The Crown - season 6

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Is anyone else looking forward to this? The first part of the final season is on Netflix from 16th November (four episodes), and the second part (six episodes) from 14th December.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/the-crown-season-6

I thought the previous series was a bit boring so I'm hoping for more drama this time round.

I watched the third and fourth episodes tonight. Dramatic licence notwithstanding, I found it harrowing and moving. The scene with Al Fayed at the morgue was awfully sad and the procession behind the coffin as well.

I was prepared to not like Diana's and Dodi's ghosts thinking it sounded gimmicky, but it seemed to me that the ghosts were a projection of people's thoughts and it worked for me.

However, it does seem voyeuristic to have watched it and I agree with posters who said that the series should have stopped at an earlier point. I thought it was well done, but it was uncomfortable viewing.

I finished watching it last night.

I thought it was all brilliantly done! I loved their interpretation of what happened between Dodi and Diana. The actors who played Fayed and Dodi were terrific!

And I don’t think it was voyeuristic as it was quite a sensitive interpretation of all the individual main players.

And some of the best acting I have seen in years.

Debicki was absolutely brilliant as Diana but all the screen manifestations of her don’t come close to how attractive she was in real life.

I also thought this was one of the best Queen’s along with Claire Foy. Olivia Colman didn’t have the necessary inner implacability.

Btw I would love to know if the speech Charles’s gave in praise of Camilla saying “he had remained constant” and “never wavered” was (a) a made up text or the real thing or a mixture of both (b) an acknowledgment or indication that he had been unfaithful to Diana during their first five years of marriage.

Finally got through it too. I agree with @Borageandchips even though Debicki is stunning and her acting was faultless the true beauty of Diana can not be impersonated. It wasn't a beauty like a supermodel but something unique from within. You can see her so often in Prince William. It was the way she grew from shy Sloane Ranger Lady Di in 1981 to Revenge Dress confident woman in her prime and any woman who has suffered from PND or MH problems where your husband was blind to any support that would help knows how alone and paranoid it can make you feel.

I would have liked to see Prince Phillip, when doing the walk about when they returned to London, saying "That's what we have been doing!", when the lady in the crowd shouted look after the boys.
And the inaccuracy of the last phone call with the boys got on my nerves. I would have liked to have seen a scene of the cousins rampaging like cousins do when they meet up at the grandparents.
It wasn't one of the best seasons - too many inaccuracies for my taste.
I'm not a Diana obsessive. I felt really upset at the time how the Queen and Prince Phillip had been treated/scapegoated by the press and President Blair, so much so that when my daughter was born 3 weeks later we called her Lilybeth in tribute to her late Majesty!
The outpouring of grief really was unprecedented in this country, similar I guess to the reaction to JFK's death.or Elvis's and for me personally John Lennon's, Freddie Mercury's and George Michael's. People who touched your lives because of music and seeing them on television; people who kept you company in your bedroom as you were growing up.
No we didn't know these people personally but they were part of our lives for a long time and still are.

We are looking forward to the next four but I feel the historic feel has faded of the Claire Foy era because events were so recent.
I hope they show Uncle Edward and his production company jeopardising William's privacy at Uni. He is a member of the RF who has got away with doing so little

I thought MAF was played brilliantly. Credit to him in RL to have come from such humble beginnings to the man he became. Everybody seems to concentrate on negatives about him but personally I was sad to hear of his passing earlier this year. The scene in the morgue was very roar and well done perhaps a tribute to the man who lost his son and that has so often been ignored or because of his background an attitude of who cares.

I agree that the acting was superb. I can't talk about the inaccuracies because I don't know anything about that. I agree @Borageandchips that it was sensitively done. It captured all the shock, horror and grief of Diana's death very well and the ramifications for the Royal Family. I am trying to unravel why I found it difficult to watch. Perhaps it doesn't seem too long ago if you remember living through it. I was in my mid twenties at the time.

I thought the tension and sense of foreboding in episode three was really well done. Of course I knew the outcome, but in a way it was like I didn't - that's great TV. But I too hated the ghosts - thought it was a tacky device and made the fourth episode not as moving as it could have been.

I was also a bit distracted by the actor playing Prince Harry and his (very obvious) wig. Were there no pre-teen actors with red hair available?!

I watched the Diane Charles wedding and loved Diana! What a stylish woman she was, I know she had her faults( don’t we all) and mental health issues , my goodness she hadn’t had a happy childhood.
Really enjoyed watching the actress playing her, she did a great job, but yes agree I kept shouting, get on a plane back to London, DO NOT go to Paris!

After their divorce she felt she couldn’t trust so many people it was very sad I guess Dodi and his fathers money, offered her a similar lifestyle to royalty, private yachts, jets et al
I doubt however she was ready for marriage, I don’t know how much is true but to see the romance engineered by Al Fayed was something else. I think I read he did ask staff on the yacht if they were sleeping together.
Haven’t finished all episodes but I love the Crown,the early years with Clare Foy were brilliant!

@awaynboilyurheid I think a lot of the audience would be shouting 'don't go to Paris'! (Btw I love your username!)

I felt really sad about Diana's death when Prince William said what sort of Granny she would have made coming in and causing chaos at bath time. Very sad, as it is for all families, when a parent dies while the children are young.

It made me really sad, I was mid-20s when she died and I remember watching the funeral on TV. The fact they made W and H walk behind the coffin is just horrific to me having lost a parent in teenhood. Just heartbreaking.
As for M A-F - obv we don’t know the full story but he does not come out of this portrayal well at all. It’s def made me feel more sorry for Dodi though, if he really was so manipulated by his father.

I really enjoyed this series, even the ghosts, which I agree were a projection of the anlive characters’ thoughts, and not sure why the critics didn’t like it.

Although I feel a bit sorry for Mohammad Al Fayed and think Dodi was unlikely to have been quite so sweet and innocent as portrayed. But it is fiction so…

I hope they show Uncle Edward and his production company jeopardising William's privacy at Uni. He is a member of the RF who has got away with doing so little

He and his wife, like Princess Anne, did and do loads - of the less glamorous stuff.

I agree, the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh have been doing a lot of royal duties - for years - and quietly effective.

As for the Duke's company intruding on Prince William's privacy at uni, that was years ago and Edward did not authorise it; it was soon stopped and, most importantly, forgiven. People are really scraping the barrel to bring that up, and mistakes happen and nobody died. It probably will be shown in 'The Crown'.

It does go to show that even he now impeccable 'dont put a foot wrong' Royals have done stupid things/ shilled rich people to make even more money for themselves/ slagged off their family/ gone on telly and made fools of themselves but suddenly now when Meghan and Harry do it, its The Worst Thing To Ever Happen to our poor blighted Royal Family who only want to be 'umble farming folk but are forced to live a life of profligate luxury and go out in public to shake hands with poor people.

I hope the infamous Prince Edward gaff which majorly pissed off Charles in 2001 is featured because from what I recall, the years 1998 - 2005 ere generally boring for the RF and I don't fancy watching six episodes all about the Wills and Kate romance. Well, maybe Princess Margaret will be heavily featured in one episode since she died in 2002.

It would be great if they could detail prince Andrew’s fall but I guess that is too recent.

SRJ has done a great PR job on Edward and has shown to be an asset for the RF.
The Intrusion was years ago as everything else on The Crown. But it was very crass at best and could have smashed up the agreement made with the rest of the media and it's a good job there has been forgiveness. Considering the history just because it's in the past and he's put some effort in over the last few years doesn't mean the past didn't happen. And they don't come anywhere near the graft Princess Anne has put in for decades.

My DM read the News of the World religiously every Sunday and by large the headlines were always the Royal Family in some way.

The news and headlines were completely centred around setting them up.

Sophie with the fake sheik, Edward and his production company, Fergie sucking toes, Diana and Will Carling,

Every weekend. I bet the politicians of today would welcome back the media spotlight on the Royals.

The Queen Mother also died in 2002. I do find the portrayal of her quite ghostlike anyway.
And I'm sure Andrew was buddied up with Epstein at this time. I think that's when the photo was taken with Virginia Giuffre. Not long for the finale now!

The Queen Mother has been badly cast imo, in the later series. And so far there's been no attention given to the stories that she was only interested in the direct heirs, or her spending. Didn't she die in debt to Coutts? I don't believe she was the loveable old lady she's been presented as by the media over the years.

She's been appallingly cast! I have read she wasn't as careful with money as QE but I thought she had left money to her gcs and dgcs.

She died owing millions. The Queen paid off her debts. Apparently her yearly civil list payment of £643, 000 wasn’t enough for her.

I agree Marcia Warren is all kinds of wrong for the part and I hope she continues to be sidelined in the remaining episodes because I can’t take her seriously as the QM.

Can't be easy being Queen then being toppled by your daughter.
And it's not easy seeing the portrayal on The Crown when you have the boozy cheery cockney Spitting Image in your head.

I thought Victoria Hamilton was great in season 1 and 2, and even the 2/3 QM did a decent job. Marcia Warren doesn't look the part though, and she hasn't been given much to do either.