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THE RECKONING - bbc 1 mon 9th - 9pm and Tue - TV PACE NO SPOILERS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/10/2023 16:31

There will be four episodes in total, with the second airing at 9pm on Tuesday, October 10.

The third and fourth episodes are likely to air on the following Monday and Tuesday.

The Reckoning stars Steve Coogan as Savile and has spent a long time in production, with a planned release in 2022 reportedly being delayed due to the death of Queen Elizabeth II.

It will trace the life of Savile from a working-class background to one of the biggest stars in television and will also focus on his years of sexual abuse and the impact he had on his victims.

Saville (https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23729749.bbc-reveal-first-official-image-steve-coogan-jimmy-savile/)
died in October 2011 aged 84 having never been brought to justice for his crimes.

By not talking about it, you don’t get to the nub of that and if you don’t look at it you’re destined for those things to happen again.

The drama answers the question: how did he get away with it?

"The drama answers that question which is a very important one."
The series will also feature interviews with four of Savile's victims.

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LGI · 19/10/2023 23:18

i thinks it needs to be seen more globally than what each individual nurse/doctor/PAM/other NHS worker states.

i've said what my personal experience was. i remember it as clear as day.

but then there are others who saw nothing, heard nothing and still probably struggle with the revelations even after all these years.

the overwhelming evidence is that he committed heinous offences across the board.

the reckoning has triggered the fear i felt as a student nurse at the LGI. i didn't feel safe because of the warnings. should i have had those warnings and be scared but prepared? or should i have bot have had those warnings and been one of those thrown to the wolf?

i think the good and just staff at the time did what they could to keep people like me as safe as they could.

i don't know if it was this thread or another where someone referenced the lucy letby case. consultant paediatricians raised concerns, they whistleblew and yet were forced to apologise to her or risk GMC and disciplinary referrals.
that is in the recent past.
so JS being omnipresent in the time of strict hospital hierarchy, sexist stereotypes, the power of celebrity when the pool was small to draw upon is no shock as we look at it retrospectively.
i want to know why he was barred from children in need. i want to
know why ER knew but advocated for Childline. people who could influence change could have done something.

i was a tiny tiny cog in a massive wheel. a series of wheels that extended beyond the LGI but at that time that was my world and JS was a dark shadow over us all.

LGI · 19/10/2023 23:22

@cathyandclaire

hats off to that sister who told him to Foxtrot Oscar.

Those women are my heroes. They risked demotion, ridicule and ostracisation but they protected their patients.

i hope if i was faced with the same situation i'd do the same.

those ward sisters were amazing.

x2boys · 19/10/2023 23:29

LGI · 19/10/2023 23:18

i thinks it needs to be seen more globally than what each individual nurse/doctor/PAM/other NHS worker states.

i've said what my personal experience was. i remember it as clear as day.

but then there are others who saw nothing, heard nothing and still probably struggle with the revelations even after all these years.

the overwhelming evidence is that he committed heinous offences across the board.

the reckoning has triggered the fear i felt as a student nurse at the LGI. i didn't feel safe because of the warnings. should i have had those warnings and be scared but prepared? or should i have bot have had those warnings and been one of those thrown to the wolf?

i think the good and just staff at the time did what they could to keep people like me as safe as they could.

i don't know if it was this thread or another where someone referenced the lucy letby case. consultant paediatricians raised concerns, they whistleblew and yet were forced to apologise to her or risk GMC and disciplinary referrals.
that is in the recent past.
so JS being omnipresent in the time of strict hospital hierarchy, sexist stereotypes, the power of celebrity when the pool was small to draw upon is no shock as we look at it retrospectively.
i want to know why he was barred from children in need. i want to
know why ER knew but advocated for Childline. people who could influence change could have done something.

i was a tiny tiny cog in a massive wheel. a series of wheels that extended beyond the LGI but at that time that was my world and JS was a dark shadow over us all.

I find your insight fascinating
I guess a lot of people must have heard things but as a tiny cog as you say compared to the sainted Sir jim what could you do really ?
He was untouchable
I'm also interested in ER,s perspective considering it was her show that set up.child line .

x2boys · 19/10/2023 23:45

ageingdisgracefully · 18/10/2023 17:37

Is anyone reading the book? I am and halfway through.

I'm in my 60s and remember Savile pretty throughout his career although too old for Jim'll Fix It. I'm astonished to know that it had 15m viewers! I just thought he was an oddball amongst a whole load of other oddball presenter types. Nothing particularly sinister, and, in later years, rather sad.

Im.nearly 50 so.a target.audience for Jim,I'll fix it , I think.its obvious why it was popular
As a kid ,who wouldn't want their.wish granted ?
I remember JS as being larger than life with his jingeley Jangeley ,jewelrey,big cigar and catch phrases ,loads of presenters had their own catch phrases though
Tbh as a child I didn't think too deeply I just like the idea that someone's wish could be granted

Rummikub · 19/10/2023 23:57

And there wasn’t masses of tv choice anyway. I’m not surprised it was well watched.

x2boys · 20/10/2023 00:12

Rummikub · 19/10/2023 23:57

And there wasn’t masses of tv choice anyway. I’m not surprised it was well watched.

Exactly we had 3 ,4 at the most channels
As a child I remember watching a lot of drama series that were very adult in nature but it was the 70,sand80,s most families had only one, tv ,specific programs aimed at children were few and far between in the early 80,s at least

bronkie · 20/10/2023 09:32

Yup in the 1970s TV was very limited - Saturday nights were always the same : some kind of family show eg The Generation Game , Jim Will Fix it etc followed by the Duchess of Duke Street 😂

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Blondeshavemorefun · 20/10/2023 09:41

Im.nearly 50 so.a target.audience for Jim,I'll fix it , I think.its obvious why it was popular
As a kid ,who wouldn't want their.wish granted ?
I remember JS as being larger than life with his jingeley Jangeley ,jewelrey,big cigar and catch phrases ,loads of presenters had their own catch phrases though
Tbh as a child I didn't think too deeply I just like the idea that someone's wish could be granted

Same - well just 50.

It wasn't til older so more like
35/40 and releises when the truth came out

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GonnaGetGoingReturns · 20/10/2023 10:21

There was hardly any choice in 70s/80s for children to watch. Game shows mostly and probably slightly later but at same time too, things like The A Team, Dukes of Hazard, Doctor Who.

Savile was so easy to appeal to kids, a bit like Santa Claus, dishing out wishes which came true and gold medals.

greengreengrass25 · 20/10/2023 11:02

Don't forget Rolf on Saturday as an alternative 🤔

NigelHarmansNewWife · 22/10/2023 10:04

GonnaGet I was a child in the 70s and 80s - it was a golden age for children's TV. We played out lots of the time and there were children's programme on the main channels every afternoon after school, on Saturday mornings and afternoons and weekend early evening telly was family-friendly stuff. Now children's telly is largely on dedicated channels. That's the main difference.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 22/10/2023 12:24

NigelHarmansNewWife · 22/10/2023 10:04

GonnaGet I was a child in the 70s and 80s - it was a golden age for children's TV. We played out lots of the time and there were children's programme on the main channels every afternoon after school, on Saturday mornings and afternoons and weekend early evening telly was family-friendly stuff. Now children's telly is largely on dedicated channels. That's the main difference.

Actually, you’re right. Now it’s CBeebies or Amazon or Disney plus and other dedicated kids channels.

Very similar to you, rarely inside house, always outside. Recall seeing new family friends nearby in summer who were watching Why Don’t You and DB and me were a bit surprised as to why the kids weren’t outside as we were. Saturday and Sunday mornings kids tv, after school but 6pm kids stuff.

@greengreengrass25 Rolf Harris, shudder. I was one of those kids who actually didn’t like him and found him a bit sinister but watched along with DB.

Aquarius1234 · 24/10/2023 23:01

A prequel program would be good. Showing how and why he started assaulting girls/ boys/ adults. Etc

Lalgarh · 24/10/2023 23:13

No one would be around from that era so it would all be creative license. And I don't think anyone really wants any more of his likeness on screen

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