Anyone watched the shamina begum documentary on bbc 2 ?

[hellobethyname]

Just watching it now

I've changed my mind . She was a child , groomed , no idea what she was getting into .

I don't think we should demonise one child forever . There are much bigger threats out there that people don't even realise.

I wouldn’t mind her coming back to the UK but I’d expect her to serve a lengthy prison service rather than being welcomed back into the bosom of her family.

Also I think it is a tragedy that her last baby died. A baby that should have received better support from our country.

Begum obviously has very good PRs working for her, because this media campaign to position her as a victim, rather than a dangerous terrorist, has been going on for several years now. The BBC appears particularly keen on rehabilitating her, unsurprisingly 🙄. What I would like to know is who is funding her PR campaign, and why?

She was a child and if she was white I’d say nobody would say leave her stateless. She has watched 3 babies die.

what if it was your 15 year old child?

Is it the same if they are groomed by paedophiles - would you say it is the child’s fault?

Seriously there are far more dangerous terrorists living here among all of you than you realise !

And paedophiles living in bail hostels opposite schools .

To demonise one woman who was a child with absolutely zero idea what she was getting into is beyond ludicrous.

The only difference this makes to the public is they know her face and her name .

I wish to god I could tell you what I know about what people live in every city and every town but you're oblivious so you think you're safe .

You probably are . But there are people who lose way more of a threat to you , your kids and your families than this lass ever would if allowed back to the uk .

Even if you don’t view her as a victim surely she should still be returned home to face trial and so we, the country she came from, can manage her risk appropriately.

Such double standards.

She’s a terrorist, wasn’t a victim of grooming, and should pay the price.
Yet the other more recent white right wing child “terrorist” (forgot their name) was groomed.

She's the poster girl for isis so she's an easy target .

Forget common sense .

hellobethyname

I wish to god I could tell you what I know about what people live in every city and every town but you're oblivious so you think you're safe

If you knew where I lived you wouldn't spout such drivel.

But if you want to believe shamina's PR team then more fool you.

I don’t think she’s one or the other to be honest. More like a mix of the two.

Recommend the Netflix series “Caliphate”- a Swedish series telling the story of teenage Muslim girls becoming radicalised/groomed and travelling to join ISIS, loosely inspired by the Bethnal Green trio’s story.

Appreciate you can't tell us much as obvs confidential, but out if interest what advice would you give those of us with DC to keep them / us safe with these dodgy types log g amongst us...scary...

This. I really can’t see that it boils down to anything other than this.

There is certain ignorance we live in not knowing that there might be dangerous ppl in the vicinity of where we live.

If we did know it might change people views etc.

Here we have a person who openly dexlares we are the enemy and has no remorse. Why would you openly allow a high risk person back in. If you knew that about all these people yo umention no doubt communities would not be happy to have them living nearby.

If you could vote you lived in your town would u be happy to accept all these other dangerous ppl ....of course not.

If Begum was allowed to return to the U.K., hands up who would volunteer to take their children & all share a tube train carriage with her.

Anyone?

Thought not… 🙄

She wouldn’t be on a tube would she? She would be in prison.

If course it would change peoples views if they knew who lived where and that's why it's not public.

But what I'm saying is there are countless others more of a threat who are managed here in the uk - to demonise one woman who was a child when recruited makes no sense what so ever .
She could be managed here . Like many others who are successfully and without incident .

This is simply right wing propaganda .

This .

So let her come back and be managed here . Then the attention wouldn't be justified.

I'd just say watch the documentary.

Are you for real . Save your empathy for the victims of their ' cause '.
15 is not far off an adult . She knew what she was getting into and made the decision to go.

At least one baby definitely existed. The last one.

I've not kept up with all the details - why does the UK take care of babies born abroad to non UK parents?

Which my taxes would be paying for. Then, when she was released, I would be paying for her accommodation, her benefits & entitlements.

No, thank you, she can stay where she is.

Why should the Syrians pay for her? A less wealthy country, ravaged by war?

Your taxes pay for all the prisoners housed - the rapists , the murderers , the sex offenders, the child killers .
That's just a fact of life . She is no different.
Many prisoners are victims of their circumstances. Your taxes pay . And mine .
What do we do with them ?

Rehabilitation is possible but I'd prefer the Nordic approach to
Prisoner rehabilitation which actually works .

Our lock em up and throw away the key approach doesn't .

Our problem solving abilities on these issues are woefully inadequate .