for Ross' revenge but with Zach gunning for him over breakfast he lost his cool. He needed a day to lay low and recalibrate to being a traitor, and he just didn't get it. Sad to see him go.

I'm also gutted that he wrote Andrew's name at the end - Andrew didn't kill your mum, Harry did!! No revenge at all!! - and now Andrew has said the phrase "he threw me under the bus" MULTIPLE TIMES - apparently without realising that is literally a confession!?! I thought he was smart but he's DUMB under pressure. Protested waaaaaay too much at the round table and looked guilty as hell.

BUMMER!!

So new predictions are:
Jaz murdered tonight - bummer.
One of Jasmine or Andrew banished tomorrow - bummer either way.
And it going down to a final 3 or Evie, Mollie, Harry - then I'd be hoping for the blondes to be smart but I fear Harry will win it!

BUMMER BUMMER BUMMER.

Ah well, I've still enjoyed it and am excited for the next 2 nights.
Sort of.

I've noticed Jaz has been very effusive with Harry in the last few episodes - often first congratulating, greeting, and the like. Being very friendly and enthusiastic. IMO he wants to be seen as a harmless ally so he's kept to the end, then he can out him as the last traitor - not a bad tactic, in his position.

Harry is fully confident in Mollie, so will keep her to the end. But Mollie is having a tiny wobble over that, and I think she may actually trust Andrew more.

Evie is also seen as non-threatening, so they'll probably keep her, too. But she's on the fence over Harry, so no walkover

Then it just comes down to:
Wednesday night - Jaz or Zack murdered
Thursday - one banishment, probably Jasmine. One murder Jaz-or-Zack (last chance to get rid of a thorn) - unless someone else starts finger pointing and is seen as an immediate danger..
Final - Andrew, Harry, Mollie, Evie
This means Harry or Andrew will need to 'have suspicions' and force a vote to get the other out. Who will Mollie and Evie trust most? I actually think that could be Andrew.

tl:dr
More people have suspicions over Harry than Andrew. Barring a major mistake, Andrew could win.

Didn’t Mollie say she had suspicions about Andrew in the confessional chair tonight?

As a traitor, you want to end up in the final with another traitor only if you're certain you can get them banished (or you're certain they'll share with you).
And you want 3 (4 if no other traitor) faithfuls who would never suspect you.

Love this programme 🥰 My DH and I have binged Series 1 and 2 back-to-back! I can’t believe I didn’t watch the first series last year but in a way glad we’ve had this mammoth session of Traitors! What a gorgeous setting that castle is located in - Claudia has a cushty job presenting the show 😁
Paul was the absolute best villain imaginable. The role was made for him! But Harry has certainly not been out-done - he is a naughty boy! He has played the game very well but mustn’t get too big for his boots or will end up loosing it all at the end. I actually really like Andrew and even Jaz - I feel sorry that nobody ever believed him re Paul.
I can’t wait for next week’s episode already and will be so sad when it’s over!

I would LOVE this to happen, it's my dream scenario! This is what The Traitors is all about and would put right the travesty that was the ending of series 1.

I fear it won't though. I fear something will go wrong for Harry at the last minute and the dullest background characters will end up with the money, again. Evie is suddenly getting an awful lot more air time ... I suspect she'll be a finalist.

Please someone, anyone, just get Zach out! Never has there been a more annoying individual in this game. He's like a wasp or something.

Jaz might survive - Andrew said to Harry that Jaz has mentioned him. Harry slightly raised his eyebrow at that. He Wants to keep those who suspect Andrew.

I don't want Zach to go either. I like him.