THE RECKONING - bbc 1 mon 9th - 9pm and Tue - TV PACE NO SPOILERS

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There will be four episodes in total, with the second airing at 9pm on Tuesday, October 10.

The third and fourth episodes are likely to air on the following Monday and Tuesday.

The Reckoning stars Steve Coogan as Savile and has spent a long time in production, with a planned release in 2022 reportedly being delayed due to the death of Queen Elizabeth II.

It will trace the life of Savile from a working-class background to one of the biggest stars in television and will also focus on his years of sexual abuse and the impact he had on his victims.

Saville (https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23729749.bbc-reveal-first-official-image-steve-coogan-jimmy-savile/)
died in October 2011 aged 84 having never been brought to justice for his crimes.

By not talking about it, you don’t get to the nub of that and if you don’t look at it you’re destined for those things to happen again.

The drama answers the question: how did he get away with it?

"The drama answers that question which is a very important one."
The series will also feature interviews with four of Savile's victims.

Johnnie Stewart was the producer of TOTP. I don't know if he always was. When the credits rolled they went slowly enough to read them. I think his was the last name and iirc there was a silhouette of a man with his jacket over his shoulder. I assumed that was him when I saw it. I wonder what he knew. Now the credits fly so fast I have to go on to I Player so that I can stop them and read who's playing him.

Seems madness you were told to protect yourself get n one did anything but knew he was a predator 🥲🥲

Have watched them all ( no spoilers from me ) but would be interested to hear from others in here that remember him from tv if you had creepy vibes from from him , or would have happily gone along to a t.v. show if you had been able ?
For me , I fell into the creepy , not sure about him vibes .

Used to watch top of the pops and Jim’ll fix it as a child. I didn’t get creepy vibes but then I was also quite oblivious to stuff. As an adult I just thought he was eccentric. Until that Johnny rotten interview.

I watched TOTP and some of Jim’ll fix it because it was aimed at my age group. As a young child I wasn’t a big fan of him. I hated all the catch phrase stuff and the way he made it all about him. I don’t think I found him creepy as such because at that age I had little concept of that sort of creepy but I really didn’t like him as a presenter.

As an older teenager I thought he was a relic of the past, desperate to stay in the public eye and I think that’s when I started getting a creepy vibe from him. He was a bit too hands on with people and he maintained contact too long. I wouldn’t have wanted to be on my own with him but I’d still never have guessed he was doing what he did.

That’s the worrying thing about Savile and the like. They fool kids and adults alike (well not all adults in this case) so any eccentricity is accepted and any creepy stuff is glossed over. For me as an adult, I was similar, I thought he was eccentric until the same Johnny Rotten interview. I rarely heard of him, didn’t watch or maybe I did, the last TOTP but I was in my 20s by then.

At the same age I watched Jim’ll Fix It but I was 9 at the time, Gary Glitter was supposed to sing with his band at a nightclub near where our school was. All us kids loved him. For some reason he couldn’t do the gig so we got the Baron Knights instead.

@Jennalong, I went when I was 9 to BBC studios with my class to see Jim’ll Fix It being filmed and to meet Savile with DB and DM as I’d raised £500 for PHAB by holding a jumble sale in our church hall.

He came across as not particularly friendly nor grateful for what I’d done and a bit egocentric when he chatted to me. He didn’t seem to like children which was at odds with his tv persona. But he didn’t give off creepy vibes. And I was with DM and the other kids with a teacher. I think we were probably just under his age range or there were too many people with us.

@LGI Your post is truly frightening. To think he had such access.
To think you young nurses were advised how to protect yourselves against him instead of Saville being investigated and convicted. 😮
At least there was an investigation- I know - too little, too late !!
That is why I can't understand why there was no investigation in Ireland.
Perhaps now, with this refocus on Saville, there might be.

I think that's Julian Rhind Tutt

People will.say they did
But I was a child when Jim I'll, fixit was in its hey day as I recall.I and most other children I knew absolutely loved it and saw him as some kind of zany eccentric ,with the benefit of hindsight ,its horrifying that he was allowed to.get anywhere near his victims .

As a child for some reason I really hated Jim’ll Fix It. I hated everything about it including the big medallion they got and the theme tune (apart from the chorus). I hated Savile’s Tarzan yodel. There was something fake about it all, I thought. Also for me at the time Savile didn’t come across as a loveable person like Rolf Harris. I thought Harris was fantastic and loved all his shows. His paintings and how he slowly revealed what they were held me in suspense. It was awful when they revealed the truth about him. I never would have believed it of him in a million years. Awful.

This begs the question of how many people were involved. Those men could not have got away with it if there wasn’t some kind of ring involving very important people.

As I was watching the Savile doc I found myself getting angry and thinking that women across the world should stage a mass protest on IWD to demand systemic change so that women can be free of these systemic failures, rapes and murders and in memory of those who have been its victims.

i have to be careful not to just view JS and his control at the LGI through a retrospective lens or with 30 years life experience and a career in safeguarding.
back then we were in the main 18 year old student nurses full of optimism and excitement.
we just accepted JS's omnipresence because all our elders and betters did. we looked up to them for guidance in so many ways, we took our steerage from them. but i was always in admiration of the staff who were vocal about how they didn't like him or want him near their patients.
people seemed to love him or loathe him, there was no in between position.
i do think (and it's touched on early in the drama) that it wasn't him as such that drew people to him but what he could get you access to or let you believe he could. so it could be your favourite pop star or senior politicians or royalty even. he gained status through association and i think senior LGI management gained kudos through in turn their association with him.
the amounts reportedly raised for charity were not as impressive as people thought. he deducted huge amounts for his expenses but it was hushed up because of the publicity the headline figures brought.
i also don't think many people realise outside of hospital circles at the time, how much power and influence the head porter of any hospital could have.
we were always taught to never piss off the porters as they could make life hard for you.
what we were told in the LGI report about the role of the head porter in facilitating JS's access is VERY different and much more worrying to how it's being shown in the drama and i'm trying to work out why.
i've also never understood exactly why he had very limited involvement at st james hospital in leeds. by being affectionately known as Jimmy's locally it would have suited his ego perfectly to have been involved and high profile there. St Jimmy and all that. it was a totally different management system there than the LGI at that time and I can only presume they were never taken in by him and kept him at arms length.

Absolutely chilling
I jyst can't get my head around how he wss allowed to.just wander around and do what he wanted
I used to be a mental health nurse ,and Broadmoor ,also allowed him full access it just beggars beleif.

The Margaret Thatcher actress in episode 3 looked like something out of Spitting Image!!

Was it because he was knew the head porter somehow? So JS saw that as an in?

And the man Eric that owned the Mecca clubs.. was that meant to be Eric Morley as I heard a reference to his Miss world success?

@Oriunda thank you, Ill look into that ( or more likely get my DS to sort it , Im old )!

He did know the Head Porter at the LGI but how is different in the drama to what we were told at the presentation of the LGI's retrospective report. The drama portrays him as a decent man duped into letting JS becoming a volunteer.
What we were told is that they had been Bevan Boys together and had shared interests in young girls etc. and had remained in touch. When the Head Porter was eventually in a position of authority and influence he was able to invite JS to the hospital and establish himself.
I can't state for certain which version of events is true but only can say what I heard from the investigating team.

Same. Just thought he was eccentric.

I was at Leeds university in the mid 80’s and didn’t hear rumours and I’ve asked my university friends and they don’t remember anything either.

I didn't find Savile creepy as a child and I wrote to Jim'll Fix It (didn't get chosen). Neither did I think he was wonderful; I didn't think that deeply about him or any other presenter. He was just one of the TV fixtures with an obviously deliberately 'zany' costume and reliable if slightly annoying catchphrases, the same way Basil Brush's laugh was predictable but a bit grating.

@LGI think the report version sounds more likely. Rather than happening upon a newspaper article and wheedling his way in.

I kept thinking how horrific it must’ve been for those girls to see him everywhere and be celebrated.

Same.

Exactly the same. Certainly never hero worshipped these presenters but they did appeal to me and DB as kids as they were zany/mad, with catchphrases etc.

I do think if we saw them in the street or met them like Savile’s victims did we’d have run a mile but then our parents were into stranger danger and avoid the strange man. I’m not saying that Savile or anyone else who abused children that they weren’t aware of dangerous men, because they must’ve been. I think Savile was strong and savvy enough especially seeing him in situations on this programme to overpower weaker, younger victims and also by locking doors and by placing himself in places where it’d have been easy to gain access to victims. Same as with his mate who sold ice cream.

Yes, I did have a look on I Player before I saw this reply from you. Thank you. I know his face as well as anything but of course I can't think what else I've seen him in so I'll have to google that now! The more you find out the more you have to look up. BBC 4 shows old TOTPs sometimes and I glance for 3 seconds before I hop further. I don't know whether JS and JS were still in them by 1984, for instance. They probably do show some from the 60s. If not, I could look on Youtube et cetera.

She was good though, wasn’t she? I forgot about the physical differences. The manner was convincing.

This is tv paced

E3 is next Monday

Can't we not talk about episodes. Or shown please !!

She was sister Hilda in call the midwife.