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HAPPY VALLEY S3 - Sundays 9pm bbc 1 - TV PACE NO SPOILERS - thread 4

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Blondeshavemorefun · 26/01/2023 13:46

As thread 3 is almost full at 984 thought would do a new thread as didn't see one

hope that’s ok

will link the other 3 below

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Sunshinegirl82 · 29/01/2023 22:24

Catherine is just so broken. So much trauma, feeling betrayed, feeling like the only one who really gets it, everyone else just fucks things up. She's got nothing left, I'm not surprised she's not being very likeable to be honest.

70sShmeventies · 29/01/2023 22:24

And yeah, Catherine is extremely hard work in this series. I think she’s just sick of it all and pushing people away.

Netaporter · 29/01/2023 22:24

What an episode! So much to unpack.

questions for me:

Where is Alison?
Why has PE teacher been released? Surely enough evidence to hold him?
Where was Joyce this episode?

Faisals wife is suspicious for sure.
Poor Ryan after Anne’s tirade.
Catherine’s tear speaking to Claire 😢

LindorDoubleChoc · 29/01/2023 22:28

Meh. The only scenes I thought rang true tonight were Darius and TLR in the car and Ryan and TLR at the end. The rest was just exposition/filler and very rushed as feared. I also lost faith in the accuracy of the police procedurals. Why no organised protection for Catherine and Ryan? And surely even TLR isn't dumb enough to think he and a 16 year old boy fitting Ryan's description will be able to get on a flight to Malaga next Monday.

Poke · 29/01/2023 22:29

Poor poor Ryan. 😭 The only person that showed him any love or care was TLR.

My heart goes out to him. He might go off with him. Maybe.

EsmaCannonball · 29/01/2023 22:29

Next week needs to be two hours long, never mind an extra ten minutes.

I now think Ryan is contemplating killing TLR. That would be tragic. Sweet, confused Ryan, on the cusp of adulthood, ruining his life to get revenge for how it began. It would really show how TLR's actions, but also the bitterness of vengeful feelings, have poisoned Catherine's family. I'm starting to feel that perhaps it would have been better for Ryan if he had been adopted as a baby, instead of being raised among all the damage and resentment and secrecy. Or at least it would have been healthier had Catherine moved away with him to somewhere not connected to all the misery.

Every word Ann said was right, but it was still hard to see Ryan learning all those truths. I actually thought Ryan's reasoning for visiting TLR was justifiable.

Why is no-one worried about the safety of Ann and Daniel? Why aren't they worried that TLR will probably know where Nev lives? Richard leaving Ryan at his house and Catherine not immediately fetching Ryan the second he was back from Leeds felt like a repeat of the unlikely scenario of allowing him to cycle home alone from school in the first series. Nobody was behaving like a psycho was on the loose. There were more solicitous of Neil's safety than Ryan's.

Catherine's righteous anger is tipping over into wallowing in grievance at the moment. I have a feeling she might come to regret it.

Didn't feel likely that Darius was doing his own grunt work. That character isn't working.

I loved the PE teacher storyline to begin with, but it now feels like there isn't the space to give it the development it needs and that it should have been cleverly integrated into the TLR stuff. I feel a bit short-changed.

Busting TLR out just to have him sitting around a dingy room seems a bit of a waste of an episode.

Snugglepiggy · 29/01/2023 22:30

I think Catherine's absolutely burnt out with everything.So close to retirement and now TLR on the loose again.I think Ryan will end up saving her or coming close to losing her and she can finally let go and tell him she loves him.
Harsh as Annes words were,and after Daniels chat in the car I think the penny dropped about TLR.And I think he knows his granny loves him.Didn't stop me shouting at tv telling Catherine to tell him though !

SausageInCider · 29/01/2023 22:31

I can understand why Catherine acts the way she does but it’s not carte blanche to treat everyone in her life like shit, forcing them to walk on eggshells around her, giving people the silent treatment, and then when she does speak to them she’s absolutely vile. When your confused, messed up 16 year old grandson desperate for any sort of indication she loves him, doesn’t regret him, has any scrap of love at all. When he says granny I love you fucking say it back! He isn’t being drawn towards TLR as much as he’s being pushed towards him.

AuroraCake · 29/01/2023 22:31

Poke · 29/01/2023 22:29

Poor poor Ryan. 😭 The only person that showed him any love or care was TLR.

My heart goes out to him. He might go off with him. Maybe.

Ah that’s not true. Claire, Richard, Neil, his uncle. Ann was a bitch fair but she told him thinks he needed to know. They all love Ryan despite the trauma of his start in life.

AIBUYESYES · 29/01/2023 22:32

I couldn't hear/ understand what SL was saying in the first 10 minutes. Mumble, mumble, talking too fast.

DH and I looked at each other and said 'What did she say?'

PrincessScarlett · 29/01/2023 22:32

Ann was bloody brutal tonight. But I totally get why she did it. What she went through in series one was horrific. And for Ryan to want to play happy families with TLR is absolutely inconceivable to her.

I actually think Catherine not saying she loved him and TLR saying it is key based on Ann's tirade. Ann said TLR cannot love despite saying he loved Becky. Catherine's actions in keeping Ryan when everyone else said to get rid prove her love for Ryan. She lost her husband over it, her relationship with her son was damaged. Catherine sacrificed a lot in keeping Ryan. Deep down Ryan knows this, particularly now he has been told the truth about TLR.

I think Ryan is going to give TLR up to the police. I also think that Catherine may end up saving TLR from Darius and she may kill Darius.

Inhibitor · 29/01/2023 22:32

colouringindoors · 29/01/2023 21:20

that's the place a mumsnetter mentioned!

Was that my description of the ‘dead end road’ that’s not actually a dead end? If so, I’m properly impressed that you worked it out from my brief description!

DoraSpenlow · 29/01/2023 22:36

LindorDoubleChoc · 29/01/2023 22:28

Meh. The only scenes I thought rang true tonight were Darius and TLR in the car and Ryan and TLR at the end. The rest was just exposition/filler and very rushed as feared. I also lost faith in the accuracy of the police procedurals. Why no organised protection for Catherine and Ryan? And surely even TLR isn't dumb enough to think he and a 16 year old boy fitting Ryan's description will be able to get on a flight to Malaga next Monday.

I think they are supposed to go to Europe in the back of the van via Dover and then get a flight to Malaga from there (can't remember which airport they said).

FitYeDaeinYeMadRadge · 29/01/2023 22:36

I think Catherine has been so broken by her daughter dying, that whenever people let her down by their thoughtless actions she just has a safety cut out bitch switch to stop her getting even more hurt.

except it doesn’t work. She’s just coping the best she can. She must feel like everyone’s gone behind her back. I get it. I know she should have said she loved him but she is in a whole world of hurt and can’t see properly.

Barkin2themoon · 29/01/2023 22:36

Think Catherine will lose her life proving how much she loves her grandson

BornBlonde · 29/01/2023 22:37

Acting continued to be phenomenal tonight! No idea how they will wrap it all up in one episode next week

I think Ryan will try to double cross TLR by pretending he will run away with him

UrsulaPandress · 29/01/2023 22:38

Poor Catherine. She’s even lost the support of this thread.

Poke · 29/01/2023 22:39

The look between Poppy and neckbeard. 😮 She’s going to get him sent down (even if not for murder.)

Something is there. Poppy knows something extra.

Sunshinegirl82 · 29/01/2023 22:40

I'm keeping the faith that Catherine and Ryan will triumph!

Testina · 29/01/2023 22:40

@Netaporter “Faisals wife is suspicious for sure.”

I don’t think so. I think she was just supposed to be like the daughters - super nosy and just wanting in on the action, being able to say, “Faisal gave a statement, he saw him that day all wound up and angry.” Nothing more than that. I think the purpose of that bit is either to badger him into a statement, or backdrop for her wandering out to say, “my husband said…” which gets him into a conversation with the police in which his pharmacist job comes up.

FlyRobinFly · 29/01/2023 22:41

Yes what is going on with Poppy??? You’d expect the older one to be more observant but it’s clearly Poppy. Very odd.

FlyRobinFly · 29/01/2023 22:42

I’m thinking all sorts of weird theories now! Is Poppy TLR’s? Neckbeard knows Poppy is TLR’s hence the bullying of Ryan. Absolutely ridiculous theory but I’m racking my brains!!!

TrentCrimm · 29/01/2023 22:43

I think Catherine's just on her last fucking nerve.

Losing her daughter in sickening circumstances, losing her husband and almost losing her son in trying to protect her grandson in the fallout.

Losing her CID career and going back to street coppering, getting her arsed kicked on the regular. Providing for a sweet, but ultimately feckless sister and subsequent partner, and then finding out that they, and the grandson have been colluding behind her back to visit the man responsible for the death of her daughter, the murder of her colleague, and almost killing her. 'Blithely' as she described it.

She's also days away from retiring from a long and respected, distinguished career in the force, and despite not being taken seriously when reporting concerns about Joanna, and the possibility of TLR escaping, STILL has to have a wrist slap about being slightly involved in a piss take about alien life forms.

In a nutshell, she's pissed off and I don't blame her.

Osteospermum · 29/01/2023 22:43

@UrsulaPandress so true 😔

Testina · 29/01/2023 22:47

I think Poppy will give away the link between her mum and Faisal. Not anything from the time of the murder - just something she’s seen in the past between them, that will link them.

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