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Traitors UK S2 Thread 5 - “Another man? Just like olden times”

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CaveMum · 20/01/2024 11:02

Welcome Faithfuls!

This thread is for Traitors UK S2. Posting at TV pace so if you are not fully up to date then beware of possible spoilers.

Hang up your cloak, and pull up a chair at thr Roubd Table.

Who would like to start?

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Ruminate2much · 22/01/2024 19:08

I really like Jaz too, and have also wondered about unconscious bias. Nobody listened to him re Paul; and even he credited Harry with Paul's banishment. Maybe off camera people acknowledged Jaz's correct discernment; but it didn't look like it to us.
Though, to be fair, he hasn't been right about everything. He was wrong about Ross and Miles. But nobody has been 100% correct. He's done a better job than most at finding traitors.

Ruminate2much · 22/01/2024 19:15

@periodiclabel fair point!
I know Aaron helped his mum buy a house, so just an assumption on my part with the others.
It's nice it went three ways anyway, rather than just one person taking it all. I guess if people had jobs that made them miserable, being able to quit and do something that makes you happy is no bad thing?

NonPlayerCharacter · 22/01/2024 19:16

periodiclabel · 22/01/2024 19:06

At the weekend I read Meryl and Arron had used their winnings to quit their jobs and becoming influencegrs, which I’m not sure is a great use of the money, but what do I know?

Good luck to them. £33k is obviously a lot of money but it wouldn't last long if it was all you had with no other income. Their follower numbers don't look high to me by influencer standards but I suppose engagement is what matters. Actually I thought Aaron wanted to use the money to buy his mum something.

Ruminate2much · 22/01/2024 19:27

@NonPlayerCharacter agreed. £33k is a big sum, but we're not talking millions and millions here. It could be used to set something up, or as a deposit for a home like Aaron's mum; but it's not an insane amount. It wouldn't go far if squandered on cars and holidays etc. Entirely up to them what they spent it on anyway. Best wishes to them.

theconfidenceofwho · 22/01/2024 19:28

AddieLoggins2 · 22/01/2024 17:27

If I was a traitor I would love to determine who was being murdered by some arbitrary means, like alphabetical or by the order the pictures are hung on the wall at breakfast.

Initially the faithful would tie themselves in knots trying to work out why someone random had been killed. And then when they did work it out they would know who was going to go next and be powerless to stop it. While also knowing that it wouldn't offer any clues as to who the traitors are!

The only problem is it wouldn't be great TV because viewers would know who was going to be in the final - or at least, who would not be murdered before the final.
And, more importantly, I can't work out what arbitrary measure I could use that would mean the traitors could be skipped without it being obvious that they must be the traitors! Confused

That would be such a great idea! They could move the pictures around occasionally to keep us guessing Grin

Ruminate2much · 22/01/2024 19:30

Re money - I reckon some of the contestants would end up with lucrative opportunities anyway. Apparently Diane has had offers. I'd love to say it's not about the money; but of course, in these straitened times, it probably is a massive motivation for most of the contestants. Totally understandable.

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 22/01/2024 19:33

I was listening to a podcast thus weekend, (apologies can't remember which one)

Apparently the origin of the game was one designed by Sociology students.

It was a game of chance to be selected but even though all the participants knew this they proved that natural prejudices took over logic.

Ruminate2much · 22/01/2024 19:36

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 22/01/2024 19:33

I was listening to a podcast thus weekend, (apologies can't remember which one)

Apparently the origin of the game was one designed by Sociology students.

It was a game of chance to be selected but even though all the participants knew this they proved that natural prejudices took over logic.

I'd be interested in listening to that...

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 22/01/2024 19:44

It was one of The Shrine Podcasts - The Traitors (episodes 7,8 or 9)

I was listening whilst running so it all blurred a bit. Something called Werewolf.

I studied Sociology so I thought it was interesting based on that premise

NonPlayerCharacter · 22/01/2024 20:08

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 22/01/2024 19:33

I was listening to a podcast thus weekend, (apologies can't remember which one)

Apparently the origin of the game was one designed by Sociology students.

It was a game of chance to be selected but even though all the participants knew this they proved that natural prejudices took over logic.

It's the same premise as Mafia, Werewolves, all those games. Did sociology students invent the concept?

ETA: Answered my own question. The Wiki page for the Mafia game answers it all.

wubwubwub · 22/01/2024 20:13

AddieLoggins2 · 22/01/2024 17:27

If I was a traitor I would love to determine who was being murdered by some arbitrary means, like alphabetical or by the order the pictures are hung on the wall at breakfast.

Initially the faithful would tie themselves in knots trying to work out why someone random had been killed. And then when they did work it out they would know who was going to go next and be powerless to stop it. While also knowing that it wouldn't offer any clues as to who the traitors are!

The only problem is it wouldn't be great TV because viewers would know who was going to be in the final - or at least, who would not be murdered before the final.
And, more importantly, I can't work out what arbitrary measure I could use that would mean the traitors could be skipped without it being obvious that they must be the traitors! Confused

The contestants are so din witted, they'd never work out the pattern!

Especially as the skipping if traitors would interrupt it!

They can't be even spell names like Charlotte, do you really think they'd spot the alphabetical order pattern that had a skipped name? Lol

TitsInAbsentia · 22/01/2024 20:15

Dotellhimpike · 21/01/2024 12:20

I thought Ross was quite clever in the back of the car when he did Diane's accent but he made it sound like someone trying to do an accent, in that it was far from perfect if you're from Northern Ireland. There's no way he can't do a prefect imitation of his mum's accent, all kids can but he chose to do it badly.

Paul's attempt at the accent was dire in comparison, but I bet he thought he was great 😂

Fluffywhitecloudsinthesky · 22/01/2024 20:17

One thing it does show is that most people are not, despite what they claim, any good at reading people. Plus being a 'convincing liar' is not terribly difficult unless directly questioned. Kind of makes sense how some people hide their affairs for years, before being found out (if at all).

I know I'm not good at reading people, I am always taken in by people who seem nice. I am good at spotting a break in behaviour though, from people's consistent patterns, so I'd be quite good in a six-month-long Traitor castle!

NonPlayerCharacter · 22/01/2024 20:24

I'm sure we've all had that experience where someone has us completely wrong but absolutely will not hear otherwise, no matter what.

wubwubwub · 22/01/2024 20:28

I love how they just pick on anything and claim it is "traitor behaviour"...oh so u like beans on toast do ya? Proper traitor tastes you've got.... Definitely a traitor!!!

Borris · 22/01/2024 20:31

We played a very similar game as kids called werewolf, where as well as were wolves (traitors) and villagers (faithful), there were also healers who acted like shields and chose someone to save each round and seers that could ask about 1 other member each round.

BonjourCrisette · 22/01/2024 21:16

We go on holiday with other families and play a murder game which is similar. There's just one murderer and they have to kill someone (or two people if lots are there) every day. Then at dinner, we have a round table type of thing, accuse a murderer based on votes and that person has to say if they were the murderer or not. It's much simpler than Traitors, but it is so much fun. If you have lots of people and can spin the game out for a while, people get really freaked out. And because you have to kill the person by actually telling them in person that they are dead, as time goes on people start to not want to be alone and go round in pairs to stop themselves being murdered. Of course, you don't want to pick the wrong person to hang out with...

I really love the idea of recruiting a murderer and am thinking how we could incorporate this if we have enough people!

theconfidenceofwho · 22/01/2024 21:20

That game sounds fab @BonjourCrisette ! Are there other rules? How does it actually work?

commonground · 22/01/2024 21:23

We play it as Mafia.

That's why I didn't watch it first time round, because I didn't fancy watching 22 randoms playing something I have to pretend to be interested in every Christmas.....how wrong I was!

I'm kind of looking forward to our next family gathering now....

(Mwah ha ha...)

herewegoroundtheblueberrybush · 22/01/2024 22:02

BonjourCrisette · 22/01/2024 21:16

We go on holiday with other families and play a murder game which is similar. There's just one murderer and they have to kill someone (or two people if lots are there) every day. Then at dinner, we have a round table type of thing, accuse a murderer based on votes and that person has to say if they were the murderer or not. It's much simpler than Traitors, but it is so much fun. If you have lots of people and can spin the game out for a while, people get really freaked out. And because you have to kill the person by actually telling them in person that they are dead, as time goes on people start to not want to be alone and go round in pairs to stop themselves being murdered. Of course, you don't want to pick the wrong person to hang out with...

I really love the idea of recruiting a murderer and am thinking how we could incorporate this if we have enough people!

Sounds like the least relaxing holiday ever!!! 😱

Fluffywhitecloudsinthesky · 22/01/2024 22:08

I don't like these kind of games at all! I was invited to a Werewolf type dinner party and I was mysteriously unable to attend. I can't cope with pretending and just find it very stressful.

herewegoroundtheblueberrybush · 22/01/2024 22:09

I think I could enjoy it for an evening, but an entire holiday would massively stress me out

Dotellhimpike · 22/01/2024 22:20

TitsInAbsentia · 22/01/2024 20:15

Paul's attempt at the accent was dire in comparison, but I bet he thought he was great 😂

Yeah, Paul's attempt was cringe.

BonjourCrisette · 22/01/2024 22:21

theconfidenceofwho · 22/01/2024 21:20

That game sounds fab @BonjourCrisette ! Are there other rules? How does it actually work?

Other rules are minimal. You have to do the murder in person (no notes). At the dinner table, the person who is murdered must state that they were murdered plus vague time/location (and you can make up a funny cause of death). Then you have the discussion and it is obviously forbidden for the victim to do anything obvious to give the murderer away. At the start, we just pick bits of paper out of a hat and just one has an M on it. And murderers have to tell the truth once accused!

It is not actually stressful (but we are a family of slightly competitive game players and tend to have similar friends). We rather enjoy the slight fear of wondering if you are going to be murdered and the fun of trying to avoid it.

I would sign up for a Traitors game in a heartbeat if I didn't have to go on the telly!

theconfidenceofwho · 22/01/2024 22:31

Sounds fab @BonjourCrisette

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