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The Traitors S2 Thread 4 "you wee shit"

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 18/01/2024 21:17

Carry On Faithfuls

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awaynboilyurheid · 20/01/2024 09:45

Oh Harry stop being so cocky! The “put her in her place” comment about Diane was very misjudged , especially as her son Ross was right beside him, might cost him dearly.
Ross is completely useless at guessing traitors but now he doesn’t have to guess, meaning he will turn on Harry.
I am just surprised they haven’t got rid of Jaz earlier he’s got it all worked out, I think the other faithfuls can’t take to him so don’t listen to him, he’s not a easy character to warm to.
I ‘m still Team Harry as I think he’s worked hardest for the money but he needs a session with Claudia about male misogyny!

Dulra · 20/01/2024 10:00

Choux · 20/01/2024 09:31

I am still enjoying the series but I am starting to think that there are some tip top producers planning the show and script. For example:

The most dramatic death is Diane's who has her son there to see her in a coffin. I think the traitor's are influenced on who to kill by the producers. Diane was killed after there was no wine left but then suddenly some appeared including fizzy rose - her drink.

I struggle to believe that Harry spotted the shield that the others couldn't find (yes the lights were going on and off but still) and then instantly decided to say nothing about having it as he all by himself realised he could use it to recruit another traitor without anyone knowing AND make himself look more faithful by saying 'they must have tried to murder me but I had a shield'.

I think the producers have been influencing the all female murders or maybe just noticed the early females and then ran with it. There is no way they didn't have input into the initial traitor selection - the success of the whole show rests on good contestant and traitor selection- and likely offered advice to the traitors about who would make a good traitor when they were recruiting. I don't believe Claudia made that comment about the olden days off the cuff. I think it was scripted.

Just as people were saying the Diana Ross connection came to nothing, Ross gets recruited as a traitor and then Harry who has never really been misogynistic says 'we put her in her place'. I think producers got him to dismiss her death that way by saying 'make Ross see how easy it is to kill someone'. And Ross was told to ask about how Diane (and possibly other faithful) died so they get their footage to help ramp up the veiwers' excitement.

TLDR - I am loving it but it's a lot more producer guided and scripted than it appears and is not a pure reality show.

I know post production has an input into what we see and obviously what happens in relation to the challenges, options to seduce or kill, murder in plain sight etc, but if they are interfering as much as you suggest with who is murdered, recruited by traitors and even what contestants say, the whole programme is pointless surely because it is completely manufactured. I hope that's not the case and wouldn't watch it if it is

commonground · 20/01/2024 10:09

Ever since Zach dismissed Jazatha's Harry theory without even really considering it, I think he doesn't deserve the win.

If it goes to good players, it should be Jaz to win or, reluctantly, Harry because, smug as he is, he is really thinking about the game. Or maybe if Ross can do a sneaky revenge move he could be a last minute worthy winner.

autienotnaughty · 20/01/2024 10:10

Loved Claudia's 'another man' comment 😂

Harry needs to be careful he's a little too cocky. Shield or no shield it's putting the spotlight on him that could back fire like it did on Paul.

Jaz is fantastic they need to kill him soon.

MadeOfAllWork · 20/01/2024 10:17

I think there is misogyny but I think it is unconscious.

But the facts are that they have killed one gay man and then exclusively women. They have thrown an Asian woman and a black gay man under the bus and replaced them both with white men.

sashagabadon · 20/01/2024 10:18

It’s got to be post production that is making the story arcs so perfect. There are multiple interactions between players but they edit in the ones that make sense afterwards. So for example they showed the conversation between Paul and jaz about what Harry had said to Paul as they knew it would be relevant later as they knew Jaz would use it for one of his theories about Harry. There must be multiple conversations they could have shown but that one was most obvious to use.
they didn’t really show Charlotte and Paul much despite them having an amazing bond ( I had no idea they did!) and that is because it was a dead end story. If Paul and Charlotte had been in the final we’d have been shown much more about their relationship over the nights so it would make sense and be more dramatic paul betrayed Charlotte in the final ( as he would)

sashagabadon · 20/01/2024 10:20

Because of this theory I think they are building up to Harry and mollie in the final ( we are getting bread crumbs about their friendship now) and the perfect ending would be mollie realising that Harry is a traitor and turning on him in the final vote 😁

FiveFoxes · 20/01/2024 10:21

Harry, whilst very smart with the shield move, I think has missed a vital point - who he wants in the final with him.

I am pretty sure he doesn't want other Traitors to share the pot, but both the others who he recruited could be very difficult to get banished.

And I am sure there will have to be faithfuls. I wouldn't want Jaz, Zach, Evie if I was him as potentially too clever. Or Jasmine as unpredictable. Which only leaves Millie and that's not enough. He should have kept Charlie in...

Samcro · 20/01/2024 10:43

i think Charlotte would have made a good traitor, jasmine also.
I don't like the way mollie is being made to look so weak. I imagine she is a strong woman in rl

commonground · 20/01/2024 10:45

I really hope Molly engages her critical thinking skills and wakes up to Harry soon or she is likely to have serious trust issues coming out of this.

He has played her completely. More so than the others I think. She is an easy target for him.

Yikes.

Let's hope she is playing a blinder and is not as clueless as she appears

Willmafrockfit · 20/01/2024 10:45

good point, how is harry going to find any dirt on andrew and ross

QueenOfThorns · 20/01/2024 10:58

commonground · 20/01/2024 10:45

I really hope Molly engages her critical thinking skills and wakes up to Harry soon or she is likely to have serious trust issues coming out of this.

He has played her completely. More so than the others I think. She is an easy target for him.

Yikes.

Let's hope she is playing a blinder and is not as clueless as she appears

She was a lot more vocal in the round table yesterday, so I think she’s engaging her brain a bit. She’ll work it out eventually when Harry continues to not be murdered, but will she run out of time first…

Theatrefan12 · 20/01/2024 11:00

I really don’t get the Jaz love. He comes across really arrogant to me and for that reason I wouldn’t want him to win

Saying that I didn’t like that one that was going after Wilf all the time last year so maybe I am just on the Traitors side too much

The personality change in Harry will be his downfall. Too cocky after everyone saying that he was “the man” after Paul’s banishing. Like the dungeon cock up was Paul’s downfall, the shield is going to be Harry’s I think

Andrew doesn’t trust him and Ross wants revenge

FruitBowlCrazy · 20/01/2024 13:57

MadeOfAllWork · 19/01/2024 20:53

DH pretends he doesn’t care, but then comments on who should be voted out etc.

Mine isn't interested, but he would make a brilliant traitor. A few years ago we went round to some friends for one of those murder mystery evening game things. I sat next to him all evening, and had absolutely no clue that he was the murderer. He completely hoodwinked me and everyone else with his innocent air of slight bafflement, and won.

notjaneausten · 20/01/2024 14:48

Thanks IGotItFromAgnes, I hadn't seen his eyes, just transfixed by the specs, so it worked!

Autumngirl7 · 20/01/2024 15:11

Wish it was on every day!!!

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/01/2024 15:18

Time

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/01/2024 15:19

to fill

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/01/2024 15:19

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IGotItFromAgnes · 20/01/2024 15:46

Almost

IGotItFromAgnes · 20/01/2024 15:46

Done

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/01/2024 15:49

I tried to fill it up but got banished for posting too often 😁

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