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And Just Like That (The Anthony Appreciation Society)

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ReeseWitherfork · 20/07/2023 20:31

First thread….
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4819133-and-just-like-that

Spoilers etc.
Everyone posts when they’ve seen the episode so probably best to avoid the thread until you’re up to date.

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Late to this… persevered through it but god, it’s awful. Miranda is sooo annoying. All the woke stuff is just so trite. I am kind of interested in C...

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GellerYeller · 10/08/2023 08:48

And wasn’t Steve’s Ma played-brilliantly- by Ben Stiller’s mum?

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 10/08/2023 09:19

Oh she was brilliant. That scene where Miranda and Steve turn up at her cockroach infested apartment... you can see Mirandas brain whirring thinking 'god I'm going to have to say she can move in with us' So many of those scenes involving the three of them are incredibly tender.

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 09:27

Episode 9 is really good, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and there's some absolutely fabulous fashion and gorgeous NY real estate to ogle. Won't post any spoilers until other posters have watched, but I am going to take bragging rights over a certain plot twist!

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 09:28

@Ridemeginger plot twist??

I must have missed it 🤣😂

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 09:30

SPOILER

Well not twist exactly, plot line. Think jizz and teens.

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 09:38

EPISODE 9 REVIEW - SPOILERS AHEAD

What I loved:
The fashion. Especially Carrie’s emerald dress and shoes and Miranda’s power suit.
This episode felt very SATC.
Cathy calling Carrie out. Though I felt they made her very dowdy/hippy in contrast to Sparkly Carrie
Aidan’s son hating Carrie - that’s exactly what would happen too. Aidan is very insensitive to make him say hi on FaceTime and Carrie was every bit as awkward as I expected her to be.
Anthony behaving insecurely. It’s nice to see a vulnerable side to him.
Miranda and Charlotte trying to figure out if Lily and Brady are shagging
KITTENS

What I didn’t love:
Harry and Herbert’s regressing to 1950’s sexist husbands moaning about their wives working. Does Harry really need Charlotte at home?!
Aidan. What an annoying man, he’s like a hyperactive puppy, fawning all over the director. And Carrie simpering over him is irritating. Very childish that he still won’t go to her apartment. I actually find Che less irritating
Nya’s loud sex. also what is the point of her being in the show now?! Felt bad for her when she found out her husband was having a baby though
Lisa’s revelation. Isn’t she in her 50’s?!
Carrie suddenly deciding she had a wonderful marriage once again.
Charlotte’s RUDE RUDE RUDE children. Imagine your parents throwing a posh party for a friend’s election campaign and you go out and get takeaway pizza because you’re not into the food. SO rude!
The jumping timeline. Somehow Brady has gone back to being 18, despite the fact there’s been enough time between now and the last season (when he left high school) for Nya’s husband to split up with Nya, the meet and impregnate someone to the point they have a big bump

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 09:39

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 09:30

SPOILER

Well not twist exactly, plot line. Think jizz and teens.

Ah I see! Yes you did I believe! Brava 👏🏼

Netaporter · 10/08/2023 10:02

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 08:29

TRIGGER WARNING FOR THIS EPISODE

So this week rather than skiving off work I thought I’d watch the new episode the moment it landed.

Dear reader…the Aidan Y-front have returned

Im so sorry to have to be the one to break it to you all.

Do not eat breakfast whilst watching this episode.

OMG this. 😂😂😂

late watching today so here are my thoughts:

Loved
-The apartment . Was getting Big’s apartment purchase vibes.
— Carrie’s puffball outfit to get coffee
-Carrie’s slinky jumpsuit for the party
-Seema’s outfits
-Charlotte’s work pinstripe
-The pet portrait. I have one of these (my dog is dressed as an Army General) 😂
-Miranda had at least good two outfits before the awful patchwork suede number appeared
-Nya’s punch in the gut, very truthful watching her visceral reaction
-LTW’s outfits
-‘I’m not tired, I’m pregnant’. 👏👏
-The truth about marriage in that most blokes love the extra income and boasting rights about their wives fancy jobs until they now have to think about dinner
-Anthony finding love as Tony
-Kittens.obvs. Although I don’t actually love cats.

Disliked
-Y Fronts. We get it, JC has lost ‘40 pounds’ so wants to show off his bod. Just no thank you.
-Another non-binary/transgender character shoe-horned in - we now have Che, the Vet and now ‘Toby’.
-Che manipulating Carrie into getting a pet
-Miranda’s breathtaking hypocrisy regarding noisy sex
-Aya’s noisy sex. Seriously, who is that loud with someone in the room next door?
-Anthony having sex in the kids room. Just no.
-Harry not interested in the fact his daughter is having sex with a Senior. Really?
-Big suddenly the life of her life again.

I predict Carrie lets her apartment to Lisette. We’ll be seeing it for s3. Yay!

All in all, a very good episode I thought.

8misskitty8 · 10/08/2023 10:52

The children age thing is just sloppy writing and Is now bugging me.
It was ok in season 1 to have missed out a couple of years but to then bring Aidens children this season and make them older is just crazy.
Brady is older that Aidens eldest son so should be at least 20 like he is, if not older.
At the end of SATC Charlotte had a photo of Lily and she was at least a couple of months old then so I think there should be just under 2 years between them at the most. So she should be around 18.

The Y-fronts appear every ad break !

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 11:20

I thought Carrie's fashion in this episode was off the scale lovely. I am coveting that green dress and bomber jacket combo so hard! I liked Aiden's ex's kimono too, with the magenta and green that matched Carrie's dress. But I agree, they made her hair and makeup dowdy and mumsy, which would seem out of character for a designer. Or perhaps they were going for bohemian, and missed the mark. I'm very glad she told Carrie not to monetise her children!

I can't agree more that I do not want to see Aiden in his tighty whities. And his straight line mouth is still giving me the major icks. However, I liked his and Carrie's scene in the new apartment, I thought it was really mature and touching to acknowledge. that they have hurt each other and might again. However, wrt Carrie's scene with the gallery chap and talking about her wonderful marriage to Big - I can't decide whether that was her acknowledgement and closure on her marriage (rather than the rewriting of history and calling it a mistake) and readiness to move on; or whether this is a sign that Big will continue to hang over her and Aiden going forward.

Their new apartment is my New York dream property. But Carrie will never sell her old apartment - agree the girl downstairs will probably move in as a convenient excuse for Carrie not to let it go.

Thought Seema's scenes were so reminiscent of a Samantha scenario - didn't Sam shag a real estate agent during an apartment viewing once? Anyway, love her and her clothes. I hope this director guy doesn't end in disaster. I don't think there's an Seema/Aiden plot. I think her saying she loved him already in the previous episode was her giving her "approval" to Carrie for the new relationship, and forgiveness for Carrie forgetting about the Hamptons plan.

I don't believe for a minute that Charlotte would be that cool and collected about Lily shagging Brady. Or anyone else, for that matter. IME, motherhood turns you into a hypocrite - I don't want my daughter (or son) getting involved in any of the risky shit I did, I think that's a natural instinct. Charlotte being cool mom just feels out of character.

I quite liked the role reversals of Harry and Herbert being the party planners and fretting over the small details, and Charlotte and Lisa being the somewhat mentally (as well as physically) absent parters not taking it seriously or taking it for granted. Sauce for the goose there chaps. I'm pretty sure, had Charlotte been the party planner, she would not have been so sanguine about the teens getting a pizza.

Anthony - love him so much, and hope he finds happiness with this hot fella. But ick at shagging in a kids' room.

Poor Nya. Will someone give this character a break, writing room? I think they have given her these scenes of wild sexual abandonment (and uncharacteristic throwing caution to the wind) only to dump her with the shock of her ex's impending fatherhood, as a deliberate way to make an impact. She's still a largely underdeveloped character without much of a story arc or much to hold on to or care about as a viewer. I imagine her ex was already shagging that back up singer woman before he formally broke up with Nya.

Is Lisa also supposed to be mid-late 50s. Pregnancy. Really? Gorgeous wardrobe though. I am warming to her and Herbert, they are very cute, and I quite enjoy their loving bickering.

Miranda just continues to be annoying and hypocritical (moaning about loud sex and being annoyed when Nya is doing her a favour letting her stay there). I quite liked her in the masculine suit she wore to look at Carrie's new apartment. Very reminiscent of early SATC Miranda. WTF was Charlotte wearing, though, with those gigantic puff sleeves were horrifying!

I do not give 2 fucks about Che, but I liked the kittens. Gawd help us all if we have to watch more of her stand up going forward. The writers have really completely softened this character, haven't they. Nothing like the Che we originally met. I'm feeling manipulated. I WILL NOT LIKE YOU, CHE!

CheeseMuffin · 10/08/2023 11:30

Aidan's tighty-whities😱 Reader, I screamed...

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 11:32

Yes the desperation for us to like Che is so evident - “I know let’s have her hold some kittens! No one can resist kittens!”

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 11:42

CheeseMuffin · 10/08/2023 11:30

Aidan's tighty-whities😱 Reader, I screamed...

They need one of those pre programme warnings: The following episode contains scenes of a distressing nature, that some viewers may find disturbing.

WhyDoesItAlways · 10/08/2023 11:42

I thought the room Miranda was staying in was supposed to be a soundproof music room. Surely Nya's murderous orgasms would be at least muffled?

I hate seeing stories on MN about step kids being treated like second class citizens but even I raised an eyebrow about Carrie selling her apartment and dropping likely millions of dollars on a new apartment for her ready made family that she never wanted and has only met once. Funny how Aiden won't step foot in her apartment but is more than happy to move into one bought with her dead husband's money.

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 11:52

To be fair, I think Aiden's inability (childish though it is) to go into Carrie's apartment, is about his and Carrie's relationship and her rejection of him second time round, not the Big affair (even if his pushing marriage, brought on by his insecurity over the affair, was the underlying cause of the break up). I think he is respectful of her marriage to Big and what it meant to her, he said as much when they met in episode 7, and that he'd read her book and felt for her. He's also been there with his ex, they must also have mixed up finances. So I doubt he is threatened by her Big money.

Lottapianos · 10/08/2023 11:58

'I thought Carrie's fashion in this episode was off the scale lovely'

Totally agree. The fashion in episode 9 was even better than usual

Dear god, the tighty whities 🤦🏻‍♂️ just no need. He was totally sucking in all through that scene as well 😂

Just caught up with episode 8 today too. Absolutely LOVED the scene with Seema and Carrie in the rain with wet hair. I really felt for both of them. Such a difficult conversation to have. SATC has always handled complex friendship stuff really well and I thought that was a really well written and performed scene

Was also shouting 'YES!!!' at the screen during 'was Big just a big mistake?'. Yes Carrie, yes he was. He was truly awful

WTF at Lisa's news 🤔

Are Carrie and Aiden heading for disaster next week???

NeedToThinkOfOne · 10/08/2023 13:32

WeetabixTowels · 10/08/2023 08:29

TRIGGER WARNING FOR THIS EPISODE

So this week rather than skiving off work I thought I’d watch the new episode the moment it landed.

Dear reader…the Aidan Y-front have returned

Im so sorry to have to be the one to break it to you all.

Do not eat breakfast whilst watching this episode.

I didn’t look at this thread before watching whilst having my lunch. Reader, there’s a very unreasonable amount of Aidan in pants this episode. Padding around in pants with a spray tan and his spray on abs, it really did nothing for me.

tribpot · 10/08/2023 14:05

The painted on abs were particularly prominent in this episode. Why does anyone need to see that?

Very annoyed by the kitten storyline as a cat lover. Carrie is not and never will be a cat person. She's never managed to keep anything alive.

Re: Toby, this is a girl's name in the US as well as a boy's name, so we must wait for news of Toby's pronouns (or just ignore her/him/them as a character shoehorned in during ep 9 of 11.

Overall I enjoyed this episode and it went by very quickly. Still too many storylines for any of them to get a fair airing. Poor Nya, there must be some availability issue that means nearly all her scenes are shot without anyone else from the main cast. They really do need to do better by her.

Glad in one way that LTW is pregnant, I had a terrible feeling they were going to inflict an illness on her.

Once again a pivotal scene happens off camera, like when Miranda followed Che to .. Pittsburgh?? We don't get to see Carrie's reaction to Aiden's 'not in Norfolk' farmhouse or see his kids, is that just to save money? Seems very odd.

I see we're just going to pretend the 'was Big a big mistake?' thing didn't happen. Surely Miranda would want to talk that over with Charlotte.

Skinnermarink · 10/08/2023 14:08

Yes that’s true, we had some LA shots but that was short lived. Have we been anywhere else this season yet at all? I feel cheated out of the farmhouse footage.

8misskitty8 · 10/08/2023 14:11

The Nya actress was filming another show at the same time as AJLT is that’s why her screen time is less.
Originally she and Miranda were going to be a couple in series 1 but Cynthia Nixon rejected the storyline. She wanted Miranda to get together with someone who was already experienced.

8misskitty8 · 10/08/2023 14:56

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 11:20

I thought Carrie's fashion in this episode was off the scale lovely. I am coveting that green dress and bomber jacket combo so hard! I liked Aiden's ex's kimono too, with the magenta and green that matched Carrie's dress. But I agree, they made her hair and makeup dowdy and mumsy, which would seem out of character for a designer. Or perhaps they were going for bohemian, and missed the mark. I'm very glad she told Carrie not to monetise her children!

I can't agree more that I do not want to see Aiden in his tighty whities. And his straight line mouth is still giving me the major icks. However, I liked his and Carrie's scene in the new apartment, I thought it was really mature and touching to acknowledge. that they have hurt each other and might again. However, wrt Carrie's scene with the gallery chap and talking about her wonderful marriage to Big - I can't decide whether that was her acknowledgement and closure on her marriage (rather than the rewriting of history and calling it a mistake) and readiness to move on; or whether this is a sign that Big will continue to hang over her and Aiden going forward.

Their new apartment is my New York dream property. But Carrie will never sell her old apartment - agree the girl downstairs will probably move in as a convenient excuse for Carrie not to let it go.

Thought Seema's scenes were so reminiscent of a Samantha scenario - didn't Sam shag a real estate agent during an apartment viewing once? Anyway, love her and her clothes. I hope this director guy doesn't end in disaster. I don't think there's an Seema/Aiden plot. I think her saying she loved him already in the previous episode was her giving her "approval" to Carrie for the new relationship, and forgiveness for Carrie forgetting about the Hamptons plan.

I don't believe for a minute that Charlotte would be that cool and collected about Lily shagging Brady. Or anyone else, for that matter. IME, motherhood turns you into a hypocrite - I don't want my daughter (or son) getting involved in any of the risky shit I did, I think that's a natural instinct. Charlotte being cool mom just feels out of character.

I quite liked the role reversals of Harry and Herbert being the party planners and fretting over the small details, and Charlotte and Lisa being the somewhat mentally (as well as physically) absent parters not taking it seriously or taking it for granted. Sauce for the goose there chaps. I'm pretty sure, had Charlotte been the party planner, she would not have been so sanguine about the teens getting a pizza.

Anthony - love him so much, and hope he finds happiness with this hot fella. But ick at shagging in a kids' room.

Poor Nya. Will someone give this character a break, writing room? I think they have given her these scenes of wild sexual abandonment (and uncharacteristic throwing caution to the wind) only to dump her with the shock of her ex's impending fatherhood, as a deliberate way to make an impact. She's still a largely underdeveloped character without much of a story arc or much to hold on to or care about as a viewer. I imagine her ex was already shagging that back up singer woman before he formally broke up with Nya.

Is Lisa also supposed to be mid-late 50s. Pregnancy. Really? Gorgeous wardrobe though. I am warming to her and Herbert, they are very cute, and I quite enjoy their loving bickering.

Miranda just continues to be annoying and hypocritical (moaning about loud sex and being annoyed when Nya is doing her a favour letting her stay there). I quite liked her in the masculine suit she wore to look at Carrie's new apartment. Very reminiscent of early SATC Miranda. WTF was Charlotte wearing, though, with those gigantic puff sleeves were horrifying!

I do not give 2 fucks about Che, but I liked the kittens. Gawd help us all if we have to watch more of her stand up going forward. The writers have really completely softened this character, haven't they. Nothing like the Che we originally met. I'm feeling manipulated. I WILL NOT LIKE YOU, CHE!

The actress who plays Lisa is 52 in real life.

Ilovealido · 10/08/2023 15:19

Really enjoyed this episode. I’m less sure now that the Carrie & Aidan relationship is going to end in tears, maybe their relationship will be a big feature of season 3? I seem to be one of few people that really likes Nya although agree she needs more airtime & character development. That’s interesting that she was due to be love interest for Miranda.
I actually really hate surprise pregnancy storylines, I feel like it’s been done to death & is just lazy. Also it doesn’t make sense considering the age of Nicole Ari Parker in real life. Or maybe they are expecting us to believe she’s younger- a natural pregnancy late 40’s isn’t unheard of. I just feel like there are other ways to develop a character other than the surprise pregnancy storyline.

Lottapianos · 10/08/2023 15:42

'I just feel like there are other ways to develop a character other than the surprise pregnancy storyline.'

Totally agree. She's a great character and they could do so much more with her. Same for Nya

Ridemeginger · 10/08/2023 15:58

I also think it's a bit tired for the writers to give Lisa a pregnancy story, when she already has an interesting story about getting her career back on track post motherhood duties. They haven't developed that story much at all. I would say they are going to give her a difficult decision about whether to continue with the pregnancy arc (a la Miranda), but she seemed happy, as did Herbert. So they may give her a miscarriage arc (a la Charlotte), or a conflict with an envious friend (Nya) over the pregnancy arc (a la Charlotte and Miranda). I'm the same age as the actress, and was an older mother first time, but the thought of pregnancy now - hell no, not for all the shoes in Jimmy Choo!

Nya's shock was really well acted. I hope they give her a good chunk of the next episode to deal with this news from her horrible ex.

The writers clearly don't really know what to do with or how to develop the characters of Che, Nya and Lisa outside of their friendship interactions with the main 3 characters. Only Seema seems to have succeeded as a character in her own right - and that's only because she's the Samantha stand in.

NeedToThinkOfOne · 10/08/2023 16:02

Suprise pregnancy off the back of her husband declaring his political intentions, all seems a bit contrived to me. Thank goodness they didn’t entirely give her a silly lady brain when he was huffing and puffing about his dinner…”you know where the cereal is” If the pregnancy continues then all bets on for a giving up career or husband dropping his ambitions to take care of baby, end of season dilemma. Which narrative works best?

Still no chemistry between Carrie and Aidan- even as they kissed like teenagers after their serious chat in the new apartment that is ok to go in despite being purchased with Big widow fund place. I’m still predicting that Aidan will prioritise his boys and make a choice. It will be him that ends it with Carrie. There was a quick nod to Carrie really not being that interested in teenage turmoils, with the Brady and Lily situation. So there is much work to be done on her side to prove she can be a great stepmom.

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