BOILING POINT. SUN bbc 9pm - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS

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New BBC drama series follows on from the hugely successful, multi award-winning feature film of the same name

I HAVNT SEEN THE FILM SO NOT SURE IF WILL WATCH AS MAY NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME

Eight months after her mentor Andy Jones (Stephen Graham) suffered a heart attack, head chef Carly (Vinette Robinson) is battling to forge a name for new Dalston restaurant Point North alongside her old kitchen crew. We follow the team as the stresses of keeping the restaurant running bear down on them amidst a hospitality industry in crisis. With the pressure to draw in new, hungry customers and the financial squeeze to keep the business profitable, the team must find a way to manage their complicated personal lives whilst creating quality food day in, day out.

We follow the team as the stresses of keeping the restaurant running bear down on them amidst a hospitality industry in crisis. With the pressure to draw in new, hungry customers and the financial squeeze to keep the business profitable, the team must find a way to manage their complicated personal lives whilst creating quality food day in, day out."

I thought he was just going to walk into the kitchen when he was looking through the restaurant at them all. I was also very surprised he just signed Beth's piece of paper without saying he needed it checking by a lawyer. He's been stitched up there if he hasn't taken advice.

To be honest, I am a bit underwhelmed. It might have helped if I had seen the film first, but it just feels that it's 10 episodes squashed into 4. Too much is happening at once, we haven't been given enough time to get to know the characters, so there's not enough build up. One character in last night's episode gave out a throwaway line about her past and suddenly something big is happening connected to that (trying to say this without spoilers, lol) and it takes away the believability.

Having so many BIG storylines in such a short run makes this feel a bit overproduced. The 'This is England' follow ups were much more cohesive and the characters were properly introduced to a potential new audience . I suspect it's a budget thing and it's a shame because the cast are great.

I think many binged

So prob on the other thread

It's a shame bbc iPlayer pure all up before shown on tv

Not sure why they do as obv must mess with their viewing figures

I think this is really good

Such emotions and pressure

Yes I hope Andy can help her out again

I find it odd that there was a short film and a long film and now this. I haven't got around to watching either of the films, but I wonder if this series is a try out for a longer one so we're getting a bit of a lot of stories and if it proved popular enough they intend to develop it even more.

The 2 films were very similar

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Ok. Here goes 😂😂

Both are

• 6mths before the film and same staff. It in Andy's kitchen and his business /head chef

One is 39m. Other think 1.5

Same story

He drinks too much - prob stress

And ends up having a heart attack collapsing on floor and credits roll

Then this series is 6mths later

She was Andy aka Head chef now was his second in command so she basically took on running a kitchen with helping hand of the investor bloke who wears glasses

@martinisforeveryone you might be right. I have noticed, though, that series seem to be getting shorter and shorter.

I did some checking so I'm up to speed. Better late than never 😂
Andy's restaurant was named Jones and Sons and he'd borrowed money from someone called Alastair. Beth was the Maitre d' and its her father who's now paid off Andy's debt and so wants his shares. Not too sure how all that could work in reality but hey ho. The restaurant is now called something else. Freeman who like lots of the brigade had moved with Carly and been her sous chef, had a big strop in one episode and walked out of Carly's place called Point North. He's now back at Andy's old restaurant.

Liam with the glasses is Carly's partner in Point North. What a liability he seems. First off he fails to secure further investment, second he cuts costs with the main supplier and causes kitchen chaos and now he wants them to change the menu and cater his brother's mate's wedding. This sounds like a real potential disaster, but Carly's new sous chef, Nick, reckons it's no problem and he'll do a menu and sort everything. What could possibly go wrong?

Emily's the pastry chef, Jamie is under her wing and working his way up to be a pastry chef. Bolton wanted the job of sous chef but got passed over, he's also known as 'Scouse' for obvious reasons. Dean is the front of house man.

Holly is job sharing as KP with Jake and she's also seeing Carly. Jake is almost on the breadline looking after his niece and went on the drugs drop with Carly for her 'Uncle Charlie' Wonder how they thought up that name?

And Johnny who was totally ineffective on his first shift and who nearly had the kitchen burnt down, turns out to be former army and as cool as a cucumber after he's pussyfooted around kicking in the toilet door. The blood bath and a potential death on the shift didn't seem to faze him at all. Hope he does well because he's also short of money and I think we saw his partner at home with fairly newborn twins.

There seem to be loads more in the cast, but those are the main characters.

Thanks @martinisforeveryone

I thought was his little sister. Not neice

So where is her mum/his sister

Yes Carly's investor partner is crap

Great synopsis @martinisforeveryone

Thanks for that @martinisforeveryone , easy to get confused with a large cast .

My pleasure.

@Blondeshavemorefun I may be wrong on the niece/sister thing but thought I remembered hearing something that disabused me of her being his sister and was surprised as I guess that's what you were meant to think.

Unless it does come back again I don't suppose it makes any difference either way. I have read something from the director saying he's open to a series two.

I thought it was his sister too.

I hope there will be a s2

4 episodes isn't enough

Holly is job sharing as KP with Jake and she's also seeing Carly. Jake is almost on the breadline looking after his niece and went on the drugs drop with Carly for her 'Uncle Charlie' Wonder how they thought up that name?

Jake was doing drugs & getting them from Holly wasn't he?

Then he got her the job at Carly's so that she could stop?

Season 2 definitely needed. The episodes are where you find out more about the character and want things to improve, get better. Loved that Jake did such a good job with the wedding cake and seemed to be happy to be back at work.

Least we still have e4

Hopefully Andy will help Carly

That's from the films is it? or did I miss it at the beginning of this? It is hard to keep track when there are so many characters with their own storylines.

Did Holly only become involved with Carly after she was employed at Point North then?

It might be from the films yes.

Or have I got totally confused?

Jake was getting drugs delivered to the back of the restaurant wasn't he?

Think there was one time he took the bins out & someone delivered something.

I think that was one of the films because it had been Andy telling him to take the bins out.

I assumed it had been Holly delivering as Jake knew all about "Uncle Charlie" & he had got her the job at Point North.

I don't think Holly worked at Andy's restaurant.

Maybe there was some blurb in the tv mags explaining it?

Didn't see anything at the beginning of the first ep!

Thanks 😀

I've checked and Jake does live with his sister, not his niece, so I don't know where I conjured that up from. When he's arguing with Holly about going with her on the drive and she's saying no, think about what would happen if you get caught, he says something about her earning money 'to give to my sister'

I’m quite underwhelmed by it although bizarrely finding it very frenetic to watch! Think it was a bit disingenuous of the BBC to heavily trail it with Stephen Graham in his chef’s whites knowing he’s a big pull for any series, when the reality has been little screen time for him. If you hadn’t seen the film you may be expecting Andy to be a main character.
Irritated by Jake’s sister’s friend’s mum (phew lots of apostrophes there) being surprised that the sister wasn’t going on the DofE trip - she could doubtless have put 2+2 together there.
Canadian chef is sleazy.
Poor Emily, Jamie and all the rest trying to hang on and make ends meet.

I’ve watched all the available episodes and I agree that Stephen Graham was the best thing about previous episodes

I just couldn’t take to Carly as much

I really like the front of house guy though. Great voice and really fit his lines

Poor Emily, Jamie and all the rest trying to hang on and make ends meet.

It's not a good ad for working in a restaurant is it?

Def not !!!

Funny @EasternStandard but the front of house guy character really annoys me. He allows too much messing to go on while Carly etc work their backs off in the kitchen.

Yes he should take in charge more

As I said when the waitress had to console irate people I thought that was his job

What is his job

To show to table and nothing else